Re: [轉錄][轉錄]我父親是228受難者

[eslite12 (recta sequi)]

紐約時報最不公正 李熬最聰明 蕭萬長都不微笑
(是說否認228的死納粹大概也沒辨別真偽的能力)

March 29, 1947 - New York Times
by Tillman Durdin
Formosa killings are put at 10,000

Foreigners say the Chinese slaughtered demonstrators without provocation
Nanking, March 28, Foreigners who have just returned to China from Formosa
corroborate reports of wholesale slaughter by Chinese troops and police during
anti-Government demonstrations a month ago.

These witnesses estimate that 10,000 Formosans were killed by the Chinese armed
forces. The killings were described as "completely unjustified" in view of the
nature of the demonstrations.

The anti-Government demonstrations were said to have been by unarmed persons
whose intentions were peaceful. Every foreign report to Nanking denies charges
that Communists or Japanese inspired or organized the parades.

Foreigners who left Formosa a few days ago say that an uneasy peace had been
established almost everywhere, but executions and arrests continued. Many
Formosans were said to have fled to the hills fearing they would be killed if
they returned to their homes.

Three Days of Slaughter:

An American who had just arrived in China from Taihoku said that troops from
the mainland arrived there March 7 and indulged in three days of indiscriminate
killing and looting. For a time everyone seen on the streets was shot at, homes
were broken into and occupants killed. In the poorer sections the streets were
said to have been littered with dead. There were instances of beheadings and
mutilation of bodies, and women were raped, the American said.

Two foreign women, who were near at Pingtung near Takao, called the actions of
the Chinese soldiers there a "massacre." They said unarmed Formosans took over
the administration of the town peacefully on March 4 and used the local radio
station to caution against violence.

Chinese were well received and invited to lunch with the Formosan leaders.
Later a bigger group of soldiers came and launched a sweep through the streets.
The people were machine gunned. Groups were rounded up and executed. The man
who had served as the town's spokesman was killed. His body was left for a day
in a park and no one was permitted to remove it.

A Briton described similar events at Takao, where unarmed Formosans had taken
over the running of the city. He said that after several days Chinese soldiers
from an outlying fort deployed through the streets killing hundreds with
machine-guns and rifles and raping and looting. Formosan leaders were thrown
into prison, many bound with thin wire that cut deep into the flesh.

Leaflets Trapped Many

The foreign witnesses reported that leaflets signed with the name of
Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek promising leniency, and urging all who had fled
to return, were dropped from airplanes. As a result many came back to be
imprisoned or executed. "There seemed to be a policy of killing off all the
best people," one foreigner asserted. The foreigners' stories are fully
supported by reports of every important foreign embassy or legation in Nanking.

Formosans are reported to be seeking United Nations' action on their case. Some
have approached foreign consuls to ask that Formosa be put under the
jurisdiction of Allied Supreme Command or be made an American protectorate.
Formosan hostility to the mainland Chinese has deepened. Two women who
described events at Pingtung said that when Formosans assembled to take over
the administration of the town they sang "The Star Spangled Banner."

