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3/20日 經濟學人報導台灣學生反服事件 該報導有上首頁: http://i.imgur.com/evQGyzg.png http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2014/03/politics-taiwan Politics in Taiwan Students in the house Mar 20th 2014, 11:02 by Banyan | TAIPEI NEARLY three days into their occupation of the debating chamber of the Legislative Yuan, Taiwan's parliament, in Taipei, dozens of activists, mostly students, show no sign of flagging. They broke in on Tuesday evening, March 18th, and resisted attempts by the police to evict them overnight. Since then, a stand-off has persisted. The police are stopping new arrivals from joining them, but allow in food and water. The protesters include a team of white-coated medics. They look well settled. Three legislators from the main opposition, the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), started 70-hour hunger-strikes just before the occupation. They are taking eight-hour shifts in the parliament to afford the protesters extra protection—to shift the students, the police will also have to manhandle the legislators. Outside, a crowd of several hundred ignores the drizzle to listen to speeches and songs, wave artificial sunflowers, and shout denunciations of the government and of Taiwan's president, Ma Ying-jeou. The occupation was billed as lasting 120 hours, to block a plenary parliamentary session on Friday 21st March, and to provide a deadline for the government to meet the protesters' demands. These are three-fold: they want Mr Ma to come to the chamber himself to apologise for the way in which his party pushed an agreement on opening up services trade with China through parliament on Monday (available here, in Chinese); they also want the parliamentary speaker, Wang Jin-pyng (who happens to be a rival to Mr Ma in the ruling party, the Kuomintang, or KMT ) to come to pay his respects; and they want legislation passed to institutionalise parliament's right to scrutinise such agreements item by item. The DPP insists the students are acting on their own initiative. But it is supporting their protest, which it believes is tapping a rich vein of discontent with the government, focusing on the services-trade agreement. The sit-in was provoked by what the DPP sees as the KMT's breaking of its promise to allow a parliamentary committee to review the agreement clause by clause. At a press conference on March 20th, the DPP's chairman, Su Tseng-chang, portrayed this as a 「key moment」 for Taiwan's quarter-century-old democracy, which he said the party would 「do whatever it takes」 to protect. In less lofty terms, the DPP seems to have spotted an opportunity to exploit the unpopularity of a man they call 「a 9% president」—a reference to the low point Mr Ma's approval rating fell to last year in opinion polls—on an issue where they think he is weak. With local elections in December and a new presidential contest due in 2016, when Mr Ma will have to stand down, the DPP seems to think it has the KMT on the run. Improving relations with China has been a central theme of Mr Ma's presidency since he took office in 2008. In 2010 China and Taiwan signed the Economic Co-operation Framework Agreement (ECFA), significantly boosting cross-strait ties. The services agreement, signed last June, is part of the effort to implement that framework. At the press conference, Mr Su spoke under a banner reading: 「Demand substantial review; restart negotiations with China.」 