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※ 引述《ext66 (暗夜)》之銘言: : 真是夠了,政經剛剛又有來賓在打 : 「柯文哲在辯論會上拿出來的律師函是真是假、不給記者拍攝」等莫名其妙的問題 : 我說阿,所有的東西作者官網就有了, : 也有當年柯文哲說的"作者之後會正式說明" : (其實就是長版的律師函,媒體沒報只是因為事情很清楚沒爆點了吧?) : 上節目之前做個功課有這麼難嗎? : https://imgur.com/gallery/OaKtpH9 : 沒發現在作者官網哪裡的話,抓出來給你們看了。 : 來源: : https://ethan-gutmann.com/ko-wen-je-interview/ 先附個Gutmann回覆的影片連結 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-XUXdPNJW4
影片中不難看出Gutmann對柯的尊敬 還有對記者的行為感到不滿 我覺得影片比信件打臉更真實啦 情緒跟用字都假不了 最近要考托福 下面逐字稿+翻譯 (如果要後面Gutmann噴記者的逐字稿我過幾天再補) 超。懶人包: 2004當時中國整天在宣傳器官移植, 柯為了病人去中國看看情況, 結果意外發現有法輪功被迫害, 為了避免這種來路不明的器官, 他弄了一個表格讓中國醫生不能夠隱瞞器官來源, Gutmann大為讚賞。 In my book, I did not describe Dr. Ko as an organ broker.I describe him as a man of SINGULAR COURAGE. Dr. Ko basically admitted that he had stumbled into something terrible in China. He was looking into the quality of care for transplant patients. Elderly people in Taiwan who wanted to get an organ, China is obviously a go-to place. To wait in Taiwan on the list was a death sentence to for somebody who needed a new liver. 在我的書中,我並沒有描述柯醫師是器官仲介。 我描述他是一個有獨特非凡勇氣的人。 柯醫師基本上是坦承,他曾經在中國意外遇到一些可怕的事。 他當時正在研究移植病患的照護品質。 對台灣想要找到合適器官的老人家來說,中國顯然是一個適合的地方。 僅待在台灣排隊等待移植,對需要換肝的人來說,是跟死刑差不多的。 This is back in 2004, 2005. China is out there advertising prices, advertising care. So at some point, he is in the Mainland and he goes to a hospital and he talks to the doctors, and they go through some sort of getting-to-know-you process ,and at the end of that process they say, "well, look, we will give your patients from your clinic or whatever, we'll give them a Chinese price, about half the foreigner price." But they also say "we also understand your concerns about organ quality." He was looking out for his patients or his clinic. 時間回到2004,2005。中國正在外面宣傳(器官移植)的價格和照護。 所以當時柯是有去中國,在一家醫院見了一些醫生, 經過一些互相認識的過程,在最後那些醫生說: “我會給你們的病人中國價,差不多是外國人的半價。” 但他們也說,“我們也瞭解你對器官品質的要求。” 他是為了病人以及他的醫院著想。 In China, you negotiate. Everybody negotiates. Politicians negotiate, businessmen negotiate, doctors negotiate, my mother negotiates for the price of a banana for about 5 minutes in a Beijing market. And there's nothing hidden about that or surreptitious or even evil about it. It is simply the way things of business is done in China. 在中國,大家都會討價還價。不管是政客,商人,醫生,甚至我老媽都會在北京的市場 為了一串香蕉討價還價5分鐘。這不是什麼隱晦或見不得人甚至是邪惡的事。這只是 中國人處理事情的方式。 What he was told though, was something he did not expect. Dr. Ko was basically told "you don't have to worry about the quality of these organs because they are Falun Gongs'. These people they don't drink, they don't smoke, they practice very healthy Chi-gong. Everybody knows the Falon Gong are arrested with no, often aren't arrested at all. They just simply disappear. They were taken in. Everybody knows they're being tortured. I mean, this is not a secret in Taiwan. This was an appalling thing, a terrible thing that he walked into here. 