作者roxinnccu (觸身球專家)
看板FORMULA1
標題場邊意見:比賽精神已死?
時間Tue Sep 9 11:31:18 2008
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080908114903.shtml
The weekend racing died?
........
Type in the words 'Arnoux Villeneuve' into any well known video streaming
service and you'll get to watch two drivers battling tooth and nail in a
fight that was not for the race win, but the runner-up position.
在任何一個影音搜尋引擎打進Arnoux Villeneuve這兩個字,
你都會看到一段兩個車手『由牙齒打架到腳指』的拼鬥,
而且並不是為了贏比賽只是為了搶位置
The cars look dated now, but nearly three decades on the principal
is still the same and that is to beat the other guy.
車子30年來當然是更進步了,但是(比賽的)原則沒變,就是把另外一個人幹掉
Forward-wind to this weekend and we have seen that trying to win,
or indeed even make up ground, really may not be worth the bother
after all.
但本週末的發展,我們看到不管是要贏還是要搶位置,
似乎都沒啥必要去煩惱如何幹掉另外一個人
(譯按:老實說這段我不知道要怎麼翻比較適當,或者說比較達意
所以我ibt離100分還有段應該補習也沒有多少幫助的距離)
In Valencia Formula One fans were treated to 90 minutes of high speed
tedium and they didn急 like it. Lewis Hamilton trailed Felipe Massa
to the chequered flag and made no attempt to make a pass for the lead.
在瓦倫西亞大家看到了90分鐘的冗長無聊把戲,這是頗令人厭惡的
火腿一路跟著massa開到終點而沒做任何超越嘗試
(譯按:有人忘記火腿拉肚子而且脖子在痛)
With the points system the way it is, there really is little incentive
for a driver to risk a great deal to move from second place on track
to take the lead. Why risk an accident for two championship points?
在這種積分制度下,,車手實在沒有啥誘因去採取行動來由第二搶到第一
為什麼要冒這麼大的風險去多搶這兩分?
This weekend at Spa Francorchamps, we saw some stunning racing
both in Formula One and in the GP2 support series.
本週十八方果講的賽事,我們在F1跟GP2都看到了令人震驚的比賽過程
GP2 Championship leader Georgio Pantano found himself watching
the action early on Sunday morning having been disqualified
from the Saturday race and banned from taking part in the Sunday affair.
His crime? He made a mistake under braking and took out a rival while
trying to move through the field.
GP2的領先者喬吉歐潘塔諾在週日早上的比賽當了一回觀眾
因為他在週六的比賽為了突出重圍把他的一個對手帶了出去
Sunday afternoon was not so different either.
週日下午也出現了一樣的把戲
(譯按:前面敲了半天的邊鼓終於要開始講正題了)
Lewis Hamilton had the chance to beat Kimi Raikkonen to
the chequered flag and he took that decision.
It proved a bad decision in hindsight as he found himself
penalised by the Stewards and dropped six points as a consequence
to championship rival Felipe Massa.
火腿有個機會把滷蛋幹掉拿冠軍而他利用了那個機會,事後看來這真是蠢決定
因為一個判罰讓他領先massa的差距少了六分剩下兩分
(譯按:假設火腿乖乖第二跑完,他可以比massa多拿兩分,拉開差距到8分)
To put that into context, six points is the same for Hamilton as winning
the next three Grand Prix on the trot ahead of Massa.
數學上來看,六分的差距等於未來三站都跑在massa前面可以得到的差距
(譯按:那你得確定火腿跟massa都是在前三名內才是一個位置兩分)
So the answer has to be, don't bother, don't try and make a
pass as the chances are, you will lose out in the longer run.
所以結論是:別多事,有機會也不要嘗試超越,不然你損失的會更多
One doubts Hamilton will take that view and it is certain that
the legends that were Rene Arnoux and Gilles Villeneuve most
certainly would not either. Some will however and as ever,
the sport is all the poorer for it.
譯:又是一段證明小弟再補習去考ibt也沒辦法破百的文字,喵的
大概是說,上一段的"結論"讓比賽更難看了,認同AG戰鬥的人不會採取上面的『結論』
不過精確的翻譯小弟恕無能力
Is this what we want? Watch the clip, even if you have seen it
many times before, and then decide.
