推 sheff:這沒得救了是嗎？ 08/06 10:50
推 schumy:比較好奇這是台灣人自己寫的還是翻譯的~不過我想媒體報導 08/06 10:58
→ schumy:是一回事.隨便他們去寫~有比賽看才是最重要的 08/06 10:59
推 kery0129:我已經懶得再為此事吵了 比賽時好好跑比嘴砲來的有用 08/06 17:40
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作者: deanlin (小恩) 看板: FORMULA1
標題: Re: [情報] Alonso用計誘殺Schumacher得逞
時間: Sun Aug 6 13:16:54 2006
※ 引述《Lander (Tifosi)》之銘言：
: http://f1.u-car.com.tw/f1-newsdetail.asp?newsid=476
: 為了不讓自己因為被罰2秒而在冠軍爭奪戰中處於劣勢，Fernando Alonso
: 極可能作出了一件讓匈牙利站圍場裡討論不休的事件。Michael Schumacher在
: 星期六早上自由練習賽，因為在紅旗的情況下超越前車，也被賽會罰2秒。 最
: 新的陰謀論指出，這兩位前後任世界冠軍同時被罰秒並非巧合，而是有人刻意
: 運作，此人正是Renault車隊Fernando Alonso。
這篇只有 Ferrari 沒有 Alonso 說法, 來看看 Alonso 怎麼說吧.
Source: Autosport Alonso Interview
這是說昨天的情形.
Q. What happened yesterday from your point of view, and what do you think
about the penalty you got?
Fernando Alonso: Well, what happened was that there was a discussion between
two drivers. Robert (Doornbos) and me had something that happens at every
race. There was no accident, no yellow flags and no touching of the cars. We
had no problems at all. And that was it.
The second problem was the yellow flag. The marshal decided to put a yellow
flag for 20 seconds only on the in lap. We don't understand why, and I was
overtaking Jarno Trulli and the angle to see the marshal was impossible
coming from Jarno's car.
It was strange because the track was clear on the timing page and also, two
or three laps before that yellow flag for 20 seconds, so both these things
got me the penalty for today.
And what I think about this? It is a normal thing for 99 percent of the
people. This is the first time in history that you get a penalty to have
discussions with another driver on one corner. And that is it.
今天的情形.
Q. What about today? There were no television pictures of Michael Schumacher
overtaking you and Robert Kubica. Can you tell us what happened, and what you
think about his penalty?
FA: Well. I don't know what happened. I only saw on television what happened
afterwards. I was in the car with the red flag and suddenly I saw one car on
the outside of the corner overtaking all of the group.
After that, I was surprised for the red flag and as for the penalty - it is
strange that it is the same one as I got for having a discussion with no
touching and no incidents.
針對 Ferrari 的指控
Q. There was a suggestion from the Ferrari camp that you slowed down too
much. Is that true?
FA: For sure that is what they have to say. It is obviously not true. All the
stewards they have all the information and all the data. They study a lot
before making a decision, and if I slowed down then you would see clearly.
When you overtake someone on the outside of one car, not only one car but two
cars, it is because you decided to do it.
對 MS 被罰的想法
Q. How much of a relief to you was it that Michael got the penalty?
FA: Nothing at all. At the end of the day I don't care what the others are
doing. I only know that my car is competitive here. We were P2 in both
qualifying sessions and we were ready to fight for the pole and especially
with a good pace in tomorrow's race. We missed this opportunity to win this
race with a surprising decision. If Michael is behind or not, it is not very
important. It is only the frustration to not be in your normal position.
存轉貼, 不翻了.. XD
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推 MikaHakkinen:您這篇完全沒迴響啊 XD 08/06 14:32
推 padro:XDDD 大家好像對英文沒興趣 08/06 14:35
推 deanlin:haha 今天精神不好, 所以才沒翻 XD 08/06 14:36
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作者: MikaHakkinen (你很C羅又有夠馬特拉齊耶) 看板: FORMULA1
標題: Re: [情報] Alonso用計誘殺Schumacher得逞
時間: Sun Aug 6 14:16:21 2006
※ 引述《deanlin (小恩)》之銘言：
: ※ 引述《Lander (Tifosi)》之銘言：
: : http://f1.u-car.com.tw/f1-newsdetail.asp?newsid=476
: : 為了不讓自己因為被罰2秒而在冠軍爭奪戰中處於劣勢，Fernando Alonso
: : 極可能作出了一件讓匈牙利站圍場裡討論不休的事件。Michael Schumacher在
: : 星期六早上自由練習賽，因為在紅旗的情況下超越前車，也被賽會罰2秒。 最
: : 新的陰謀論指出，這兩位前後任世界冠軍同時被罰秒並非巧合，而是有人刻意
: : 運作，此人正是Renault車隊Fernando Alonso。
: 這篇只有 Ferrari 沒有 Alonso 說法, 來看看 Alonso 怎麼說吧.