但接下來他聽到的,卻是他沒料想到的事。 “你不用擔心器官的品質啦,這些都是法輪功的, 他們不喝酒不抽菸,還會練健康氣功。” 大家都知道法輪功會被逮補,不是,通常不會被逮補。他們只會消失。 他們被抓去,被虐待。這在台灣不是秘密。 但這一件駭人可怕的事,他還是剛好遇到了。 He did something about it. He created a form, an electronic form on his computer and put a lot of work into this, which Chinese doctors would have to use, which identify where every organ came from. He said, "this will only take care of 95% of the problem." He wasn't referring to criminal being harvested, he was referring to Falun Gong being harvested. He was basically saying this would shame mainland doctors. This would give a sense of transparency to the process. This would make them accountable. 對於這件事,柯做到了一件事。 他弄了一個表格,在他電腦上的電子表格。 他很用心的做了這件事,讓中國醫生必須去確認每個器官的來源。 柯說:“這只能解決95%的問題。” 他並不是說那些割出器官的犯人,而是那些法輪功的人。 他根本上是說,這樣(確認來源)會讓醫生羞愧。 這樣會讓流程更透明,讓這些醫生能夠負責。 There's no other reason that he created this for. In a sense, he was trying to do what the transplantation society tried to do only over the last 2 years, which was to bring accountability to the system, and he was trying to do this alone. This is not a figment of our imagination and we both understood exactly what we're talking about. I played with that form, I moved up and down and I cursored around all over his computer. My researcher did too. I described him as a man of singular courage because this was an act of courage and was a profoundly dangerous act. In fact, he told me that he was banned from the mainland. 他弄了這些表格,完全不為別的。 某種意義上,他那時候就已經在做器官移植社群在過去2年嘗試做的事, (影片是2015) 也就是讓器官移植體系更可靠,而他是自己一個人嘗試去做。 這不是我們虛構的,而我們(作者與他的研究員)都知道我們在說什麼。 我曾經用過那表格,我也掃遍他的電腦。我的研究員也這麼做。 我描述他是一個有獨特非凡勇氣之人, 因為這是一件展現勇氣的事,也是一個格外危險的舉動。 事實上,柯告訴我他因此被中國封殺了。 Let's go to 2013. I'm getting closer with my book, and at one point, I wanted to put out an article, and I wrote up a text of what I remembered of our interview. It's called "a tale of two surgeons". I sent this text to my researcher Lee Shy. Lee Shy added on a little note to Dr. Ko. "Under the circumstances that we don't mentioned your name ,specific situations ,or any details, is it okay to write this content?" That's number 1. Number 2, "Is his draft of this story below, and it's below, according to reality? Is it factual? Because of the time we didn't record and we didn't ask too much about this direction, so there's some situations we're not too clear about. We just remember the general drift. Could you take a look and tell us where the story is inaccuracies. If it's incorrect, how should it be correctly stated?" Dr. Ko's answer is right above it. "The story seems okay." 我們回到2013,我正在寫我的書,某時,我想要寫出這邊文章。 我寫了一整段關於我們(與柯)會談的篇幅,叫做"2位外科醫生的故事"。 我先將這篇文章傳給我的研究員,他加上了一些附註,寄給柯醫師。 “在不提到您的名字,特定的狀況,以及任何具體細節的情況下, 我們可以寫出這些內容嗎?”這是第一個附註問題。第二個, “這些都是事實嗎?在當時我們沒有錄音也並沒有問到這方面, 所以有些狀況我們並不是太清楚,僅記得大略。 您可以告訴我們有什麼不正確嗎?如果有,那正確的是如何呢?” 