這是我們要的嗎?
看看短片,即便你看過很多次,然後再做決定
Earl ALEXANDER
?CAPSIS International
(這是生出這篇意見的crying baby)
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※ 編輯: roxinnccu 來自: 218.167.98.138 (09/09 11:34)
推 Lipatti:r大翻得很接近了啦 倒數第二段是說 照現在這種積分制所 09/09 11:52
推 Lipatti:得到的結論 Hamilton並不買帳 當然那兩位歷史老頭也不會 09/09 11:55
→ Lipatti:但是有些人確會如此盤算 也因此這個"運動"將會向下沉淪 09/09 11:57
推 Lipatti:被Earl先生講得心癢癢的 這一站GP2竟然要等到禮拜五的 09/09 12:00
推 LRHaw:個人認為,現在的積分制本來就有很大的問題,當初03年修改的 09/09 12:20
→ LRHaw:新制是為了要抑制像F隊誇張般的狂勝拉大積分優勢並提前封王 09/09 12:23
推 wylee:之前只有前六名才有分,改八名後,小車隊才會有競爭的慾望:D 09/09 12:23
→ LRHaw:以及讓中下游車隊有露臉得分的機會,用意是很好,但結果卻造 09/09 12:24
→ LRHaw:成穩定跑完勝過死命奪冠的情況,這問題其實說很久了,問題就 09/09 12:26
→ LRHaw:在冠軍與亞軍的給分太接近了,03年拿6勝的老舒差點被1勝的 09/09 12:28
推 JPMontoya:補連結 09/09 12:29
→ LRHaw:Kimi翻盤,而05~06年的小新幾乎只要努力前半年,下半年只要 09/09 12:30
→ LRHaw:穩穩拿第2或第3,幾乎就勝卷在握、讓後面追的半死了... 09/09 12:31
→ LRHaw:如果FIA要讓觀眾看精彩的比賽,積分制就要改變,哪怕是像北 09/09 12:33
→ LRHaw:美賽事一樣,拿個竿位或最快單圈也能有一分,這樣才會有趣嘛 09/09 12:35
推 Lipatti:人家Indy連領先最多圈數也有三分可領耶 話說這三分在今年 09/09 12:39
→ Lipatti:的最終站Chicago可是至為關鍵 Castroneves差點就要翻盤了 09/09 12:40
→ Lipatti:這一場"繞圈賽"還蠻精采的 Castroneves從第28位衝到第一 09/09 12:43
→ Lipatti:最後僅以八分之一個輪胎勝出 明晨4:00有重播 值得一看 09/09 12:45
→ ILS:他的車車最後有吐舌頭嗎? 09/09 12:47
※ 編輯: roxinnccu 來自: 218.167.98.138 (09/09 13:03)
推 CGary:在這樣的制度下 週日的比賽就沒意義了 都在比排位= = 09/09 13:13
推 herroyuilh:最好是車手從起跑就互不相讓...一堆人退賽...... 09/09 13:29
推 herroyuilh:然後後車抓真空帶你也可以自由換線阻擋 09/09 13:35
推 karting:冠亞軍分數差太少了啦 改的時候就很不喜歡 09/09 15:36
推 kanchan:crying baby? 這針對大舒的積分制度我還以為大家都討厭呢 09/09 15:45
→ kbsidd:車手起跑互不相讓的時代已經過去了 現在是積分時代 09/09 16:08
推 Lipatti:除非FIA再把積分制改成七零年代的選最好的幾場計分 09/09 16:22
→ Lipatti:如果像現在一年18場取最佳的12場計分 大家一定會很願意拼 09/09 16:25
推 kbsidd:還蠻想看車手沒拿任何一站分戰 卻拿到WC的(婊現在的積分制) 09/09 16:33
→ shdai:r大翻得很好 09/09 18:02
推 shdai:不過原文的觀點偏頗....罰不是罰超車 而是罰偷吃步超車 09/09 18:35
→ shdai:維護比賽的公平性 也算是維護比賽的精神吧 09/09 18:37
推 shdai:以前Ham就為了超Vettel進彎前太晚剎車 走西瓜線被罰過一次啦 09/09 18:41
推 ShowMing1218:桿位跟最快單圈有分制在下以為實在不錯阿 09/09 19:11