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第5名 薩滿 Within the span of month, Shaman has had some of its highest highs as well as some lowest lows. After the Tinkmaster nerf in particular, Shaman suddenly became one of the only classes in the game that could "Hex" an opposing creature. In fact, Shaman was one of the only classes that didn't run Tinkmaster by default prepatch. With the ability to easily deal with Cairne Bloodhoof and the many Handlocks that were fairly popular at the time, Shaman looked like a top class. 幾個月之內 薩滿不斷經歷了最巔峰和最低潮 在技工大師削弱之後 薩滿瞬間成為遊戲中僅存能"妖術"對方手下的職業之一 事實上 薩滿是唯一一個在之前的版本中就不帶技工大師的職業 由於能夠輕鬆對付凱恩血蹄和當時時下正流行的巨人術 薩滿看起來像是一流職業 In addition, a few innovations to the class helped it grow even further, most notably the addition of Doomhammer to Shaman decks. Doomhammer was an extremely efficient control card that a lot of versatility built in. Not only did it have the potential for extreme value over 4+ turns, it had the ability to burn down the opponent with a surprise burst in combination with Rockbiter Weapon. Similar to the Shaman version of Gorehowl, the value alone from Doomhammer could single-handedly win games especially in the mid-range or control matchups. At this point, Shamans were at the top of the world. 另外 這個職業的一些創新使之地位水漲船高 最值得一提的就是薩滿牌組中 末日錘的加入 末日錘是個本身就非常靈活 特別有用的控制牌 不僅是他有持續超過4+回合的超值潛力 他還有能力配合石化武器去突然爆發對手一波 像是薩滿版本的血吼之斧 光是末日錘本身的價值就足以贏下對戰 特別是對付中速或控制牌組 在這個時間點 薩滿根本世界最強 However, partly because of this Doomhammer popularity, Ooze and Harrison Jones became more commonly seen. Ooze was almost tolerable(despite the 7 mana tempo disadvantage), but if a Harrison Jones destroyed your Doomhammer, it was often a blowout, so much so that within the past few weeks, Doomhammer usage has dropped significantly because of this slight metagame shift. And with that one of Shaman's most popular and valuable cards became unusable for the time. 然而 軟泥怪和哈里遜瓊斯逐漸變得普及 有部分原因也是因為末日錘的流行 軟泥怪勉強可以忍受(除去7點法力的節奏劣勢不看) 但哈里遜瓊斯摧毀你的末日錘 這通常就是大爆炸 幾乎也是因為這個些微的meta變動 在過去幾週末日錘的使用率明顯下降 因此那段時間 薩滿最流行最有價值的牌之一 漸漸變得無法使用 And if that weren't enough, then came the Hunters. You'll notice that the classes with the biggest changes in rank between last month and this month are Hunter and Shaman; this is not a coincidence. As players began to figure out more effective ways to play Hunter and the class became more popular on ladder, Shamans were faced with a startling problem. You see, the Hunter vs Shaman matchup is one of, if not the THE most one-sided matchup in the game. Shaman's distinct lack of healing and relative lack of early-game aggressive options makes them hard pressed against the Hunters that always seem to put Shaman on a timer. So as Hunter usage rose, the number of Shamans dropped accordingly. 