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來源 http://www.ebsports.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=1465396 The art of trash-talking April, 20, 2011Apr 203:35PM ETEmailPrintComments32By Player XPlayer X is an anonymous NBA star. This is his fourth column. 某位不具名的巨星級球員, 炮了以下這篇文章 THERE ISN'T ENOUGH trash-talking in this league, and we're the worse for it. Players are just too buddy-buddy; a lot of us grew up together in AAU ball and have remained friends. Because of that, the NBA basically looks like the cool-kid clique in high school. 這個聯盟, 需要更高級的嘴砲 現如今球場垃圾話已經不再那麼流行了 而且這些球員們說垃圾話的能力也比前輩差了十萬八千里 很多球員都情同手足,很多人 是高中或大學校友、要麼一起在AUU聯盟打過球 即使是現在也保持著好友的關係。 也因為這樣,現在的聯盟看起來更像是高中那些乖小子團體一樣。 Christian Peterson/Getty Images "Show me a trash-talker, and I'll show you a winner," says Player X. "Unless his initials are KG."I miss the loud old days. A few decades ago, in the heyday of trash, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and the Knicks couldn't shut up. Those guys all played with emotion, and that fuels the best trash-talk. It's no coincidence that some of the best ball ever seen was played during the top trash-talking era. "垃圾話系咱冠軍a希望" X 球員補充道 除非依ㄟ名叫"KG"(勿戰) 他非常懷念那段吵鬧的時光 在幾十年前, 好多好多的球員都會說垃圾話 Jordan, Bird 還有尼克的那群傢伙 總是講個不停 這些傢伙打球總是帶著激情, 因而激出無限創意的垃圾話 要知道, 在垃圾話橫行年代,一些經典好球的出現絕非偶然 When players hold their tongues, the league is boring. And we've been quiet too long. I blame all the foreign guys. They don't like confrontation. I don't know many who can talk trash, or even try. The refs are at fault too. A lot of the T's you see called are preemptive; refs hear some noise and blow the whistle before it escalates. If you ask me, they're trying to take the "black" out of the game. Besides Bird, all the great trash-talkers have been black. We were born talking trash. They want to silence us, but that's like telling a bunny to stop jumping. The bunny can't help it. 當球員們都閉嘴時,這個聯盟簡直無聊爆了,我們安靜太久了 我在這邊譴責那些外籍球員 他們不喜歡碰撞,我都不知道有幾個垃圾話浮的上檯面的 他們連試都不敢 裁判也是 每次看到稍微有個風吹草動,裁判就先發制人跳出來了 如果你問我的看法, 我會說他們會想把"黑"這個因子給踢出聯盟 除了大鳥之外, 所有的偉大的垃圾話球員都是黑人 我們生來就是講垃圾話的 他們想要我們閉嘴, 但這就像妳要邦妮兔不要跳一樣 甘五科能! The lack of on-court chatter is bad because it's such a good way to get in an opponent's head and rattle him. A player's manhood is always fair game; question that, in language they won't let me use here, and