[閒聊] 嘴砲能手再度出擊.....

[herroyuilh (heeroyui)]

   轉自racingnet
   "Stoddart支持FIA主席下台"
   Stoddart表示：「Max Mosley直接了當地拒絕減速彎的提議，
   他必須好好地來回答，究竟是為何他要做出如此的決定。」
  「據我所知不少人已經在要求Mosley辭職了，我想我應該會支持他們。
   我不認為他的決定有任何合理的解釋，我想FIA主席現在必須好好地想想他的位置了，
   因為很多人都覺得他的位置不保了。」..............
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   加減速灣"絕對"是最不公平
   也是變數最大的解決方案
   畢竟大家都沒有跑過......
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   當然我完全看得出來
   他老大和7隻車隊的某些人(7隻車隊中畢竟還是有人想要好好比賽)
   根本就是想要藉由這次事件來興風作浪.....和FIA來角力



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推 atmos:我想問一下 加減速彎跟在彎道減速有多大差別?
推 pow:好像都沒人提到加了減速彎之後  要先跑三圈練習
→ pow:因為車手也要熟悉一下賽道  可是TOYOTA會哭
→ pow:還有其他輕油載的都會哭  所以也不是真的很可行
→ pow:彎道減速-考驗車手技術，加減速彎-考驗工作人員技術
→ pow:其實加減速彎可以「保證」B牌輪胎一起減速...so...
→ pow:這是最不公平的方案
推 atmos:說的也是 都忘了 哈
推 virage1223:輕油載在彎道也會比較快..
推 Schumacker:樓上是指先試跑油就更少了吧！
推 howardsuen:我覺得他再放話的話 只會加速F1的結束
推 generalife:Paul Stoddart 自己都有講到他跟 Max Mosley
→ generalife:這一季早就不合了. 以前 Giancarlo Minardi
→ generalife:時代 Minardi 車隊比現在可愛多了
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作者: XDDD (組馬克(y)) 看板: FORMULA1
標題: Re: [閒聊] 嘴砲能手再度出擊.....
時間: Wed Jun 22 12:40:49 2005

※ 引述《herroyuilh (heeroyui)》之銘言：
:    轉自racingnet
:    "Stoddart支持FIA主席下台"
:    Stoddart表示：「Max Mosley直接了當地拒絕減速彎的提議，
:    他必須好好地來回答，究竟是為何他要做出如此的決定。」
:   「據我所知不少人已經在要求Mosley辭職了，我想我應該會支持他們。
:    我不認為他的決定有任何合理的解釋，我想FIA主席現在必須好好地想想他的位置了，
:    因為很多人都覺得他的位置不保了。」..............
:    ................................................
:    ................................................
:    加減速灣"絕對"是最不公平
:    也是變數最大的解決方案
:    畢竟大家都沒有跑過......
:    ........................

補充一下FIA拒絕B牌車隊也必須減速、加減速彎的理由

The Michelin teams seemed unable to understand that this would have been
grossly unfair as well as contrary to the rules. The Bridgestone teams had
suitable tyres. They did not need to slow down. The Michelin teams’ lack of
 speed through turn 13 would have been a direct result of inferior equipment,
as often happens in Formula One. It must also be remembered that the FIA
wrote to all of the teams and both tyre manufacturers on June 1, 2005, to
emphasise that "tyres should be built to be reliable under
all circumstances".

"A chicane would have forced all cars, including those with tyres optimised
for high-speed, to run on a circuit whose characteristics had changed
fundamentally – from ultra-high speed (because of turn 13) to very slow and
 twisting. It would also have involved changing the circuit without following
any of the modern safety procedures, possibly with implications for the cars
and their brakes. It is not difficult to imagine the reaction of an American
court had there been an accident (whatever its cause)
with the FIA having to admit it had failed to follow its own rules and safety
 procedures.


截錄自 http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3209/740.html




:    當然我完全看得出來
:    他老大和7隻車隊的某些人(7隻車隊中畢竟還是有人想要好好比賽)
:    根本就是想要藉由這次事件來興風作浪.....和FIA來角力

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推 dunmax:我覺得這根本不必解釋
推 XDDD:問題是很多人連常理都不懂啊:~D
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作者: zzh (全身酸痛) 看板: FORMULA1
標題: Re: [閒聊] 嘴砲能手再度出擊.....
時間: Wed Jun 22 13:01:52 2005

※ 引述《XDDD (組馬克(y))》之銘言：
: 補充一下FIA拒絕B牌車隊也必須減速、加減速彎的理由
: The Michelin teams seemed unable to understand that this would have been
: grossly unfair as well as contrary to the rules. The Bridgestone teams had
: suitable tyres. They did not need to slow down. The Michelin teams’ lack of
:  speed through turn 13 would have been a direct result of inferior equipment,
: as often happens in Formula One. It must also be remembered that the FIA
: wrote to all of the teams and both tyre manufacturers on June 1, 2005, to
: emphasise that "tyres should be built to be reliable under
: all circumstances".
  M牌似乎不能瞭解這樣是非常不公平而且違反規定的.
  B牌有適合的輪胎，所以他們不需要慢下來.
  而使用M牌的車隊必須在13號彎慢下來是因為輪胎的表現不好造成，這在F1中很常見.
  而且在2005年6/1時FIA給各車隊及輪胎供應商的聲明強調的：輪胎必須在各種情況都是
  可以信賴的.
: "A chicane would have forced all cars, including those with tyres optimised
: for high-speed, to run on a circuit whose characteristics had changed
: fundamentally – from ultra-high speed (because of turn 13) to very slow and
:  twisting. It would also have involved changing the circuit without following
: any of the modern safety procedures, possibly with implications for the cars
: and their brakes. It is not difficult to imagine the reaction of an American
: court had there been an accident (whatever its cause)
: with the FIA having to admit it had failed to follow its own rules and safety
:  procedures.
  加一個減速彎會衝擊到所有車隊，包括那些輪胎可承受高速的車隊.
  而且加了減速彎後賽道的特性會改變，13號彎會變成非常慢和彎曲.
  這牽涉了彎腳沒有任何先進的安全防護措施，也牽涉到車輛和他們的煞車系統.
  這不難預期如果FIA同意的話可能造成的事故.

: 截錄自 http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3209/740.html

  大概是這樣的意思！
  我覺得FIA還講的蠻中肯的.

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推 madboy:FIA sucks...
推 lwecloud:我還是覺得是M牌自己的錯...
推 wuzongwuzong:Michelin sucks
推 dunmax:沒道理為了程度差的學生改變考題吧
推 Minneapolis:爛michelin
推 aterthy:M牌的太自私了...
推 virage1223:M牌會這麼強硬,背後一定傷當黑暗
推 Kej:推四樓...
推 amurorei:Michelin sucks...爛輪胎還想亂凹
推 corner0111:四樓的比喻還要斟酌一下......
推 LancerGSR:四樓的比喻好像怪怪的
推 rexlaser:我覺得四樓的比喻還滿恰當的阿