柯醫師的回答就如同上面,“這故事看起來ok。” I defy anyone to find significant differences in what's being published here. Then in January, 2014. The request to identify Dr. Ko by his real name was granted by Dr. Ko. Again, there's a long explanation. "We wanted to ask you if you were willing to give us the permission to use your name when mentioning the things you told us. In the past, we just referred to you as an anonymous Taiwan doctor, but it is much more credible with the name. This will help the evidence. You would be doing a great service. Maybe even help save some people's lives." What is his answer? "OK. For what I say, I can be responsible." 我不相信有人可以找到這跟書上說的不一樣啦。 2014年一月,請求標明柯醫師的本名,獲得柯醫師再次同意。 這邊有很長的解釋。 “我們想問您,是否可以允許我們在提到您的故事時, 使用您的本名?過去我們提到您時,適用匿名台灣醫師, 但如果用真名會更可信。這能幫助我們證明,對我們是很大的貢獻, 甚至可以拯救到一些人。” 柯醫師的回答呢? ”OK。 我說過的話我負責。“ We ask him for a headshot for the book, and "my best wishes to you", this is Dr. Ko's response. Said the pictures for the book. Now any time in any of these three responses, he could have come back and say, "just hang on a minute." No, he did not. And actually, I don't think that speaks badly about his character. I think that speaks well of his character. I think he's actually a very honest man. 我們請他給我們一張大頭照拿來書上用,”祝你順利“, (拿出照片) 這就是柯醫師的回應,說這是給書的照片。 其實在這3次回覆中,他大可以退縮掉然後說,”欸等一下等一下“, 但他沒有。 事實上,我不認為這是他代表個性差。 我認為,這代表他的好個性。 我認為他事實上是個非常誠實的人。 ------------------------------打逐字稿打累了------------------------- 作者後面都在噴媒體有夠爛, 希望大家能真的去關注這個亂摘活人器官的問題。 -- 問君能有幾多魯? 恰似一條魯蛇向東蠕 問君何能爾? 臉醜人自魯。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 49.217.117.130 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1535998839.A.2C2.html
s8800892000: 等等補推 223.140.135.10 09/04 02:22
spiderchang: 台灣媒體就是他媽爛啊 61.228.178.235 09/04 02:22
hugr86: 媒體抹黑真的已經到指鹿為馬的階段 111.83.182.90 09/04 02:23
l2l: 當年柯p還為了這事花心力設計器官捐贈SOP111.250.166.137 09/04 02:26
greatyang: 柯文哲現在一定很傷心 114.36.215.232 09/04 02:26
s8800892000: 補推 223.140.135.10 09/04 02:27
peacesb: 政經? 為啥還有人要看這爛節目? 1.161.44.252 09/04 02:27
h3250sam: 推 42.72.207.225 09/04 02:28
wyverns: 讓他傷心的還有幾天前的510 223.137.86.60 09/04 02:28
raychin4563: 推原文與翻譯對照 223.137.83.15 09/04 02:28
WBC5566: 推 36.231.129.98 09/04 02:28
peacesb: 裡面哪個敢說是研究所學歷的? 1.161.44.252 09/04 02:28
peacesb: 原文不會讀 資料不會查 數據不會驗證 1.161.44.252 09/04 02:29
Hsicen: 幫推 42.75.152.244 09/04 02:29
peacesb: 真的該請原來的學校收回他們的學歷 1.161.44.252 09/04 02:29
wyverns: 結果只是學分…花錢買的 223.137.86.60 09/04 02:30
ocis: 馬的年底我要轉投韓國瑜,不上我也投 223.139.35.26 09/04 02:31
sunluna: 有能力的人應該幫這影片打上中文字幕 59.115.85.99 09/04 02:31
junki8957: 推126.161.116.187 09/04 02:31
h3250sam: 推 42.72.207.225 09/04 02:32
sunluna: 然後公開的社會大眾知道 作者真正的想法 59.115.85.99 09/04 02:32
vow70: 感謝翻譯 128.199.81.128 09/04 02:33
ywt: 辛苦了,翻的不錯。 40.141.174.102 09/04 02:35
opwin: 劉靜怡敢來看這篇嗎 1.168.90.144 09/04 02:36
NVIDIA: 可是作者並不是專業醫生 115.82.97.99 09/04 02:39
cynric717: 推 111.255.36.185 09/04 02:39
luluran88: 推 98.206.103.128 09/04 02:40
kkki620: 裝睡的人叫不醒,他們還會說你會不會英文 49.214.245.9 09/04 02:40
