[情報] Hamilton not surprised by accident

[RealGarden (阿ㄐ)]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78604


Lewis Hamilton said he was not too surprised to crash out of the
Italian Grand Prix, claiming he was pushing like in qualifying
for the whole race.

The McLaren driver lost control of his car at the Lesmo corner with
less than two laps to go and crashed heavily against the barriers.

Hamilton, in third having started from pole, was pushing hard to
catch Jenson Button.

The Briton was uninjured and he claimed the crash was expected as
he was trying too hard.

"It's built like a rock so it's all good," Hamilton told the BBC.

He added: "Every lap I was pushing like a qualifying lap so it's
to be expected.We didn't have the pace and I was pushing as hard
as I could. I can only say I'msorry to the team.

"They did a great job and we weren't quick enough this weekend
but I did all I could to catch the Brawns and to win it for
them [the team].I apologise to all myfans and send my love to
my family."

Although Hamilton said his car has improved a lot, the world
champion admitted it was still lacking pace compared to the Brawns.

"I would say it's a lot better, you know, the car was still
good today, just notgood enough. The Brawns were just a little
bit better.

"We've got some upgrades coming and hopefully that will give us
a little bit of an edge and maybe I won't have to push 130 per cent,
maybe I can push 110 per cent."

McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh praised Hamilton's determination
despite the crash.

"I've not been to the garage, but obviously the team's really
disappointed," he said. "Lewis is just a racer, just pushes and
pushes and that's what he was doing. He'd just set a purple
[fastest] sector, he was racing to the very end and that's how
he is. You don't want to change that in a great, great champion
and a greatracing driver like Lewis.

"But, obviously, real disappointment that here he had a sub-optimal
strategy, probably seven seconds slower than a one stop, he was there
though fighting with the Brawns at the end of that race so he was
the ever competitive, just pushing like hell.

He added: "He didn't explain on the radio but you can see he set th
e fastest, purple, first sector on that last lap. He knew it was
one lap to go, just lost it coming out of Lesmo and I think it was
just pushing so hard. He wants to win and compete all the time and
he was homing in on Jenson. That's what he wanted to do."

Whitmarsh said there were thoughts about telling Hamilton to bring
the car home only after the accident.

"There are now, of course. But, I think we are a racing team, he
was there to push and he's now an experienced racing driver. It's
not in his spirit and his mode.We can criticise ourselves, we can
criticise Lewis but that's what makes Lewis the great racing driver
and the world champion that he is.

"He pushes every single lap, as he did throughout this race.
It didn't quite work out for him this weekend and it's disappointing
but we'll rebuild, he'll rebuild and we'll be in Singapore trying to
win that race.

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HAM說他拼了整場比賽，每圈都當排位賽圈再跑，所以對撞車不感到驚訝

車隊說HAM最後一圈第一段還刷出了紫色最快圈速，只是後面失控了..





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推 prostate:拍拍
推 ccharge:hero or zero.....LH got ZERO !
→ wildcat:排版一下吧 orz
推 chibimin:小黑還真是拼勁十足  有他也才有這麼多精彩鏡頭(茶)
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→ cyuching:他今天真得跑很好啊~從一開始就很有優勢,只是BGP的車感覺
→ cyuching:更穩而且速度又不差,不然今天他其實很有機會的~
推 wisehuang:拼了整場也不要再最後一圈，剩沒幾個彎出去啊...
→ metalfinally:BrawnGP的策略很成功
→ k2450:單就拼勁來說非常值得嘉許! 當然失誤就只好哭哭了
推 gf65:去年的Singapore Kimi也是這麼拼的.....
推 smallpig02:感覺好幾年過去了 Ham還是學不會收放自如的姿態
推 SLK55:不成功便成仁，偏偏發生在最後一圈...真可惜
推 kiwi03:Brawn重油還能不被拉出距離 可以看出車子有多強大
推 qwertgfp:這似乎沒甚麼好鼓勵的 畢竟積分都沒有了
→ yukai07:離終點不遠發生這種事  心態真的無法理解
推 yukai07:而且離BUT不是很近  後方追兵又差了15秒
推 MikaHakkinen:距離終點前不遠出包，某幾位車手是商當有經驗了 = =
推 SIG552:淚推M大...
推 timmycome:Mika苦主
推 roxinnccu:火腿如果現在是在積分上有爭冠希望，我想他在這種狀況會
→ roxinnccu:"收"的，去年在這站不就沒刻意去push抓Massa？問題是他
→ roxinnccu:今年已經沒啥可贏（or沒啥可輸）的了，就拼一下囉...
→ roxinnccu:只能說麥隊的車並沒有改良到即便在這個傳統上麥隊有優勢
→ roxinnccu:的賽道也可以稱霸的地步....
推 evansgt:別再說策略成功的笑話了 其他一停的怎麼不說成功 車快罷了
→ evansgt:Monza賽道特性讓一二停很接近 ham就是車慢才要push
→ evansgt:這失誤又不是很大 是差一滴滴那種 關心態啥事 -.-
→ kazami3019:好幾年?他進F1今年不是才第3年嗎?
→ roxinnccu:該拼的時候猛拼，該收的時候收，對一個車手要求最多也就
→ roxinnccu:是這樣了，去年前年他的爭議是該收的時候還是耍神風特攻
→ roxinnccu:最後損人又不利己，那今年他有什麼需要『收』的理由
→ roxinnccu:每場就給他拼下去就對啦，難道要像科科那樣才好嗎？
→ roxinnccu:（該收的時候耍神風，最具體就前年中國站跟去年日本站）
→ roxinnccu:（那兩站，基本上穩穩都穩穩跑完的話他已經是兩屆WDC了,
→ roxinnccu:可惜前年就因此丟了大量積分領先，去年搞得超級凶險）
推 yukai07:不懂e大的邏輯 HAM自己承認每圈都像排位一樣跑才會出事
→ yukai07:最後一圈的後半圈他差BUT超過1秒 領先KIMI超過15秒
推 yukai07:照他的實力難道不開這麼快也會出這個意外?
推 wisehuang:不過這些分數背後代表的都是錢耶 XD 最後需要這樣拼嗎？
推 etduke:哀 一切都是結果論拉  如果今天他拼過到咬住BUTTON
→ etduke:小巴的一站制輪胎搞不好也禁不起他的PUSH
→ etduke:關鍵時刻還可用KERS加速 車隊會放給他拼自然是覺得有機會
推 roxinnccu:麥隊有很欠錢嗎XDDD
→ kazami3019:有看到這篇 http://0rz.tw/VsJoD
→ kazami3019:一年多前的新聞
→ shdai:意外撞車是他自己失誤吃太多路緣石
→ shdai:so...not surprised by accident = not surprised by his
→ shdai:mistake????
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作者: smallpig02 (小豬二號) 看板: FORMULA1
標題: Re: [情報] Hamilton not surprised by accident  
時間: Mon Sep 14 15:11:16 2009