see how he responds. Great trash-talkers also love talking junk about another guy's finances. It doesn't always work, though. Legend has it Gary Payton, who vets say talked an endless stream of trash, once told Jordan that he drove a better car than MJ. "The cars I got are just like yours," Jordan replied. "Except mine were free." That cracks me up. 在場上不能碎碎念的缺點就是 妳沒辦法把妳的對手弄到精...血衝腦 球場上球員永遠能公平地展現他們的男子氣概 但是現在 聯盟卻不准我們再多嘴砲 高等的嘴砲球員有時候也會拿對方的經濟狀況來攻擊 經典的就像Gary Payton 嗆Jordon說他有錢買法拉利了 Jordan 說我也是開法拉利 只是是法拉利公司送我的 "聽到的時候我實在是爽爆了!" X球員說 Trash-talk can go too far fast, though, so there is a code. Off-limit topics: moms, wives, girlfriends, kids. And health. Honestly, I never thought anyone would cross the line to crack on an opponent about a medical condition. But according to Charlie Villanueva, that's what Kevin Garnett supposedly did earlier this season when he called the Pistons forward a "cancer patient." Garnett later claimed otherwise, saying he had called Villanueva -- who's hairless because of a skin condition -- a "cancerous" player. 雖然那時垃圾話球員砲個樂此不疲 但有些地雷還是不能踩的: 人家的老母啦, 老婆啦, 女友啦,小孩 歐, 還有健康 老實說我還沒有聽過哪個球員攻擊對手的身體健康狀況 但季初的 無眉道人事件 KG 居然嗆無眉道人 是"癌症患者" 這就太超過了 雖然他後來有解釋, 說道人對於隊伍來說是個"癌因子" I don't know who's telling the truth, but I don't care. Garnett is a punk and a coward. I know, I know. Easy for me to say behind this column. Don't worry, I'll tell him to his face, too. And I'm not the only one who thinks that: If you're not on his team, chances are you hate the guy. You can learn a lot about him by watching his eyes. If he's talking to you -- and he's always talking -- he avoids eye contact. My advice to other guys in the league: Stare him down, and he'll retreat. From what I've seen, he'll never mix it up with a player who's bigger than he is. Personally, I think he's scared to fight -- like a playground bully who barks but doesn't bite. "我是不知道誰說的才是實話啦, 但我很潮, 所以 I Don't Care!" (接下來KG迷可以 選擇忽視不看) KG只不過是個痞子和膽小鬼而已 我知道你一定會說"你還不是只敢匿名在人家背後說" 所以別擔心, 下次我遇到他,我一定當面嗆他 而且,我也不是唯一一個這樣想的人 你從他的眼神中可以看出很多事情 如果他在砲你(而且他也總是在那邊垃圾話) 他總是會迴避你的眼神 所以我建議聯盟中的球員, 下次他再砲你不爽 你就直接瞪著他的眼睛 他就會鼻子摸摸 不敢作聲 而且據我的觀察 這傢伙從來不敢嗆比他大隻的人 個人認為他根本就不敢幹架, 說難聽一點, 他就不過是會吠不會咬人的X 而已 But I have to admit, the Celtics are the most talkative guys in the league. And that makes sense, because it's the mark of a championship team. Mouths help you win big games. Ray Allen got mean in Boston, and Paul Pierce will look at you, say, "Stop this," then drop a J on your head. 