chivalry70: 三小一直噴專業醫生現任醫生???114.136.120.255 09/04 02:45
undeadmask: 柯p真的是在做好事 而且也從來沒變過 114.25.41.94 09/04 02:46
JingP: 裝死的人就算證據打臉 他依然說臉不痛 36.227.144.7 09/04 02:46
rttlac: 推 220.142.130.58 09/04 02:46
macassans: 感謝翻譯 1.174.71.223 09/04 02:48
undeadmask: 有人能把影片做字幕的話會更好流傳 114.25.41.94 09/04 02:48
Austin1104: 推111.248.245.195 09/04 02:50
yellow3621: 推 1.160.114.124 09/04 02:51
a382: 民進黨都瘋了 101.13.35.249 09/04 02:51
pinkgogo: 辛苦了 114.198.171.65 09/04 02:57
rrrroger: DPP: I don’t care198.105.221.195 09/04 02:57
max005: 太晚了可能沒辦法爆啊 1.171.42.9 09/04 02:59
HisVol: DPP: 那又如何? 說你通姦就通姦 223.137.79.208 09/04 03:02
cogito: 推這篇 感謝翻譯 114.43.130.1 09/04 03:02
ktjoane: 辛苦了 49.215.244.157 09/04 03:04
edison9311: 跟作者不是專業醫生有個屌毛關係,他 42.76.11.25 09/04 03:06
edison9311: 就是要去挖法輪功器官啊幹低能 42.76.11.25 09/04 03:06
luxaky: 試圖改變這些事的人卻被這樣抹黑 抹黑的人180.176.254.133 09/04 03:09
luxaky: 真的應該感到羞愧180.176.254.133 09/04 03:09
forgiveus: 謝謝,不然我看不懂英文 223.141.50.146 09/04 03:09
bibobibo1920: 看了很心寒,媒體把原文扭曲成什麼 36.225.136.2 09/04 03:10
bibobibo1920: 樣了... 36.225.136.2 09/04 03:10
luxaky: 而這些事都是四年前都已經查證完了 會抹這180.176.254.133 09/04 03:10
luxaky: 個的垃圾就是看輕台灣人都是金魚腦180.176.254.133 09/04 03:10
windyyw: 有證據給推 42.3.49.113 09/04 03:11
joe4643: 年底看台北人智力測驗考幾分 123.195.67.89 09/04 03:11
xxoo1199: 推 101.8.50.94 09/04 03:11
quixotic: 其實有點想哭。 125.230.88.28 09/04 03:12
rayisgreat: 大推 辛苦了 36.238.205.106 09/04 03:13
ohmama100: 作者搞不好也被民進黨花錢收買當名嘴了 218.161.65.224 09/04 03:13
ohmama100: 作者把版權賣給847,錢收多少? 218.161.65.224 09/04 03:14
ohmama100: 一本英文銷量都不好的書,中文譯本版權 218.161.65.224 09/04 03:15
ohmama100: 誰會買 218.161.65.224 09/04 03:15
yangyx: 一群沒有良心的傢伙 為了權力集體癲狂抹黑 118.163.150.94 09/04 03:16
yangyx: 柯P應該很傷心吧QQ 118.163.150.94 09/04 03:16
JoeyChen: 翻譯有心推一下113.196.146.109 09/04 03:16
HailToObov: 怎麼辦,媒體又要裝死了,改說作者噴 180.177.0.169 09/04 03:17
HailToObov: 阿伯,繼續裝作大家都不懂英文 180.177.0.169 09/04 03:17
girafa: 謝謝翻譯 223.139.34.20 09/04 03:26
walkaround: 推翻譯 61.65.245.237 09/04 03:32
colin0000123: 真的很令人心寒,努力想改變這狗屁 84.44.204.133 09/04 03:33
colin0000123: 體制卻被說成十惡不赦的人 84.44.204.133 09/04 03:34
joe199277: 真的是指鹿為馬的程度了 125.231.30.44 09/04 03:37
d74123: 真的瘋了223.137.245.240 09/04 03:37
yukiinsummer: 支持柯文哲一個一個 到死 42.72.29.142 09/04 03:41
JOHN9814: 推 123.192.114.80 09/04 03:44
JOHN9814: 想起柯說的,遇到挫折卻不失對人世的熱 123.192.114.80 09/04 03:45
JOHN9814: 情,無償做這樣的善事卻要被抹黑成這樣 123.192.114.80 09/04 03:46
newglory: 106.104.89.16 09/04 03:46
JOHN9814: ,是我早就失去對人世的熱情 123.192.114.80 09/04 03:46
amothia: 推223.136.160.187 09/04 03:47
yiayia0333: 推 115.82.160.140 09/04 04:10
yangtsur: 推 59.115.217.160 09/04 04:18
lwsun: 覺得某出版商只是想趁選舉時賺錢而已,真 223.140.36.18 09/04 04:26
lwsun: 的看不起這種人 223.140.36.18 09/04 04:27
ayaki0206: 推 175.97.4.81 09/04 04:40
supper5566: 推,台灣垃圾媒體跟政客 27.52.164.144 09/04 05:04
miloskyman: 118.171.168.47 09/04 05:49
MasCat: 垃圾藍綠 垃圾媒體 123.192.2.229 09/04 05:53
ltocute: 推 42.77.211.80 09/04 05:58
