Re: 美國國父不是華盛頓

[DonaldDuck (Myrmidons)]

※ 引述《GOJAM (LIFE)》之銘言：
: '國父'一詞是那些中國人的發明
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http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Father%20of%20Nation

這個網站有列出不少 創國元老/國父(複數或者單數)

也許可以參考一下

不過有些可能會有爭議 像是德國的Bismarck...



  Country       National father(s)


Afghanistan
Mohammed Zahir Shah

Albania
Ismail Qemali, Skenderbeg

Algeria
Abdel Kadir

Andorra
Carlemany

Angola
Agostinho Neto

Antigua and Barbuda
Vere Cornwall Bird

Argentina
Jose de San Martin

Aruba
Betico Croes

Australia
Sir Henry Parkes

The Bahamas
Sir Lynden Pindling

Bangladesh
Sheikh Mujibur Rahman

Barbados
Sir Grantley Adams, Errol Barrow

Belize
George Price

Bolivia
Simon Bolivar

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Alija Izetbegovic

Burma
U Aung San

Burundi
Prince Louis Rwagasore

Cambodia
Norodom Sihanouk

Cameroon
Ahmadou Ahidjo

Canada
Sir John A. Macdonald

Cape Verde
Amilcar Cabral

Central African Republic
Barthelemy Boganda

Chile
Bernardo O'Higgins, Jose Miguel Carrera

Republic of China
Sun Yat-sen

Colombia
Simon Bolivar

Congo
Patrice Lumumba

Cote d'Ivoire
Felix Houphouet-Boigny

Croatia
Ante Star?evi?

Cuba
Jose Marti

Cyprus
Archbishop Makarios

Czechoslovakia
Toma? Masaryk

Czech Republic
Franti?ek Palacky

Dominican Republic
Juan Pablo Duarte, Francisco del Rosario Sanchez, Ramon Matias Mella

East Germany
Walter Ulbricht

East Timor
Xanana Gusmao

Ecuador
Simon Bolivar

Egypt
Mohammed Ali Pasha

England
Alfred the Great

Eritrea
Isaias Afewerki

Fiji
Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara

Finland
Carl Gustaf Mannerheim

Gabon
Leon M'ba

The Gambia
Sir Dawda Jawara

Genoa
Andrea Doria

Germany
Otto von Bismarck

Ghana
Kwame Nkrumah

Greece
Ioannis Kapodistrias

Guinea
Ahmed Sekou Toure

Guinea-Bissau
Amilcar Cabral

Guyana
Cheddi Jagan

Haiti
Jean-Jacques Dessalines

Hungary
Lajos Kossuth

India
Mohandas K. Gandhi

Indonesia
Sukarno

Iran
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini (Islamic Republic)

Ireland
Eamon de Valera, Michael Collins

Israel
David Ben-Gurion

Italy
Victor Emmanuel II of Italy, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Count Camillo Benso di Cavour

Jamaica
Norman Manley, Sir Alexander Bustamante

Jordan
Hussein of Jordan

Kenya
Jomo Kenyatta

Kiribati
Ieremia Tabai

North Korea
Kim Il Sung

South Korea
Syngman Rhee

Kosovo
Ibrahim Rugova

Liberia
Joseph Jenkins Roberts

Malawi
Hastings Kamuzu Banda

Malaysia
Tunku Abdul Rahman

Mali
Modibo Keita

Malta
George Borg Olivier

Marshall Islands
Amata Kabua

Mauritania
Moktar Ould Daddah

Mauritius
Sir Seewoosagur Ramgoolam

Mexico
Jose Maria Morelos, Emiliano Zapata, Francisco I. Madero, Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla

Mongolia
Genghis Khan, Horloogiyn Choybalsan

Mozambique
Samora Machel

Namibia
Sam Nujoma

Nauru
Hammer DeRoburt

Netherlands
Willem I of Orange

New Zealand
Richard Seddon

Niger
Diori Hamani

Nigeria
Nnamdi Azikiwe

Niue
Sir Robert Rex

Oman
Qaboos of Oman

Pakistan
Mohammed Ali Jinnah

Panama
Manuel Amador Guerrero

Papua New Guinea
Sir Michael Somare

Paraguay
Jose Gaspar Rodriguez de Francia

Peru
Simon Bolivar

Philippines
Emilio Aguinaldo

Pitcairn Islands
Fletcher Christian

Poland
Jozef Pi?sudski

Portugal
Afonso I Henriques

Quebec
Rene Levesque

Saint Kitts and Nevis
Robert Bradshaw

Saint Lucia
Sir John Compton

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Sir James Mitchell

Samoa
Malietoa Tanumafili II

San Marino
Marinus

Sao Tome and Principe
Manuel Pinto da Costa

Saudi Arabia
Ibn Saud

Scotland
Donald Dewar

Senegal
Leopold Sedar Senghor

Seychelles
France-Albert Rene (self-styled "Architect of the Seychellois Nation")
Sierra Leone
Sir Milton Margai

Singapore
Lee Kuan Yew

Slovenia
Milan Kucan

Somalia
Ibrahim Egal

South Africa
Nelson Mandela

Soviet Union
Vladimir Lenin

Spain
Juan Carlos I of Spain

Sri Lanka
Don Stephen Senanayake

Suriname
Henck Arron

Sweden
Gustav I Vasa

Tanzania
Julius Nyerere

Republic of Texas
Stephen F. Austin

Thailand
Bhumibol Adulyadej

Togo
Sylvanus Olympio

Trinidad and Tobago
Eric Williams

Tunisia
Habib Bourguiba

Turkey
Kemal Ataturk

Turkmenistan
Saparmurat Niyazov (self-proclaimed "Leader of all Turkmen")

Tuvalu
Sir Toaripi Lauti

Uganda
Sir Edward Mutesa

United States
George Washington (styled the "Father of His Country")

Uruguay
Jose Gervasio Artigas

Vanuatu
Walter Lini

Venezuela
Simon Bolivar

Vietnam
Ho Chi Minh

Palestine (West Bank & Gaza Strip)
Yasser Arafat

Yugoslavia
Josip Broz Tito

Zambia
Kenneth Kaunda




: 他們用自己的觀點去詮釋別國過去的元首
: 喬治華盛頓是美國的第一任總統
: 美國人並不稱他為國父
: 不然
: 請那些中國人與滯台中國人告訴我
: 美語中的'國父'怎麼拼？
: (按中國人的用法  國父只有一個  應屬專有名詞  那美語中'國父'這個專有名詞是啥？)
: 甭跟我說是'founding fathers'
: 注意到沒？
: founding fathers是複數  字尾有加's'
: 這意味著美國人比較注重現實
: 開國是一群先烈先賢的集體努力
: 只有封建思想餘毒未除的中國人才會搞個'國父'、'國母'這樣的詞
: 造神一個人  讓他把開國功勞整碗公捧去
: 如果一國的首任總統是所謂的國父
: (像滯台中國人一貫地類比美國首任總統華盛頓為美國國父的話)
: 那麼中華民國的國父應該是首任總統的袁世凱
: 國民黨版的歷史
: 實在充滿太多的虛矯、矛盾與造神洗腦了
: 需要我們依理性一一搓破

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