根據電視畫面
在49、50、51圈時
Ham分別比Button快了0.19、0.32、0.18秒
到了第52圈一開始時，兩者秒差僅1.2秒，這時僅剩2圈整
設想看看，如果是我打電動時，我肯定拼全力去追了!
天曉得跑前面那個會不會一個失誤，一下子損失0.5秒
在後長直道就可以kers一按撲上去了

還有一個案例是發生在1998年匈牙利
當大舒拼著把秒差累積到足以再多一次近站時
這時候還保有一點點優勢的Hakkinen賽車
卻開始出狀況了
最後居然是不管大舒有沒有累積足夠的優勢
都可以在多一次的PIT情形下，出PIT時佔據領先位置

也就是說，這算是個不二選的議題
只是我覺得小黑不成熟的地方在於他所想得到的只有把對手超越一途
去年的SPA是這樣，去年的Monza更是，今年的Monza就吃鱉了
如果他心態還是這樣，07年上海痛失機會的狀況就會再次發生

他一旦急了，就是他失手的時候

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推 Lipatti:其實在直路進彎前 閃到另一側作作假動作 都可對領前的車手
→ Lipatti:造成一定的心理壓力 心理素質好的 對自己的車子跟路線有
→ corlos:↑昨天中島有嚇到Alonso嗎？XD
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→ Lipatti:那次 而是後來跟兩輛Toyota一起耍寶的那一次
→ roxinnccu:是說開個賽車不想把對手超越那....還適合當賽車手嗎
→ roxinnccu:去年的Monza就說明他多少也是有意識到積分的重要了，他
→ roxinnccu:正是一路砍刮切菜欺負glock的追到了Massa後面還一圈砍
→ roxinnccu:兩三秒，但當他發現自己輪胎喵喵時就收手了，今次應該
→ roxinnccu:是覺得可以一拼才拼的吧，畢竟他也沒啥可輸的了
→ roxinnccu:如果他現在是處於去年那個狀況而Button是他主要對手的話
→ roxinnccu:我想他也會選擇跟著button到終點，然後上頒獎台用斜眼青
→ roxinnccu:button的...
推 roxinnccu:『耍神風』跟『當拼則拼』我想還是有差距的
→ roxinnccu:去年日本站那個叫耍神風，前年中國站那個叫開到發瘋
→ chagy:Sutil跟Kimi最後幾圈的秒差更小,圈速也明顯較快,還不是沒輒
→ roxinnccu:去年SPA那個叫看到紅車分外眼紅，但本次我認為沒啥可議
→ roxinnccu:的....
→ chagy:不過今年他也沒啥好損失的,應該就是賭一口氣,畢竟領先大半場
→ chagy:把r大推文中斷...拍謝~
推 TaiwanFlight:Ham只是想測試車子的極限而已
→ TaiwanFlight:每圈都當排位賽在跑的車手，大概也只剩Ham了
→ TaiwanFlight:Ham是純種戰士阿，可不是去轉圈圈穩穩拿積分的。
推 yngwie:樓上斑鳩果然很有見地,佩服佩服~~~!!!!!
推 KerryWood:追上是一回事....
→ PitCrew:                  班機墜機又是另一回事...
推 corlos:本日結論：HAM是純種戰士
→ corlos:可惜當年的郊遊二人組只剩老巴了(咦？他是冠軍)
推 asbel:07上海  車隊機關算盡  結果算到自己
推 ILR:   是糗爺  快拜
推 SuperAguri:大舒是純種戰士可以把掉老巴 (05 Monaco)
→ SuperAguri:火腿是純種戰士可以在最後一圈掛點 (害我賺點 P 幣) XD
→ t94132030:他SPIN的那邊路面是很髒的,他應該要考慮這點再拼