DarkHolbach: 推,英文真的很重要,不會英文就會 1.164.24.5 09/04 06:09
DarkHolbach: 被無良政客媒體帶風向 1.164.24.5 09/04 06:10
kotomi: 推,媒體亂象,真的心痛和無恥 118.169.50.172 09/04 06:15
llwopp: 原來有本人的影片 223.141.38.167 09/04 06:20
tsubakiten01: 推 42.77.210.187 09/04 06:20
innocence023: 推 36.234.49.159 09/04 06:24
ashkey: 推 203.66.222.12 09/04 06:25
dakaso: 年底用選票教訓民退黨,不要臉的髒東西 42.76.91.97 09/04 06:28
cacaca710: 推柯的勇氣 111.82.193.145 09/04 06:29
c90051kevin: 推 111.250.228.34 09/04 06:30
cocota: 現在就是DPP議員跟立委都看不懂英文辣 114.39.65.59 09/04 06:35
q65810: 推 只能說政治讓藍綠賺大錢 現在柯真打破 42.75.54.161 09/04 06:37
q65810: 他們的飯碗 所以藍綠都瘋狂了 42.75.54.161 09/04 06:38
fakeoldboy: 第二段倒數第二句應是"but…also", 翻 111.71.81.85 09/04 06:38
fakeoldboy: 「而且」是否較對? 111.71.81.85 09/04 06:38
aaron68032: 柯都被中共封殺還被抹紅真的超好笑 118.233.200.92 09/04 06:39
jackwu9999: 說個笑話:台大的教授....123.241.140.191 09/04 06:41
snowxmas: 推翻譯 119.77.225.218 09/04 06:41
philip0705: 柯黑只要無腦黑就100分了 1.200.60.60 09/04 06:41
kudo0930: 拿作者的書抹黑作者敬佩的人 dpp真屌 111.246.81.196 09/04 06:41
freeboy0818: 嗚嗚嗚,桃園人要怎麼教訓DPP 110.28.68.248 09/04 06:44
fakeoldboy: 手機看…原來翻這麼長 剛推的其實不重 111.71.81.85 09/04 06:45
fakeoldboy: 要 111.71.81.85 09/04 06:45
benjamin8312: 唉 推123.240.171.151 09/04 06:48
rutenac: 推 101.15.164.70 09/04 06:51
flow5168: NCC幹甚麼吃的 114.136.225.82 09/04 06:52
hugo11112: 台媒功能剩下抹黑了 27.247.34.227 09/04 06:52
teeeenspirit: 小說王223.140.125.108 09/04 06:52
windgaia: 推 36.228.64.8 09/04 06:53
strongguy: 年輕人不是不投票只是沒有認同對象,這123.110.221.153 09/04 07:00
sharkimage: 推 218.161.27.64 09/04 07:02
KingKingCold: 這又不是小說 這是原作者的訪談 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:04
peterlph: 推翻譯 218.173.154.90 09/04 07:06
minifish1228: 推 111.82.27.129 09/04 07:06
alcard22: 廢物柯黑根本是社會寄生蟲 27.242.168.39 09/04 07:08
cerberi: 推 42.70.75.168 09/04 07:08
f016tw: 這篇很重要啊!大推!!! 42.72.165.118 09/04 07:09
lmf770410: 柯黑:這些都是修圖的啦 42.76.29.115 09/04 07:11
f016tw: 這篇如果有好心人願意幫忙加上借用原op 42.72.165.118 09/04 07:11
f016tw: 的中文字幕,會起滿好的作用 42.72.165.118 09/04 07:11
llwopp: https://i.imgur.com/k2tOaA9.jpg 223.141.38.167 09/04 07:12
tatamishiau: 放心柯黑跟847眾冥嘴都會選擇無視繼 27.247.171.78 09/04 07:12
tatamishiau: 續跳針 27.247.171.78 09/04 07:12
llwopp: 影片是新唐人製作的 223.141.38.167 09/04 07:12
cream4260: 推影片、推翻譯!有作事還被這樣亂抹 117.19.130.239 09/04 07:13
Kurisu: DPP、柯黑、吸那吸: 哎 東剋 114.136.195.47 09/04 07:14
cream4260: 黑還冷飯熱炒,真的是險惡 117.19.130.239 09/04 07:14
llwopp: 新唐人有法輪功背景 223.141.38.167 09/04 07:14
RevAnThENeET: 人家花錢上節目啦 39.12.194.22 09/04 07:15
BlueSkyDream: 推122.116.109.197 09/04 07:15
skyhal: 60.251.244.94 09/04 07:15
sprewell2245: 推 61.65.249.98 09/04 07:16
billabcddog: 847:你們隨便找個外國人來就說是奧特 27.247.44.24 09/04 07:17
billabcddog: 曼!柯文哲我現在跟你說,我確認你的 27.247.44.24 09/04 07:17
billabcddog: 影片就是造!假!的!(手握拳頭+畫圈 27.247.44.24 09/04 07:17
billabcddog: 圈) 27.247.44.24 09/04 07:17
pinknana: 推118.161.148.234 09/04 07:19
rayray: 推 220.129.96.200 09/04 07:23
ntujokeking: 推 128.243.2.15 09/04 07:24