如果這些原因還不夠 那就算進獵人吧 你要了解到上個月和這個月之間 排行變動最大的職業就是獵人跟薩滿 這並非巧合 因為玩家開始了解到更有效玩獵人的方法 而這個職業漸漸在天梯上變得普及 薩滿就遭遇了一個大問題 你知道 獵人vs薩滿這個對抗 或許是全遊戲最一面倒的組合之一 薩滿明顯缺乏治療 也相對缺乏前期侵略的選項 使得他們面對獵人時備感壓力 因此獵人的使用率上升 薩滿的使用率下降 The bright side of it all is that the metagame is currently readjusting itself to deal with all the Hunters. You see Taunts, heals, and anti-weapon cards everywhere, all designed to flush out the Hunters. Once the numbers of Hunters die down a bit, Shaman can return to being one of the top classes in the game. 好在在這個meta下 所有的職業都在為了對付滿滿的獵人而重新調整中 你到處都可以看到嘲諷 治療和反制武器類的牌 全都是為了幹掉獵人 當獵人的數量下降了些 薩滿就可以重新回到遊戲中的一線職業 -monk 本區作者 Decks: 範例牌組 MITJDW Shaman http://0rz.tw/xeTvv -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.60.246.197 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hearthstone/M.1397970635.A.402.html
linceass :當時玩控制OTK薩就是用來對付戰士跟小d 獵人氾濫後忍 04/20 13:37
linceass :痛棄玩 04/20 13:37
jayin07 :希望這季還是能用薩滿爬到傳說... 04/20 13:47
Aggro :其實是賽制問題 比賽的話BO5 BO7就很適合帶薩滿當解 04/20 13:47
Aggro :天梯這種滿地獵人的就... 04/20 13:47
jayin07 :主要是禿鷹跟放狗太強勢了 04/20 13:55
jayin07 :這種低耗combo抽牌加上清場還有追蹤加速濾牌 04/20 13:56
jayin07 :對上除了戰士的職業都很致命 04/20 13:57
jayin07 :加上最近發展出的kolento流 對戰士的勝率顯著提高 04/20 13:58
jayin07 :讓獵人變得相當全面 04/20 13:58
ProtossZX :話說不論是高手排名還是數據 都是術士最高啊 04/20 14:01
ProtossZX :獵人OP的話 術士就是神了 04/20 14:02
jayin07 :嗯~ 04/20 14:17
alexjetertw :薩滿現在r5,只期待德戰多一點QQ 04/20 14:23
linceass :這邊單純講獵人對薩滿的影響 扯個術士更op幹嘛... 04/20 14:23
linceass :至少以前打巨人,ZOO,漁人或生物快攻都沒有獵人般無力 04/20 14:24
ProtossZX :新型獵人對薩滿來說應該相對快攻好打了 妖術有東西可 04/20 14:30
ProtossZX :以丟 開心 04/20 14:30
Dimitre :被放狗爽抽傻滿還是只能吃土 04/20 14:47
ProtossZX :有被放狗抽爽的不會吃土的職業嗎? 04/20 14:48
mp3w69 :重點還是在薩滿的圖騰對獵人有用的就那兩個... 04/20 15:08
mp3w69 :天生技被剋死死 04/20 15:11
jayin07 :不只獵人啊 從第三季開始盜賊大量減少跟獵人也有關係 04/20 15:22
ProtossZX :不過最慘的牧師都有人打上傳說了 樓上不用擔心 04/20 15:24
roalan :薩滿至少還可以虐德魯伊阿 德魯伊蠻多 04/20 15:24
ProtossZX :從數據看 薩滿8職有5職勝率高過50% OK的 04/20 15:26
jayin07 :這季德魯伊token流的德魯伊可以和薩滿大約55波 04/20 15:33
jayin07 :你們說的數據,四月份的還沒出來 04/20 15:33
jayin07 :這也是為什麼這些職業選手把薩滿往下拉了三名 04/20 15:33
ProtossZX :再不濟薩滿還有控制戰可以虐 04/20 15:34
jayin07 :首篇附的是三月份的全球統計 04/20 15:35
jayin07 :我這三天總共打了96場薩滿,德魯伊最多遇到26場 04/20 15:37
jayin07 :第二術士19場、第三獵人12場、戰士9場 04/20 15:37
ProtossZX :這篇也是10+天前的了 4月統計如何還很難講 04/20 15:38
jayin07 :.... 04/20 15:39
WisestCat :我覺得沒官方數據還是只能參考一下而已 畢竟那是整合 04/20 15:39
WisestCat :數據 若能有例如官方r5以上對戰的數據會更能反應現況 04/20 15:39
scarbywind :圖騰不是無用,是變成放狗的糧食.. 04/20 21:07
scarbywind :不然在無用火舌阿古斯下去還是個好東西 04/20 21:07
mp3w69 :沒抽到火舌 阿古斯就是無用沒錯阿XD 04/20 21:26
mp3w69 :不然獵人對到薩滿 怎會認為是送汾題XD 04/20 21:27
CMC677 :講到技工就令人哀傷 04/20 21:29
scarbywind :有還是送分,這樣大概堆3隻up,放狗印記狼表示愉悅 04/20 21:45
scarbywind :不過不耗他法力去解你的場大概T7就GG.. 04/20 21:46
scarbywind :在R5左右打贏的獵人大部分都是前期用火舌跟阿古斯 04/20 21:47
scarbywind :搶到血量跟場優 04/20 21:47
scarbywind :不過勝率3成不到orz 04/20 21:48