: Source: Autosport Alonso Interview
: 這是說昨天的情形.
: Q. What happened yesterday from your point of view, and what do you think
: about the penalty you got?
: Fernando Alonso: Well, what happened was that there was a discussion between
: two drivers. Robert (Doornbos) and me had something that happens at every
: race. There was no accident, no yellow flags and no touching of the cars. We
: had no problems at all. And that was it.
: The second problem was the yellow flag. The marshal decided to put a yellow
: flag for 20 seconds only on the in lap. We don't understand why, and I was
: overtaking Jarno Trulli and the angle to see the marshal was impossible
: coming from Jarno's car.
: It was strange because the track was clear on the timing page and also, two
: or three laps before that yellow flag for 20 seconds, so both these things
: got me the penalty for today.
: And what I think about this? It is a normal thing for 99 percent of the
: people. This is the first time in history that you get a penalty to have
: discussions with another driver on one corner. And that is it.
: 今天的情形.
: Q. What about today? There were no television pictures of Michael Schumacher
: overtaking you and Robert Kubica. Can you tell us what happened, and what you
: think about his penalty?
: FA: Well. I don't know what happened. I only saw on television what happened
: afterwards. I was in the car with the red flag and suddenly I saw one car on
: the outside of the corner overtaking all of the group.
: After that, I was surprised for the red flag and as for the penalty - it is
: strange that it is the same one as I got for having a discussion with no
: touching and no incidents.
: 針對 Ferrari 的指控
: Q. There was a suggestion from the Ferrari camp that you slowed down too
: much. Is that true?
Q. 從Ferrari陣營傳來指控，說你將車速放得太慢，這是真的嗎？
: FA: For sure that is what they have to say. It is obviously not true. All the
: stewards they have all the information and all the data. They study a lot
: before making a decision, and if I slowed down then you would see clearly.
: When you overtake someone on the outside of one car, not only one car but two
: cars, it is because you decided to do it.
小新：可以確定的是他們勢必會這樣說。很明顯那並不是真的。所有的stewards
都有全部的資訊和資料，在做決定前他們會做許多研究，何況如果我放慢了那你們應
該很明顯能看得出來。當你超越在某台車外側的某個傢伙時，不只超了一台還是超兩
台，那是因為你決定如此做的。
(這段的意思就是小新認為大舒並非在別人刻意放慢的狀況下不小心連超2台車，
而是清楚明顯地自己做出超越的舉動)
: 對 MS 被罰的想法
: Q. How much of a relief to you was it that Michael got the penalty?
: FA: Nothing at all. At the end of the day I don't care what the others are
: doing. I only know that my car is competitive here. We were P2 in both
: qualifying sessions and we were ready to fight for the pole and especially
: with a good pace in tomorrow's race. We missed this opportunity to win this
: race with a surprising decision. If Michael is behind or not, it is not very
: important. It is only the frustration to not be in your normal position.
: 存轉貼, 不翻了.. XD
隨便翻翻：英文爆爛M
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Mika Hakkinen -- Born: September 28, 1968 F1 driver: 1991-2001
Career: 20 wins, 51 podium finishes, 26 poles, 25 fastest laps, 420 points
1998 F1: West McLaren Mercedes, World Champion, 100 points
(8 wins, 11 podium finishes, 9 poles, 6 fastest laps)
1999 F1: West McLaren Mercedes, World Champion, 76 points
(5 wins, 10 podium finishes, 11 poles, 6 fastest laps)
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推 padro:M大 你今天要選輪胎人還是B牌阿? XDDD 08/06 14:18
推 MikaHakkinen:兩個帽子我都有耶 (茶) 08/06 14:25
推 ceohkt:輪胎人的藍色有助於M大今日運勢的提升= =+ 08/06 14:26
推 padro:M大 其實我比較好奇你在換掉Alonso滑鼠墊後 08/06 14:28
→ padro:是不是有摸過什麼跟MS相關的東西XDDDD 08/06 14:29
推 k2450:給你錢 帶M牌! 08/06 14:36
→ padro:錢給你 戴B牌 XD 08/06 14:37
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