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Crazy Bluff On The River 河牌上的瘋狂唬爛 September 2009 Sami Kelopuro http://0rz.tw/7dRTh Let me tell you about my sick bluff against Tom “durrrr” Dwan. We have been playing heads up for a couple of hours on Full Tilt Poker and I’ m up by a few hundred thousand. At the start of this hand I have a stack of $311,232 and durrrr has $308,984. 讓我告訴你一個我對"durrrr"(註1)做出的變態bluff。 我們已經在FTP上玩heads-up兩個小時,我贏了一、二十萬。在這手牌開始前我的籌 碼是$311232而durrrr有$308984。 I’m on the button and raise to $3,000 with 6? 4?, durrrr calls. Flop comes 9? 5? 2?, durrrr checks to me, and I make my normal continuation bet of $4,000. durrrr raises to $12,700. I only have a gutshot but we are playing so deep I can win a big pot if I hit the nuts with a 3. 我在button的位置拿著6d4s raise到$3000,durrrr call下來。flop出來是9c5d 2s,durrrr check給我,我做個很普通c-bet到$4000。durrrr raise到$12700。我只有聽 一個中洞順,但是我們籌碼都這麼多,如果讓我中到一張3的話,我就能贏到一個大pot If there was a flush draw on the flop, I would give up the hand. Apart from the deep stacks, position gives me an edge as I have the chance to outplay him on later streets. It’s a very dry board, so it’s likely that durrrr is just stealing without a hand. He knows that I c-bet more than most players, so to him it’s likely the flop hasn’t helped me at all. Therefore I think a call on this flop is pretty standard. 如果flop上是個同花draw,我可能會放棄這手牌。除了雙方如此多的籌碼外,位 置優勢也給了我一點機會在之後的牌上可以outplay他。這是個非常乾的board,所以 durrrr可能沒牌,只是想偷pot。他知道我比大多數玩家都還會c-bet,所以對他而言, 這個flop很可能也沒幫到我什麼。因此我認為call flop是相當標準的作法。 I suppose many high stakes players would three-bet here to take control of the pot, but I don’t like that play at all. With a board like that, no decent player – and especially not durrrr – would fold top pair or even middle or bottom pair to a large raise. And if my opponent has nothing, I can win the pot on the turn or the river anyway. 我想許多高額籌碼的玩家會在這裡3-bet來控制這個pot,但我一點也不喜歡這樣 玩。像這樣的board,一個像樣的玩家-尤其是durrr-只要拿著top pair甚至是中等或最 小的對子都不會因為對手raise很大一發就fold牌。而且如果我的對手什麼牌也沒有,我 可以在turn或river贏這個pot。 So I call, and the turn comes the A?. durrrr bets $24,700. I don’t think the ace helped him, but he probably thinks the same of me unless I have something like A-3 or A-4. So it’s possible he’s still value betting a 9. 所以我call,turn來了一張Ac。durrrr bet$24700。我不認為這張A有幫到他,但 是他很可能也覺得A沒幫到我,除非我有A3 A4這樣的牌。所以他有可能是在value bet他 的一張9。 In a way the ace is a good card for a second barrel bluff, so it’s nearly impossible to put him on any particular hand at this point. turn上的A是張能夠二次bluff的牌,所以這裡幾乎不能去推測他拿著什麼樣的 牌。 I don’t want to raise because durrrr often pushes the turn with some pretty marginal hands and then I’ll be forced to fold. I decide to call to see the river with the intention of taking down this pot with my positional advantage. 我不想要raise回去,因為durrrr常常會拿著不好不壞的牌反推回來,然後我就 被迫要蓋牌。我決定call下來看river,試圖用位置優勢去拿下這個pot。 So I call once more, and the river is the 7?. durrrr bets $68,700. I have approximately $200,000 more and durrrr has about the same amount. 所以我再一次call牌,river是一張7s。durrrr bet$68700。我大概剩$200K, durrr也差不多。 I have 6-high, so naturally I can win this pot only if I raise. 我只有6-high,所以基本上只能靠raise才能贏了。 In my mind durrrr could have just about anything here. Quite possibly he doesn’t have any sort of a hand. If he does, it’s probably two pair or a set. I don’t think he can value bet a mere 9 here anymore, though there is a small chance he might. A pair of aces is good enough for a thin value bet but it’s not a likely hand for him. The only way he can have an ace is with A-3 or A-4. 在我想法裡,durrrr拿什麼牌都有可能。很可能他啥也沒有。如果他有,可能是 兩對或三條。我不認為他只拿一張9會在這裡做個value bet,也許有那麼一丁點可能啦。 一對A足夠在這裡value bet,但是不像他有的牌。唯一有可能是A的牌組是A3 A4。 A-6, A-8, A-10, A-J, A-Q and A-K are all hands that he would have just called with on the flop, and the higher part of that range he would have raised pre-flop. For the same reason I can count out all pocket pairs from 10-10 to K-K. A6 A8 AT AJ AQ AK這些牌組他只會在flop上call牌,更強的牌組他會在preflop raise。同理,TT到KK也是。 