但是我得承認, 超賽是最會講垃圾話的翹楚 但這也滿有道理的, 因為這就是冠軍隊的象徵 在重要的比賽中, 嘴砲幫助你贏得勝利 Ray Allen 到賽隊後越來越會嘴砲了 而Pierce 則會在進攻時看著你說 "幹不要鬧了" 然後輕鬆在你頭上跳投得分(Drop a J 是 Drop a Jump-Shot的縮寫) The Lakers aren't as good at it, but the defending champs have an edge over most other teams because Kobe can talk with the best of them while he lights you up and Ron Artest is just weird. One reason he's a great defender is he'll get way too close and whisper in your ear. 湖人就沒那麼會嘴砲了 但他們還是能捍衛他們的衛冕者寶座 因為Kobe盯上你的時候,你就準備要被砲了(勿戰) 阿泰基本上不過是個怪咖, 但是他能夠當最佳防守者頭銜是因為他會貼的你很近 而且在你耳邊"絲絲細語" The things that make all of these guys good talkers -- passion, a mean streak -- are what also make them great basketball players. Not surprisingly, some of the quietest guys happen to be ringless. Chris Bosh, for one, never says a word. LeBron? Even when he does talk, he's terrible at it. 讓這家傢伙變成嘴砲達人的原因: 激情 更深一層的來說, 這也是他們成為偉大球員的原因 所以, 有些安靜的傢伙一個戒指都拿不到也不是沒有道理 Bosh: 永遠都馬安安靜靜的 Lebron? 就算他會嘴砲, 這種事情還是很講求天分低~ Want to get to "The King" and some other prime-time players? Here's one man's go-to material: Drop a "you're riding coattails" on LeBron or remind him he bailed on the Cavs to buy a ring. Mention Dwight Howard's J -- or lack of one; it never fails to piss him off. Call Kobe a fake Jordan. (Just beware you may get posterized for the rest of the game.) Don't bother with Tim Duncan; dude can't hear a thing and never gets rattled. But feel free to remind Tony Parker that "Eva is fine"; wives are over the line, but not exes. Tell Pierce his one ring was all luck. Then have one of your bigger guys step to KG. 你想要成為嘴砲王或是黃金檔球員?? 簡單~ 這裡有一個真男人的教戰手則: 下次碰到Lebron 的時候 就跟他說 "不要再靠別人了啦" (這句話酸得滿高明的,coattails 本身還有"裙帶關係"的意思" 或者是說"嘿, 背叛克利夫蘭有沒有為你贏得一枚戒指啊" 碰到魔獸就要跟他說 "靠都幾年了還不會跳投喔" 而且每次他都會生氣, 超有效 碰到Kobe 就說 "你這個偽喬丹" 只是你要小心接下來的比賽會被凌虐的很慘 碰到石佛...... 算了 他什麼也聽不進去 碰到 Parker 就說 "Eva過得不錯喔" (老婆是不能提, 但前妻沒關係) 碰到 PP 就跟他說 "還不是靠運氣啦!" 然後派一隻大隻一點的隊友往KG去.....(KG 怕事論) I love trash talk. 我愛垃圾話 ----------------------------------------------- Duncan: 我只用微笑就能搞火裁判喔^.< -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.32.79.128 ※ 編輯: Invincibleme 來自: 114.32.79.128 (04/28 22:01)
zsh :垃圾話本來就籃球的一部分 可惜在本版也要逐漸消失了 04/28 22:02
sinrong :我猜是 04/28 22:02
zhu107111 :真男人表示: 04/28 22:02