kbook: 推 123.195.192.79 09/04 07:25
yannicklatte: 推 101.9.225.212 09/04 07:25
tzk: 那坨祥要賣書的廣告大家不要再回應了,抹紅 180.217.216.20 09/04 07:27
tzk: 抹黑柯p的雜魚 大家回應他只會偷笑 180.217.216.20 09/04 07:27
nini2mark: 推 118.166.209.66 09/04 07:28
berice152233: 做好事結果被講成殺人犯,垃圾藍綠 42.76.199.158 09/04 07:28
berice152233: 為了選舉喪盡天良 42.76.199.158 09/04 07:29
KingKingCold: 這又不是小說 這是原作者的訪談 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:29
jerry8507: 推 42.72.108.139 09/04 07:29
jason710068: 推 210.232.14.178 09/04 07:29
ginhwa: 看完對柯醫師真的從內心感到尊敬 1.172.82.197 09/04 07:30
rrggyy1225: 阿北真的很了不起 是充滿勇氣的人 111.71.43.112 09/04 07:30
KingKingCold: 為什麼會有人跳針三小小說? 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:32
KingKingCold: 這篇作者自己的訪談到底關小說屁事? 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:32
KingKingCold: 一個一輩子都在救人的醫生,被好幾 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:35
peter4022: 推 223.136.225.50 09/04 07:35
KingKingCold: 個一輩子都在詆毀人的小人所汙蔑 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:35
KingKingCold: 這只能說是台灣的恥辱 119.18.8.112 09/04 07:35
ironkyoater: 以後有誠實的柯文哲,大概可以放心 36.228.102.13 09/04 07:35
ironkyoater: 消滅民進黨了,不用給他們機會 36.228.102.13 09/04 07:36
jooohhhn: DPP的台灣價值就是這樣 101.136.107.96 09/04 07:36
Tr3e: QQ 223.140.0.236 09/04 07:37
rutenac: 推 101.15.164.70 09/04 07:39
siangkeith: 低能噓 27.242.202.251 09/04 07:40
abc55643: 柯黑會相信的就不是柯黑了 223.141.74.112 09/04 07:42
amberini: 推 223.137.48.192 09/04 07:42
abc55643: 一群喪心病狂的垃圾 223.141.74.112 09/04 07:43
lin190ya: 推 115.82.17.186 09/04 07:44
rutenac: 快點年底,教訓冥進黨! 101.15.164.70 09/04 07:45
abc55643: 菜陰魂都不說話就是默許底下人亂搞 223.141.74.112 09/04 07:45
abc55643: 對菜來說下面的人幫我拼下屆真的很感恩 223.141.74.112 09/04 07:46
xxx63261: 推 1.175.137.197 09/04 07:47
head109: 推 111.83.74.57 09/04 07:47
abc55643: 藍綠垃圾靠媒體詐騙人民多年,幹林老師 223.141.74.112 09/04 07:47
ckrock0120: 那些人看到這些只會失明繼續找下一個 101.15.224.207 09/04 07:47
telescope: 我恨台灣媒體 111.71.59.136 09/04 07:53
kaiyoung: 民進黨找吳祥輝打這種潑糞的選戰真的有 114.43.163.209 09/04 07:53
kaiyoung: 夠噁 114.43.163.209 09/04 07:53
rbcajyh: DDP:不管啦柯文哲販賣器官 60.251.53.35 09/04 07:54
captainmm: badly是指充份地 不是個性差 1.161.237.12 09/04 07:54
wate5566: 感謝逐字稿 36.228.48.69 09/04 07:56
iamnofeeling: 推 117.19.102.47 09/04 07:56
abc55643: 為打柯而打柯不會信你的 223.141.74.112 09/04 07:57
SkySwimmer: 推140.116.102.212 09/04 07:59
mmmmmmmmmmm: 裝睡的人叫不醒 政經爛到不行 42.72.233.4 09/04 08:01
camellala: 推 111.71.49.141 09/04 08:02
waterorz: 沒良心的台灣媒體,以及永遠不會實事求 49.217.226.113 09/04 08:02
waterorz: 是的記者 49.217.226.113 09/04 08:02
dan1196: 推 125.230.37.32 09/04 08:03
OGC218: DPP 真的變好多 101.15.182.112 09/04 08:04
eightlin0108: 推逐字稿180.217.103.226 09/04 08:07
Yuta659: 這次事件讓我更看清楚柯文哲這個人,無償 49.215.145.160 09/04 08:08
Yuta659: 設計器官捐贈sop系統供台灣使用,這情操 49.215.145.160 09/04 08:08
Yuta659: ,抹黑他的這些妖魔鬼怪,你們還是自盡吧 49.215.145.160 09/04 08:08
tsao30: 推 117.19.224.103 09/04 08:10
narutotha: 智障柯黑依然無視 223.140.39.136 09/04 08:10
coolp77: 推,鄉民果然臥虎藏龍114.136.231.241 09/04 08:15
