推 Laird:red tape 150.203.24.3 12/19
推 liangoma:red tape是繁文縟節 可單純作"公文"來用嗎 61.64.238.77 12/19
推 liangoma:查到了official document 61.64.238.77 12/19
推 Laird:非常耗時間沒效率的"公文" = red tape 150.203.24.3 12/19