Phatmen :本版的這些不是垃圾話 是謾罵跟人身攻擊吧 04/28 22:02
lhyjojo :讚 04/28 22:03
angelmax :這篇蠻有趣的 04/28 22:03
musichour :他什麼都聽不進去XD TD:恩..你剛有說話? 04/28 22:03
Mrbusy :有笑有分 04/28 22:03
vity :我猜八克利 04/28 22:03
handfoxx :有笑有推 04/28 22:03
hchs31705 :XD 04/28 22:04
ssun302231 :太屌了這篇 石佛什麼都聽不進去啊!!!xXDDDDDDDD 04/28 22:04
d88647511 :湖賽熱都被錶了 該不會是皮本吧XD 04/28 22:04
Yao1218 :XDDDDD 04/28 22:04
hit10116 :JG應該是打錯吧 在無眉道人那邊 04/28 22:05
f22 :應該是老皮沒錯。96年在決賽場上聽到大哥的經典嘴砲 04/28 22:05
jarvisbrett :有笑有推 04/28 22:05
handsome01 :雖然我是KG迷但還是給推!!這個人真酷!!好想知道是誰 04/28 22:06
avrilrock :拿壞掉的飲料對付石佛 04/28 22:06
rex9999 :我猜是科比 04/28 22:06
karater :讚 04/28 22:07
iversonok :這篇不錯!XD 04/28 22:07
jghs121 :TD真男人 04/28 22:07
LJ77 :推 有藝術的垃圾話少了 當初郵差假日不送信是經典 04/28 22:07
azndevil26 :嘴砲的巨星90年代有名的Jordan Miller 老巴 手套 真 04/28 22:07
zealeliot :推 零容忍真是爛政策 場外球迷都沒有嘴泡話題了 04/28 22:07
azndevil26 :的很多阿 哈哈 04/28 22:07
CerMerlan :好笑XD 04/28 22:08
tna :哈哈! 有笑有推~~~ 04/28 22:08
airwave11 :這篇作者應該是個湖人迷吧... 04/28 22:09
lcy317 :MJ那個超好笑 04/28 22:10
Anubias :KG XDDD 04/28 22:11
yuran :不知道NBA垃圾話最盛行的時代和現在的PTT誰比較嘴 04/28 22:11
dioliv :哈~感覺應該是這幾年還有再打的球星吧~XD 04/28 22:11
ericlive :Scott P 04/28 22:12
mr81lakers :作者是球員 第一行就寫了 04/28 22:12
Maxslack :XDDDDDDDD幹 超好笑的 04/28 22:12
thindust :竟然沒有人猜是shaq呀 嘴砲文不提他就很怪了對超賽提 04/28 22:13
thindust :了也不算少事 而且他也不怕砲自己人 04/28 22:13
Dracunculus :好聞GOOD 04/28 22:13
SunDing :對付石佛就是要逗他笑啊~~~ 04/28 22:13
Maxslack :而且是巨星級球員欸 巨星級就那幾個 04/28 22:13
mr81lakers :老皮怎麼知道Bosh跟LBJ? 他沒有跟他們對抗過吧 04/28 22:13
BrentRoy :...感覺是歐肥 04/28 22:14
Maxslack :真的算得上巨星級的老牌球星有誰啊? 04/28 22:14
name80274 :Eva is fine 04/28 22:14
mr81lakers :我也猜是大歐 04/28 22:15
dioliv :我也想猜歐肥~可是他又一直酸KG感覺又不太對XD 04/28 22:15
ace7449 :歐肥吧... 04/28 22:15
psychoF :推 SunDing :對付石佛就是要逗他笑啊~~~ 超賤XDD 04/28 22:15
beaune :抄好笑XDDD 04/28 22:15
rex852753 :推!!! 尤其是TD 算了 他什麼也聽不進去!!!! XDDD 04/28 22:16
froghunter :這人應該是禁區球員 而且應該比KG大隻 04/28 22:17
psychoF :是SHAQ感覺很多地方說的通@@ 可是也有地方怪怪的 04/28 22:17
flysky198408:喬神 手套都提到了 該不會是神米吧! 04/28 22:17
chienen :這篇超好笑XD 04/28 22:17
kksun0322 :老巴應該不會沒種到匿名吧!!! 04/28 22:17
howsiao :好文啦 哈哈哈哈哈 04/28 22:17
rexagi1988 :甚麼都聽不進去阿XDDDDDD 04/28 22:17
dch44dyw :TD:... 04/28 22:18
chiusna :後面超靠杯的XDDDD 04/28 22:18
changtso :太強了 翻譯跟原文意思差很多 04/28 22:18
peardog :有可能是歐瑞嗎? 04/28 22:18
ken129 :TD那邊我笑了 XD 04/28 22:18
ken129 :如果是SHAQ應該不會匿名 04/28 22:19
wilson78225 :不是歐肥吧,他還在Celtics不會幹這種事,以他的個性 04/28 22:19