chathamcat: 逐字稿給推 71.183.206.96 09/04 08:15
tmnozjwklwn: 幹,高雄不丟資進黨不會痛拉 27.246.193.32 09/04 08:16
huger: 推翻譯,祝原po托福超福 223.139.207.33 09/04 08:16
maurice9325: 讓能做事想做事肯做事的人好好做很 49.217.4.250 09/04 08:16
kohanchen: 我流淚了 柯P是菩薩 49.217.245.72 09/04 08:16
maurice9325: 難嗎,垃圾資進黨,幹。 49.217.4.250 09/04 08:17
yoyozone: 推啦 110.26.201.112 09/04 08:19
wingstar: 綠黨就是共產黨啦 223.137.21.204 09/04 08:19
JCS15: 辛苦了 36.228.147.147 09/04 08:23
freewind4312: 謝謝你 49.218.1.96 09/04 08:23
sfafa1981: 那些電視台真該為製作出這些垃圾政論節 140.116.253.37 09/04 08:23
kinomon: 推 42.74.155.151 09/04 08:24
twins3345678: 推 223.140.216.8 09/04 08:26
cmbridge28: 逐字稿好屌 101.14.212.252 09/04 08:28
silentocean: DPP已經超越KMT在我心中的負形象 49.214.210.238 09/04 08:30
yulin0312: Push 77.180.221.86 09/04 08:32
brian900530: 智力測驗 看到時候有多少人不及格 39.12.171.55 09/04 08:33
JCS15: https://i.imgur.com/eHVb7rU.jpg 36.228.147.147 09/04 08:33
wuchao: 推 36.225.62.235 09/04 08:37
sunwit: 垃圾柯黑一定會跳過這篇175.180.109.197 09/04 08:41
Momosix: 現在傳統媒體的操弄真的很噁心 61.63.117.129 09/04 08:41
Momosix: 希望新媒體快點幹掉傳媒爭取更多話語權 61.63.117.129 09/04 08:42
srxteam0935: 綠衛兵只需要信仰不需要真相223.140.113.149 09/04 08:42
srxteam0935: 真相會傷害信仰 不可以追求223.140.113.149 09/04 08:43
srxteam0935: 綠神說太陽是繞著地球轉就不可質疑223.140.113.149 09/04 08:43
box00504: 大推 一個認真負責的人 42.72.8.22 09/04 08:45
KillLakers: 該找本人來了啦 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 111.251.45.185 09/04 08:45
nikoyaka9527: 推 101.8.148.6 09/04 08:48
Drizzle: 推 42.76.88.106 09/04 08:49
phantomjohn: 推 223.140.44.131 09/04 08:53
winnerdinner: 照天麟減魚雁真的 哈哈 拉機 60.251.139.141 09/04 08:58
boogieman: 推 110.50.150.208 09/04 08:58
joygo: 做好事被當成做壞事,越來越佩服柯的勇氣 115.82.103.53 09/04 09:00
mishiva: 柯黑會說這是假的買通的脅迫的112.208.153.136 09/04 09:00
wcmwcm: 柯p!善良勇敢! 220.141.25.133 09/04 09:02
pingwawa: 推 220.143.26.4 09/04 09:06
tsaiyt: 推180.217.110.203 09/04 09:07
ww0w0w0ww: 推 27.246.65.140 09/04 09:07
gydiaw: “我說過的話我負責” 超man 101.13.226.170 09/04 09:08
aaa0987475: 翻譯用心推 117.19.181.214 09/04 09:11
joshua830325: 冥禁黨沒救了 27.246.30.20 09/04 09:13
suckpopo: 可惡的柯文哲,難道都沒弱點?118.163.132.193 09/04 09:13
penpan17: 推 1.200.59.135 09/04 09:15
navysoider: 講真的,不告真的只是讓台灣亂象繼續 42.76.111.53 09/04 09:18
will1113: 推 118.170.2.158 09/04 09:19
Leagues: 推 114.47.40.229 09/04 09:20
thasi: 非常感人 101.15.98.254 09/04 09:23
gino801: 自己的國家自己救 不要以為DPP會救國 49.217.138.15 09/04 09:25
andy0219: 推推 27.147.49.84 09/04 09:27
denniss: 推 42.76.15.221 09/04 09:27
n1m5w8tsarp: 推 203.203.76.196 09/04 09:28
yongticle: 垃圾媒體 223.141.21.229 09/04 09:32
ms06293156: 推 180.204.51.248 09/04 09:37
Mtguide: 推 49.216.147.201 09/04 09:49
hithaman: 認真要推 111.83.248.203 09/04 09:56
kevinz77: 認真給推 60.248.142.180 09/04 10:01
best0811: 自己國家自己救 自己總統自己推~ 36.234.114.93 09/04 10:04
mogli: 推 好人好事就該給正確的評價 116.241.13.75 09/04 10:04
TitanEric: 推 39.8.171.153 09/04 10:05
kokunmai:111.255.181.208 09/04 10:15
alex9708hero: 推 39.12.158.48 09/04 10:18