With a small raise I could have forced him to fold a bluff and possibly some of his thin value bets. But it occurred to me that if I raise all in he will think I must have a really big hand. I thought I could make him lay down even two pair or a set. The hand that I’m most likely representing is a straight with 3-4 or 6-8. I think those two are very likely holdings for me here, especially if it’s with two clubs so that I would have turned a flush draw too. With the smaller straight I would have often raised the turn, but if I think durrrr is bluffing it’s correct for me to slowplay. 6? 8? is the most likely hand for me here. I could also have a set, probably with A-A or 7-7. With a smaller set I probably wouldn’t raise the river since durrrr has been representing a big hand all the way. 來個小一點的raise可能會讓他被迫fold掉他的bluff,以及一些比較弱的value bet。但是我想到如果allin的話,他可能會以為我真的有很強的牌。我想我能讓他放棄 兩對或三條。我很可能在代表的牌是34 68順子。我認為這兩個牌組是我很可能會有的, 尤其是3c4c 6c8c讓我還有個同花draw。拿著順子我常常會在turn上raise,但是如果我 覺得durrrr在bluff,那slow play就是正確的打法。6c8c在這裡是最像我會有的牌了。 我也可能有三條,像是AA 77。如果是很小的三條,我可能不會在durrrr在表示他像是有 強牌的時候,我還在river raise。 I didn’t think there were many hands that durrrr would suspect I’m bluffing with after this action. Possibly 6-6 or 8-8, in which case I was calling “to keep him honest” on the flop and turn but realized on the river that my hand is not good enough for showdown. Not very likely, I would say. 我不認為有太多牌會讓durrrr懷疑我是在allin bluff。可能66或88,我在 flop turn都call牌來保持誠實,但是在river覺得牌不夠強到能showdown。我會說,不 太可能。 Otherwise I would need to have almost a complete float, maybe something with two clubs. Q-J, K-J, or K-Q I would have checked on the flop or folded to a raise. It takes some creative thinking to come up with a hand that I would bluff with on the river considering the action and what he knows about my game. I have the hand that I’m representing enough times to make the bluff credible, especially when he possibly thinks that I’m scared money at $500/$1,000 and I haven’t made any crazy bluffs against him in a long time. 除此之外我可能需要去徹底的float,也許是兩張梅花。QJ KJ KQ會check flop 或是fold raise。這時浮現一些創造性想法,我會在river bluff。我已用足夠的時間去 有信用的代表我有這樣的牌,尤其是他很可能會想我會怕$500/$1000的盲注,而且我很 長一段時間都不曾做出這樣瘋狂的bluff。 So I push all in. 所以我全推了 durrrr uses almost all of his time bank and finally calls with A? 9?. To be honest, I started to regret my move while I was waiting for his decision and I realized he was going to call me. He likes to make those calls and he hates the idea that I might push him out of a big pot. durrrr幾乎用掉他time bank裡的所有時間,最後用Ad9d call了。老實說,當我 在等他下決定以及意識到他call時,我開始後悔了。他喜歡去call這類情況,而且他討 厭我在逼他放棄這個大pot。 I’m not trying to belittle his skills or imply that he’s a careless player, but the fact is that I tried to bluff the wrong opponent. 我不會試圖去貶低他的技巧或是認為他是個草率的玩家,但事實是我唬錯人了。 I quit the session soon after this hand because I knew this kind of hand would have a negative impact on my game. I wasn’t even tilted or angry with myself or with any domestic objects in the near vicinity. Mistakes happen, and this was just one of them. 那一手結束後我馬上關掉桌子,因為我知道這手牌會對我有負面影響。我沒有 tilt、沒有對自己或周遭的人生氣。錯誤發生了,這只是所有錯誤的一部份。 Besides, my bluff was a good investment for the future. A little while ago I played a couple of sessions with him again and I won big. With my new “bluffy” image I got paid for my good hands almost every time and he didn’t make any big laydowns anymore. Even a bad bluff can turn into profit in the long run. 後來這個bluff變成一個好的投資。不久前我再次跟durrrr玩了兩次而我贏了很 多。因為我的新"唬爛"形象讓我幾乎每次拿好牌時都能賺到,而且他不會再放棄任何一 個大pot。即使是個不好的bluff,長期也能獲利。 註1 Tom “durrrr” Dwan http://www.pokertableratings.com/fulltilt-player-search/durrrr Ad9d v.s 6d4s http://0rz.tw/RczW3 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.39.149.213 ※ 編輯: Goal 來自: 114.39.149.213 (10/27 22:54)
newbiegg:最後一段自我安慰成功 10/28 00:54
ChrisPaul3:超級自我安慰,查PTR只查到durrrr從他那拿900K拿得很爽 10/28 01:47
RyanTan:heads up逼對方蓋掉top two? bad bluff還比較適合... 10/28 03:09
nollet:我猜他打live會打手槍射在durrrr臉上 10/28 04:10
bluewave2000:XDDD 10/28 12:01