camelma :Eva is fine 是這樣翻嗎 XD 04/28 22:19
pingmau2004 :有笑有推 真的超好笑XDDD 04/28 22:20
wilson78225 :找一個跟KG有過節,而且還過節的很有名的比較可能 04/28 22:20
godsing :KIDD?? 04/28 22:20
Faith1128 :感覺是搖擺人耶... 04/28 22:20
qrwtey :馬龍? 04/28 22:20
Faith1128 :Carter?? TMAC?? Hill?? 04/28 22:21
tonypong :應該不是大歐 他不會嗆魔獸不會跳投 他自己也不會阿. 04/28 22:21
game7895 :會不會是老漁啊 XD 04/28 22:21
namon :超好笑 怎麼會這麼trash 04/28 22:21
Maxslack :應該是比較老牌的搖擺人 04/28 22:21
noncolor :Paul Pierce 有說「幹」嗎?哈哈~ 04/28 22:21
makeover :大歐現在跟KG.PP.Ray gun同隊..會這樣說嗎? 04/28 22:21
tupacshkur :XD 04/28 22:22
Maxslack :因為他有提到找大隻點的隊友去擋KG 而不是自己去擋 04/28 22:22
makeover :照慣例大歐都是先褒一頓等轉隊後再來酸xd 04/28 22:22
noIDuse :應該是Pip沒錯 老巴跟歐肥不可能匿名XDDDD 04/28 22:24
tonypong :巴克利可能性比較大 巴克利曾嗆過外籍人 不然就皮朋 04/28 22:24
syt1112 :借轉微笑佛版 04/28 22:24
mr81lakers :可是老皮沒跟LBJ對抗過吧? 他怎麼知道 04/28 22:24
syt1112:轉錄至看板 Spurs 04/28 22:24
laogiby :Pip啦 老巴跟歐肥就直接開砲了 哪跟你匿名 科科 04/28 22:25
sl1nges4 :快笑死了!!!! 04/28 22:25
freijaking :推 可惜在LBJ話太多後現在聯盟走乖寶路線 這篇沒用 04/28 22:25
s4340392 :推 04/28 22:25
howsiao :感覺是有被阿泰守過的阿 才知道會被貼耳朵 04/28 22:26
laogiby :反正覺得是搖擺人 打禁區的中間那段KG就說不通了 04/28 22:27
handsomecat :喵的都屎藤害的  04/28 22:27
eugene7983 :但前妻沒關係....XDDDD 04/28 22:28
ken129 :還是巨星級球員 04/28 22:28
howsiao :這篇原文是出於ESPN雜誌一個開給 NBA 球員寫的專欄 04/28 22:28
chancewen :XDD 04/28 22:29
meowwoo :水喔! 04/28 22:29
hump :可是帕克他們不是復合了= = 04/28 22:29
Phantompain :Player X 04/28 22:29
hiphopviva :"靠都幾年了還不會跳投喔" XDDD 04/28 22:30
quwuwudkdk :小孩不能嗆 那能在D.WEST面前講LBJ嗎..... 04/28 22:30
ken129 :CP3? 04/28 22:30
gto0322 :垃圾話 會激起對手的競爭心 會想討回來 不管是言語 04/28 22:30
rayleee :XDDDD 老婆不能提 提前妻!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04/28 22:31
gto0322 :或是球技~所以在那個年代垃圾話多~精采好球自然也多 04/28 22:31
tree99 :喔對我超喜歡 JORDON時代的 垃圾話 因為愈罵愈強 04/28 22:31
eternalzero :超好笑的XDDd 04/28 22:32
gto0322 :常常會把上一分鐘對你說垃圾話的人~下一分鐘你在他頭 04/28 22:32
gto0322 :上爆灌~看這不是多激情的嗎?現在的零容忍!真的是____ 04/28 22:33
PureTrue :匿名還蠻沒種的 應該是pippen 難怪只能當老二 04/28 22:33
chu630 :垃圾推文也在慢慢消失 總版的可看性也變低了 04/28 22:33
herohoney :這篇棒阿!! 04/28 22:33
pheather :ESPN Player X blog http://goo.gl/DvVwY 04/28 22:33
angus7639 :可以借轉fb嗎 感謝 04/28 22:34
zBen :這篇超好笑XDDDDD 04/28 22:34
pheather :不過是 Insider 得付錢才看得到 04/28 22:34
Amilous :我還是猜大歐 科科 04/28 22:34
johnsondx :算了 他什麼也聽不進去 不愧是石佛 04/28 22:35
howsiao :因為那專欄也會登在雜誌上, 所以要收費 04/28 22:35
j003862001 :應該不是大歐 不然他怎會需要等機會遇到KG才能嗆他 04/28 22:35
semicoma :不一定真的是NBA球員講的吧? 04/28 22:35
lakers31522 :推 04/28 22:35