The DPP argues the agreement will hurt small businesses on Taiwan and is lopsided in some of its market-opening measures. But also, the party's roots are in the movement that wants Taiwan to declare formal independence from China; it worries about Taiwan's becoming too dependent economically on the mainland. Hsiao Bi-khim, one of the DPP hunger-strikers, thinks most people on Taiwan are behind it on this, since they have yet to see the benefits they were promised from ECFA. The economy is still, by local standards, sluggish. For his part, Mr Ma may be thinking about his legacy, and wanting to use his remaining years in power to make a breakthrough in relations with China. Last month Nanjing in China played host to the first formal meeting between ministers from China and Taiwan in their government capacities since the end of the civil war in 1949 formalised the division. A next step would be a summit between Mr Ma and China's president, Xi Jinping. Hopes that the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit in Beijing this autumn might provide an opportunity are fading. But it would be easier to achieve a meeting elsewhere if the implementation of ECFA were going well. In the shorter term, however, Mr Ma has a nasty local problem. The students say they will not leave after their five-day deadline if their demands have not been met; and they may take their 「occupy」 strategy to other targets: Mr Ma's own office, for example. It is already highly unusual for a government to have tolerated the seizure of parliament by protesters for so long. But, fearful of the ugly headlines using force against peaceful students would attract, it does not have many easy options. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.104.108.193
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cul287:#1JAmFqu3 這篇OP了 03/21 03:58
kyle77:我也這麼認為 求翻譯 03/21 03:59
Waitaha:求翻譯 03/21 03:59
maxxV3:Students in the house是什麼意思? 學生在房子裡? 03/21 03:59
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s908322001:余光中咧? 03/21 03:59
demitri:覺得偏頗馬政府 03/21 03:59
writer1116:喔 原來如此~ 跪求中文 03/21 03:59
daouz:/經濟學人 03/21 03:59
cul287:101197 這篇#1JAmFqu3Y 03/21 03:59
amovie:冊封馬邦伯 辛苦了 03/21 03:59
wamos:house在這裡應該是國會或政府機關的意思吧 03/21 04:00
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solidmiss:真的確實是這樣 不過第三段那邊有一點問題 03/21 04:00
solidmiss: 有中文的嗎 03/21 04:00
elle:說得太好了 可惜我看不懂 03/21 04:00
pasaword:我可以快速我流翻譯丟上來 lol 03/21 04:00
LM10:翻譯:學生佔領立法院 馬宗痛遲遲不願承認自己是bumbler! 03/21 04:00
SuccubusGirl:house指國會吧。好像有上下議院的國家很常用這字 03/21 04:00
Seraphy:這篇算中肯 平鋪直敘 03/21 04:00
choulu:英語的 NHK 新聞 (在美國有線電視網可看到) 也有報, 不過 03/21 04:00
bettyshinn:趕快推 想法和我一樣 03/21 04:00
orfan:看得懂但不會翻...丟棒給神人了 03/21 04:01
TaipeiLeo:經濟學人立場本來就比較右派 03/21 04:01
lanuvie:前面有翻譯啦 這篇OP了 就#1JAmFqu3啊 看一下推文 03/21 04:01
choulu:報得不詳盡 03/21 04:01
pasaword:有人翻了啊 #1JAmFqu3 直接去看 03/21 04:01
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lanuvie:就有人翻過了 同樣的事不用做兩次吧 03/21 04:01
cul287:http://goo.gl/I0dJmA 翻譯 03/21 04:01
ppbigass:被右派封為bumbler 還真的是實至名歸 03/21 04:01
silentence:in the house 只他們佔據國會這地方 03/21 04:01
disremember:幫高調 03/21 04:01
gn00291010: 03/21 04:02
silentence:馬的 真厲害 可連上兩次經濟學人 03/21 04:02
WrongHole: 03/21 04:02
cul287:大家推的同時 也回去朝勝給原PO鼓勵吧!! 03/21 04:03
seraph01:早就跟你說馬是bumbler 03/21 04:03
altonl:又一個國際認證 03/21 04:03
abc53:推 03/21 04:03
cvbn7910:內文其實沒講到 KMT強渡關山 很客觀的陳述 03/21 04:04
demitri:花很多篇幅在講DDP 可是馬英九的違法問題輕輕帶過? 03/21 04:05
demitri:哪裡客觀? 違法強渡關山這才是重點吧 03/21 04:05
pasaword:他們如果沒有收到這麼細的資料他們也寫不出來啊 -_- 03/21 04:06
silentence:純粹不懂台灣的立法程序哪裡出問題吧 03/21 04:07
lemondrink:經濟學人其實沒看懂整件事情耶 03/21 04:09
demitri:CNN都講出來了啊 這篇完全在講DDP對這事的態度 03/21 04:09
IdleBee:反服的人兩成都不到...好可憐呀...XD 03/21 04:09
IdleBee:mag.udn.com/mag/news/vote_result.jsp?f_VOTE_ID=2788 03/21 04:10
demitri:這篇也沒講到為什麼大家反應這麼激烈 03/21 04:10
Seraphy:三點訴求那段有輕輕帶過上述強渡關山部分 03/21 04:11
Seraphy:逐條審議被打破也有在蘇貞昌那幾段講到 03/21 04:12
Seraphy:整體看起來沒有偏頗 03/21 04:12
cvbn7910:外國人看服貿而已,還是得靠自己XD 03/21 04:15
demitri:對,但是本文只強調這是加強兩岸關係的東西 並未講到 03/21 04:20
demitri:一般人看服貿的點 和她未來對台灣可能產生的衝擊 03/21 04:20
demitri:然後講到馬的態度只說他想當兩岸的調人的歷史定位 03/21 04:21
demitri:乍聽非常正面毫無問題 這篇過於平舖直述而且重點錯誤 03/21 04:21
finetea:經濟學人是自由貿易的信仰者,不意外 03/21 04:37
chataulait:這篇我不覺得寫得好耶,連一些基本事實都有錯... 03/21 04:58
wuliaude:這篇寫的很糟 希望最後printe edition不要用這篇 03/21 05:37
Tenging:經濟學人也懂拔草測風向 03/21 05:49
demitri:這篇大概含了很多中國觀點吧 03/21 06:05
faxy:....... 03/21 07:28
reallocust:看久了經濟學人會了解這家的信仰一直都是完全開放的自 03/21 08:10
reallocust:由經濟,不意外 03/21 08:10
ipomic: 03/21 11:09
michen1992:他們永遠不懂亞洲事務 03/21 11:25