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推 ttk620:死亡人數的數字真的這麼重要?..."= =)a
推 llat:有阿..不說嚴重一點怎麼騙選票..
→ rutice:嗯...(快點推文假裝都看完了)
→ nawussica:死納粹?
→ nawussica:不過這篇的死亡人數倒跟請領補償的人數差不多
→ Mailaddress:有綠吱吱說死了兩百萬人耶.............
噓 darksaber:要說納粹,誰比得過陳水扁和牠的挺貪腐黨?
推 amovie:還沒包含接下來的清鄉就有一萬  統媒都說只有幾千人
→ ttk620:突然發現 裡面的地名拼音還是沿用日治時期耶 挺酷的...
→ w0421:該刪了吧...鬧政治的又跑出來了
→ nawussica:懶的戰 想知道正確數字的請向228協會申請資料
推 williams1986:這個也須也包刮外省人喔??
→ hyper5:這下子O板主會清版面清到很累..問他要不要隱版2天冷靜一下
推 sukisam:歷史的教訓是要大家記得並且不再犯錯，而不是仇恨重蹈覆轍
推 eslite12:台灣有些納粹雜種好像一直自我感覺良好喔
→ Mailaddress:三立拿會拿上海的圖案來作假喔 顆顆
→ nawussica:不過228協會不會給的....
推 ppit12345:這邊德系的好像只有一個人(苦笑).何苦自爆呢
推 MerinoSheep:一堆無厘頭扯東扯西的推文出現了
→ ppit12345:沒辦法(喝茶).上面有個人一直推說"廢文"
推 lee281114:看來又要戰了
推 amovie:領補償人數=228被害者人數    早被推翻怎麼又在凹
推 ppit12345:因為被扯太遠了(尤其到了這篇)
→ eslite12:有些在台灣獨裁五十年的法西斯餘孽好像看不懂英文
推 MerinoSheep:10,000 Formosans were killed by the Chinese armed
→ ppit12345:法西斯現在在樓上右轉,...........
→ MerinoSheep:forces 前面不是一堆人拿李敖的說法硬說只有800多人去
→ MerinoSheep:領補償 所以只有800多人被殺嗎？
→ ppit12345:一萬多人?照高雄來看都沒那麼少(笑)問題是第一篇在說啥
→ ppit12345:到了這篇在說啥,真是心有政治,文有政治化
推 eslite12:李敖不凹就不是李敖了 反正隨他叫的畜牲通常中英文皆差
推 amovie:March 29, 1947   一天內有一萬人死亡  接下來呢????
推 MerinoSheep:March 29 三月二十九日 amovie英文不及格
→ ppit12345:(搔搔頭)看樣子有德系納粹殘黨在擾人耳目了
→ sukisam:有個人嘴巴好髒......
→ ppit12345:MS建議把本文看完再說....
→ lee281114:pp兄有高見的話直接點出來好了 何必賣關子
推 damhis: 餘孽
推 ppit12345:其實沒事XD我看錯MS的意思了,amovie沒搞懂是一個月的量
推 nightcatman:所有的暴行都該被譴責 軍隊屠殺是暴行,暴民屠殺也是
→ nightcatman:請捫心自問 是不是為了藍綠,就對另一方的暴行視而不見
→ eslite12:樓上在指控紐約時報對"本省暴民"視而不見? 還是你英文爛?
→ nightcatman:我在說某些鄉民 你去扯紐約時報 有你的 抹黑手法真高
→ eslite12:這篇的內文你就是沒看或看不懂嘛
推 nightcatman:噗 我說的和這篇的內文哪邊衝突? 你說說看?
推 ppit12345:抹黑是納粹黨衛軍最會做的事之一啊(喝茶)
推 SSyia:暴行是該被譴責  但人民暴行跟主政者暴行譴責程度是不同的
推 nightcatman:譴責的程度不同ok,例如40:60, 但我看到的大多是0:100
推 eslite12:某位納粹同路人只要翻一下第一段二三小段的簡單英文就好
推 nightcatman:第一段第二三小段和我說的有哪邊衝突? 明白一點講嘛
→ nightcatman:在那邊閃閃躲躲兼扣帽的算什麼呢? 是吧?
推 ianlin45:要翻不會自己翻 弄個落落長的英文在那裡裝模作樣
推 nightcatman:怎麼還沒出來講清楚啊 等得快睡著了...............
→ nightcatman:呵呵 落落長的英文沒差啦 我每天身邊都是落落長的英文
→ nightcatman:ptt是我唯一可以打中文字的地方  ^_^
→ nightcatman:不每天上來訓練中文會退步的很快 (其實我已經退步了)
→ nightcatman:等超過10分鐘了耶~~~e大 ~~~ 你在哪啊?~~~
→ aida:"目擊者估計".....這樣的報導很準確嘛??????????
→ aida:數字是目擊者估計出來的    中台人愛用誇示法又不是一天的事
→ aida:這樣的報導可以拿出來當證據的話   看新聞的人真的很不動腦了
噓 YAUN:八卦原po吃掉了？
噓 flyover01:啊就是"路人說",這也可以當證據?