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標題Re: [外電] The Carmelo-Jeremy Lin fit test, Pt. 1
時間Thu Feb 23 01:48:28 2012
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: ※ [本文轉錄自 Knicks 看板 #1FHGl6z5 ]
: 作者: cjSucks (西街-薩克斯) 看板: Knicks
: 標題: [外電] The Carmelo-Jeremy Lin fit test, Pt. 1
: 時間: Wed Feb 22 23:37:40 2012
: http://ppt.cc/Z2Nx
: 本文分析了甜瓜和林在球場上的契機,大致上都是戰術不夠純熟,
: 但藉由2位high-level的球員加入,看出未來的進攻十分強大。
: (甜瓜的吸引包夾以及Amare製造出許多空檔)
: The Carmelo-Jeremy Lin fit test, Pt. 1
: The Knicks cut into the Nets’ lead during the middle of the fourth quarter
: Monday night using a lineup that did not include Jeremy Lin or any
: traditional point guard. Then Lin came back into the game, and the Knicks,
: needing to play almost perfect offense in order to have any chance to win,
: did this with 5:20 left in the game:
在星期一比賽的第四節中段,Knicks逐漸將比分差縮小,除了Lin沒有在場上也沒有放正
統的PG。Lin上場之後,如果Knicks想贏球就必須有完美的進攻,在比賽最後的5:20,這
是他們的表現:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yWLLvuD4-uQ
: The skill level of the five New York players on the floor here is so high
: that this set is dangerous even though the three players surrounding the
: initial Lin/Tyson Chandler pick-and-roll — Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e
: Stoudemire on the left side, J.R. Smith in the right corner — do not move at
: all as that play unfolds. Despite that lack of motion, there is a brief
: moment when Stoudemire is open on the left baseline as Kris Humphries slides
: into the paint to help on Chandler. And any possession that ends with Melo
: isolating on Anthony Morrow counts as a well-used possession. Still, you can’
: t help but ask for more, just as we asked for more off-ball motion from Miami
: ’s stars all of last season.
大意是此時Knicks場上的球員(Melo, Lin, J.R., Tyson, and Amar'e)進攻很強大,就算
只有Lin/Tyson在玩pick'n roll其他的球員沒有跑動,也可以創造很多空檔。雖然缺乏跑
動,當Kris Humphries去協防Chandler時,為Amar'e在左邊底線製造了短暫的空檔。
而當Melo可以單打Marrow也可以算是有效的進攻。
: The challenge of re-integrating Anthony into the Lin Knicks centers on two
: things:
Melo的回歸對Knicks說有兩個挑戰:
: 1. Making Anthony and Stoudemire useful alongside the Lin/Chandler
: pick-and-roll. This play has become New York’s go-to action and figures to
: remain so when the core players are on the court. The typical way to
: accomplish this first goal would be to use Anthony as a secondary option — a
: deadly scorer Lin can kick the ball to if the defense stops the first play,
: as New Jersey does in the clip above. Even better would be for Anthony and
: Stoudemire to work some off-ball movement while that Lin/Chandler
: pick-and-roll unfolds, so that Anthony is on the move, with the defense
: compromised, when Lin kicks the ball his way. That doesn’t happen here, but
: it did at other times, and on those plays you could see the rudiments of what
: yet another “new” Knicks offense might look like — even in a game in which
: they put up their worst points per possession mark since Lin began getting
: real minutes.
如何讓Melo和Amar'e能在進攻端加強Lin/Chandler pick'n roll的威力。因為這已經變成
Knicks現在和未來的主要戰術。要達成這目標可以將melo設定第二出手選擇。Lin可以把
球傳給melo,如果防守端阻止了第一個play。最好的是,如讓Melo跟Amar'e做無持球的跑
動,當Lin/Chandler在玩pick'n roll的時候。
: 2. Folding in possessions in which Anthony and/or Stoudemire can work as the
: first option with Lin on the floor. This should be less difficult, though it
: will force Lin to work as both an off-ball screener and a spot-up shooter —
: skills that aren’t nearly as reliable as his pick-and-roll work at this
: point.
把Melo/Amar'e設定為第一出手選擇,當Lin也在場上時。這並不難,不過必須將Lin設定
為射手跟人牆。但是這兩個技能Lin還沒點滿。
: In any case, here are some notable things from Monday night:
星期一的回顧
: ‧ Keeping Anthony and Stoudemire useful during Lin/Chandler pick-and-rolls
: The Knicks get a “C” here, and that’s fine for Game 1. Plays like the one
: above — stuff that is too stagnant given the talent involved — dotted the
: game, and Anthony and Stoudemire occasionally looked uncertain working away
: from the main action. That’s expected. The Knicks are evolving, again, and
: they won’t have much practice time to aid that evolution. But they’ll work
: at it, and the talent is so good that New York should look like a scoring
: machine on some nights, even with awkardness like this:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AeT7s_cwLLg
想辦法讓Melo/Amar'e加入進攻當Lin/Chandler在玩pick'n roll時,對Knicks來說他們
的成績是C。就他們的第一場比賽的表現來說,還算可以接受。有時候Melo和Amar'e不知道要
在弱邊做什麼。這是可以預期的。Knicks還在進化,而他們有很好的天分,就算他們打的
跟下面那段影片一樣遭也可以是得分機器。
: Stoudemire and Anthony again sort of stand around while Lin and Chandler do
: their thing, and Stoudemire eventually serves as the safety valve at the
: elbow. He’s a couple of feet out of his range when he gets the ball, but he
: has historically been a dangerous mid-range shooter. If he’s going to work
: as a second option on the weak side — and Stoudemire’s demotion from first
: option to second or third is the biggest non-Lin story of the Knicks season —
: Lin will have to use him in this way even more than he has so far.