SexyCassell :讚 04/28 22:35
nisiya0625 :安啦 一堆老人退休後 垃圾話就跟零容忍一樣變零啦 04/28 22:36
by0413 :大歐這麼懂得做人 要砲也是離隊後... 04/28 22:36
PlayPtt ::) 04/28 22:36
Amilous :現在是隊友當然不能嗆 明年就不一定啊 04/28 22:36
psychoF :PIP是有嗆過DH嘛... 沒有吧 04/28 22:36
abcdDBG :Eva is fine => Eva我也用過,蠻緊的...這樣翻才賤XD 04/28 22:36
LIKAA :我也覺得是老皮,因為前面有點到以前的mj和尼客隊 04/28 22:37
bojatom :我猜是FOX 04/28 22:37
rockman73 :XDDDD 04/28 22:38
aidsai :讚這篇 ^^ 04/28 22:38
pheather :挖不到他的前三篇文章,不然應該會有蛛絲馬跡... 04/28 22:38
tree99 :抱歉了 我沒仔細看內文 @@ 04/28 22:38
semicoma :你直接google "nba player x"就找得到其他篇了 04/28 22:38
shangming :讚!!! 04/28 22:39
codie :哈哈 04/28 22:39
polucan :KG反串啦XD 04/28 22:39
F7 :老巴? 04/28 22:40
howsiao :KG反串 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 04/28 22:41
aeolus1215 :我笑了... 04/28 22:42
johnny04a :這篇太帥了!!!!!!!!!!!! 04/28 22:42
hope452162 :嗆KB你需要多投一點,然後他會瘋狂自幹 04/28 22:44
Invincibleme:請自由轉 04/28 22:45
dscndg :超好笑 04/28 22:45
kimimskimi :KG反串吧~ 04/28 22:45
albon :XDD 可惜..史騰主導的聯盟太愛搶錢 講太多垃圾話 04/28 22:45
howlong :"Wanna be Jordan? Bitch!!!!" 然後某人就爆走了 04/28 22:46
albon :可能會被罰款 裁判權力又大 04/28 22:46
saxdiz :這篇告訴了大家垃圾話的文化及趣味 04/28 22:48
stocktonty :對石佛說 笑一個 然後他就被T了 04/28 22:51
InterAdriano:婊一堆人 然後拉抬KOBE 04/28 22:52
Maxslack :應該是現役的 不然怎麼下次當面嗆KG? 04/28 22:53
eat9tree :我愛垃圾話 04/28 22:53
hill2002 :有種感覺好像是小蟲說的XDDDD 04/28 22:53
timoy :比KG大隻的也不多啊XD 04/28 22:55
suckmanisme :讚啊 04/28 22:55
F100 :XDDDDDD 雖然垃圾話很不雅 但應該還是籃球的一 04/28 22:55
Rain0224 :XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 04/28 22:57
s0805744 :XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 04/28 22:57
ppbigass :老巴匿名就不叫老巴惹 04/28 22:57
kogeniusbe :這篇真讚~ 04/28 22:57
kaede0711 :這篇好中肯XD 04/28 22:57
yyyyy :怎麼沒提垃圾話之王-巴克利? 04/28 22:58
F100 :現在聯盟根本就扼殺了垃圾話(攤手) 04/28 22:59
apestage :這篇太讚了+1 從以前看到現在 還是覺得垃圾話很有趣 04/28 23:00
gotohikaru :推這篇 從那個年代看過來的 打球不說些垃圾話很無聊 04/28 23:05
beygwa :TD XD 04/28 23:05
barbeilt :我喜歡這篇, 現在的聯盟太安靜, 不然就是垃圾話太低 04/28 23:06
barbeilt :級, 根本不懂垃圾話的真諦! 04/28 23:06
tzengagan :TD那段真是太靠杯了 04/28 23:08
superkingbro:讚 但是不能怪外籍球員 因為他們國罵 美國人聽不懂 04/28 23:08
superkingbro:想用英語罵人 結果只講得出問候人家老娘的話 orz 04/28 23:09
DASHOCK :=================我猜這篇是大歐說的============== 04/28 23:13
frank123ya :嗎勒 這篇太好笑了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 04/28 23:15
svince88 :好文 04/28 23:15
KG29911069 :有笑有推! XDD 04/28 23:16
ignisfatuus :不可能是大歐啦= = 04/28 23:18
adonM :好! 04/28 23:20