ilovebooks91: 整理給推 114.44.193.71 09/04 10:18
luli0034: 推啦 幹被氣死 27.242.234.223 09/04 10:18
srxteam0935: 比起作者 食糞生物更相信847223.140.113.149 09/04 10:25
dilemma0520: 只要染上顏色都變腦殘 180.204.16.138 09/04 10:26
kuma52: 智力測驗期中考 一些人要被當了223.136.206.107 09/04 10:30
GuguLiu: 推推推 118.171.98.142 09/04 10:34
jskblack: 推 1.162.221.74 09/04 10:35
kyokozenki: 推 223.137.69.71 09/04 10:38
engnsu: 蠻難過的,認真貢獻的人卻在政壇要被抹黑 39.10.99.192 09/04 10:39
engnsu: ,數百句話也不能還他清白,人言可畏,政 39.10.99.192 09/04 10:39
engnsu: 論無良。 39.10.99.192 09/04 10:39
cloudwolf: 推 111.82.217.173 09/04 10:39
hasejun: 推 42.73.183.146 09/04 10:46
jasonpig: 推 111.71.113.100 09/04 11:03
william0612: 這絕對是deepfakes做的喇不要騙喔 1.171.166.34 09/04 11:04
s881702002: 惡意抹黑 除了傷害柯文哲也傷害作者 101.15.183.44 09/04 11:05
s881702002: 和研究員,更傷害每個勇敢對抗惡性體 101.15.183.44 09/04 11:05
s881702002: 制的人,為了選舉有夠無恥 101.15.183.44 09/04 11:06
Sammingy: 民進黨的人真是噁心 110.28.74.156 09/04 11:29
quite: 眾多媒體都淪為政治打手 真丟臉 125.227.97.73 09/04 11:44
stephanie000: 淚推 116.50.176.213 09/04 11:49
cmcmcmcm2: 媒體有本事抄這篇 42.77.235.66 09/04 11:49
sam840720: 作者到最後還推薦柯文哲作台灣的領導耶 61.239.175.91 09/04 11:50
※ 編輯: nick360320 (140.112.25.106), 09/04/2018 11:52:54
linnx: 打柯P活摘器官的真的居心叵測又低能 36.239.52.250 09/04 11:52
Syg: 推 42.77.61.130 09/04 11:59
aacs0130: 推原po用心翻譯 123.193.91.113 09/04 12:02
wema: 推 118.171.121.53 09/04 12:03
tomato8010: 推111.254.120.134 09/04 12:10
bassplayer: 投票決勝負 42.73.241.190 09/04 12:18
servy0619: 幫推!感謝翻譯,扭曲事實的人有夠噁心 42.77.226.69 09/04 12:21
miomuom: https://i.imgur.com/RY6WjQI.jpg 49.214.66.99 09/04 12:21
servy0619: ! 42.77.226.69 09/04 12:21
miomuom: https://i.imgur.com/VR1pRUC.jpg 49.214.66.99 09/04 12:27
chunglee: 推推推 110.50.157.2 09/04 12:29
chiuoerice04: 推 42.72.249.6 09/04 12:33
gfhnrtjpoiuy: 想看後續噴 223.139.31.59 09/04 12:36
beho: 推! 202.123.56.90 09/04 12:42
pian0214: 推 223.136.136.72 09/04 12:44
a0271200: 推個 42.74.50.151 09/04 12:47
beggar104: 推 101.14.196.116 09/04 12:51
jimmyzhan614: 推 1.169.142.115 09/04 13:01
tonyqw: 推 114.136.192.27 09/04 13:22
persefone: 好人難當 柯P加油 36.229.136.10 09/04 13:28
pony95159: 推 36.225.225.34 09/04 13:39
sppray: 推 42.76.138.19 09/04 13:51
danielwoody: 推推推 39.12.45.144 09/04 13:59
dokinkon: 推 117.19.113.180 09/04 14:40
stapia: 推 42.76.43.170 09/04 14:49
astrophy: 推 42.73.13.192 09/04 14:56
jason90580: 推180.217.199.228 09/04 15:14
z040404: 抵制臺媒亂象! 103.199.40.69 09/04 15:37
smonkey: ! 210.69.58.110 09/04 15:43
qazqaz: 做好事被抹成做壞事媒體也真的是夠厲害 36.225.153.9 09/04 16:13
cheng31507: 推 49.215.163.102 09/04 16:20
yehtakfc: 好人難當 柯P加油 36.232.234.230 09/04 16:39
aohvin123: 推 180.217.187.18 09/04 17:22
icome: 因為有人拒絕聯考 所以英文爛中文也不好 通 1.171.168.92 09/04 20:13
icome: 通看不懂啦 1.171.168.92 09/04 20:13
zeanmar: 推 114.36.53.229 09/04 21:56
st505: 韓跟侯上了 42.74.251.64 09/04 23:19
livewire: 在場沒有記者嗎?能發揮一下你的善良正 42.75.250.236 09/05 03:04
shaochilee: 潑完糞拍拍屁股就走 88.73.110.193 09/05 06:06
vodkaisgood: 推 219.68.127.54 09/05 15:16