: You can see the uncertainty when Stoudemire gets the ball. Should Anthony
: post up? Should Stoudemire shoot? Should he drive? Eventually he and Anthony
: improvise a nifty pick-and-roll that leads to a switch and then a
: foot-on-the-line jumper that would be a great shot were it a three-pointer.
: Again, the Knicks get a good look despite the awkwardness, and that is a
: tribute to the talent of the players involved.
: The Knicks toyed with lots of other stuff involving these two off the ball
: during Lin/Chandler pick-and-rolls. On one possession midway through the
: first quarter, they stationed Anthony and Stoudemire in opposite corners.
: Anthony cut backdoor along the right baseline when his defender took a peek
: at Chandler rolling in the lane, while Stoudemire looped up behind the play
: to make himself a wide-open target near the left elbow for a possible jumper.
Melo/Amar'e在融入進攻上的問題。
: New York also did more of this:
Knicks很多的play是這樣玩的
: ‧ Clearing one side of the floor completely for Lin and Chandler
強邊只有Lin跟Chandler
: Here’s an example of this kind of set, which the Knicks used more on Monday
: night than in prior Lin games:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A_j3rs8G1PA
: This is really smart. Anthony and Landry Fields for their careers are average
: three-point shooters, and some lineups the Knicks will play heavy minutes
: going forward just won’t have the kind of threatening outside shooting of
: groups that feature Steve Novak and Smith. The Knicks adjust here by clearing
: the entire left side of the floor for Chandler and Lin. Normally, there would
: be a shooter in the left corner, where Fields starts this possession. But not
: here, since New York understands the guy defending that shooter would crash
: into the lane and muck up the pick-and-roll.
: You see the results: Kris Humphries has to come all the way across the court
: to prevent a Chandler dunk, and that opens up too many holes in the defense.
: Ideally, you’d like Chandler — not a good passer for his position — to hit
: Stoudemire directly instead of going through Melo as the middle man, but
: again, the talent is good enough that the play works regardless. The Knicks
: repeated this clear-out action several times throughout the game.
: ‧ Carmelo as the screener for Lin
Melo幫Lin擋人
: Anthony can play this role, even in games in which Chandler isn’t limited by
: foul trouble (as he was Monday), and the Knicks experimented with a
: half-dozen Lin/Anthony pick-and-rolls to uneven results:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pynNIFhLWE8
: Anthony slips the screen here, as he loves to do, and anytime he cuts down
: the lane hard, he’s going to draw attention. Notice how open Stoudemire gets
: on the left wing — this is one of those instances in which Lin missed him.
: Also notice Jared Jeffries cutting down the left side of the lane at the
: start of the play. He cuts right into Stoudemire’s space, and if he’s going
: to do that, he might as well hammer Humphries (Stoudemire’s man) with a
: screen to give Amar’e even more room.
: Here’s another Lin/Melo pick-and-roll, again with the left side totally
: clear — and with Stoudemire as a wide-open jump-shooting outlet:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aBbJknk1emQ
: ‧ Staggered screens for Lin
幫Lin做double screen
: This has enormous potential to free up Lin and unleash Anthony as a scorer:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IMINBNZu2LE
: Throw two dangerous screeners at Lin, and you’re bound to create an
: opportunity for someone — Lin, one of the screeners, or Stoudemire, lurking
: again on the weak side above the foul line. Here it’s Anthony, who does a
: beautiful job recognizing a chance to wrong-foot DeShawn Stevenson as he
: tries to slide back onto Anthony after darting over to contain Lin. Anthony
: can destroy you when given an advantage like this.
: ‧ Melo as the first option
讓Melo射
: New York fans can take heart in this: Each team gets 90 or so possession in a
: basketball game, and it was clear Monday night that should provide enough
: chances for everyone to get their fair share of time as the go-to guy–or at
: least for Melo to get his fair share. Stoudemire is a different story,
: working almost exclusively now as the second option.
: But here’s Melo, doing his thing:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5qid-bf9oG0
: Lin happily hands pick-and-roll duties to Anthony, who runs a quick one with
: Jeffries before finding Stoudemire for an easy jumper. Melo got plenty of
: opportunities as option No. 1. He isolated against Stevenson and Morrow on
: the block, darted into the post after a quick back-screen for Novak got
: nothing and ran several pick-and-rolls of his own — including one with
: Stoudemire that resulted in an And-1 layup for Anthony.
: He only took 11 shots, but Anthony also dished six assists (with six
: turnovers) and got to the line six times. Lin probably shouldn’t be
: attempting seven more field-goal attempts than Melo (and the same number of
: free throws), and Novak might never attempt 10 shots in a game again this
: season. The shot distribution on Monday probably wasn’t ideal, but this is
: an ongoing project.
: New York fans are probably sick of ongoing projects, but this is the most
: interesting one yet, and the one with the most potential. The challenge will
: be just as tough on defense, where Anthony and Baron Davis represent two more
: subpar defenders New York must incorporate alongside Chandler (perhaps the
: Defensive Player of the Year at this point) and Stoudemire (perhaps the
: Anti-Defensive Player of the Year). The Knicks’ perimeter defense was off
: against New Jersey, but that’s a theme for another day. This will be an
: interesting ride.
中間太長了...
Knicks球迷可能對這個過程不感興趣,但這是最有趣也是最有潛力的。這挑戰大概跟強調
防守一樣,尤其Melo/Baron是兩個低於平均的防守者。必須讓Chandler和Amar'e加入防守
系統。(Chandler: 到目前為止大概是年度最有價值防守球員; Amar'e:大概是年度"不"防
守球員)。在對Nets時,Knicks對外線的防守並沒有打開。
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