Re: [情報] Jermaine出書訪問談到MJ

[oldtrafford (oldtrafford)]

Chapter 21 - The Comeback King

Fall 2008. Michael is happy and healthy. Dancing and recording. Wheelchair
photo - was an act. Michael trying to make everyone think he wasn't ready or
capable for comeback.

08年秋天 MJ很開心和健康 跳舞和錄音 說那個輪椅照片是騙人的 MJ想要讓大家覺得
他無法復出了 (不過三保鑣說法相反)

"Because no comeback is truly a comeback until the odds seem impossible."

因為如果不是不可能的事情成真 就不是真的回歸

"Michael got stronger and stronger, week by week, and he shed weight when I
didn’t think he had any more to lose. Again, some people point to this “
thinness” as if it were a disturbing sign, but he had shrunk ever since the
trial and his fitness regime made him skinnier. It was also normal—after
each tour he ever did, he’d lose three inches off his waist. Michael was
simply shedding weight because of those daily four hours of dance."

MJ越來越強壯 而且還減重了 雖然JJ看不出他哪裡還有地方要減 很多人說MJ那樣瘦是
警訊 但是MJ在官司期間就整的大消瘦 而他開始回復比較健康時就會讓他看起來更瘦
而且他每次巡迴腰圍就少三吋 對他來說很正常 MJ看起來很瘦是因為每天都跳舞四小時

"In late 2008, he was so fit that, further down the line—eight weeks before
he died—when he bumped into a friend in a doctor’s office, he lifted his
shirt and said, “Have you seen my six-pack?”"

08年底MJ很健康 直到他過世前八個禮拜 甚至在他在診所碰到一個朋友時 還把衣服掀
起來說你有沒有看到我的六塊肌

Michael's plans: New house in Vegas as a new neverland, his kids see him
perform. make money from tour to pay his debts. Performing in China after
TII. Do Superbowl. 2 tours of "back by popular demand" concerts till 2014.
TII was the beginning not the end. 5 year plan.

MJ的新計畫 LV買新房子成為新的夢幻莊園 讓孩子們看到他演出 賺大錢來還債 在TII
後去中國演出 在超級盃演出 一路巡迴到2014年 TII不是最後 這是個五年的計畫

Still worried if the tickets would not sell, tested the waters with 10 in
Europe. Wasn't sure about USA reaction to him.

MJ還是擔心票是不是會賣不出去 所以打算用歐洲十場演出試水溫 不確定對他美國觀感

Flashback to after trial and time in Bahrain: Although Jermaine was
instrumental in the deal with the Prince, he's cut off and it becomes a deal
between only Michael and Prince Abdullah. Prince pays for Michael's lifestyle
in Bahrain. Michael in good faith believed these to be gifts and he didn't
realize it was part of his contract. Michael thought he was to do one album
but the contract was for music,musicals,movies, books etc. So as he doesn't
want to be owned by anyone he leaves. Prince sues Michael. Jermaine can't
believe Michael signed a contract without reading.

回去講到巴林 雖然JJ是去跟巴林王子談條件的人 但最後合約變成只有MJ和巴林王子
巴林王子出了所有錢支付MJ的生活 MJ以為這都是禮物 並沒有發覺是他合約的一部份
MJ以為他只需要完成一張專輯 但合約還包含了音樂劇 電影 書等等 MJ不想被誰擁有就
跑了 巴林王子告MJ JJ不敢相信MJ合約沒看就簽了

A lot of lawsuit against Michael worth $100M. Sony loan now $300M. Sony has
the option to buy his 25%. Good news Michael buys 5% share from Branca.
Jermaine thinks "once great business relationship" between Branca and Michael
floundered as Branca wasn't exclusively on Michael's side (conflict of
interest idea). Struggling to pay Neverland's costs, salaries, animal costs.
Ranch shut down in 2006.

一堆官司訴訟 達一億美金 SONY音樂版權的借貸達三億 錢尼可以選擇買25% 好消息是
John Branca把手中5%賣回給了MJ 說MJ和Branca的關係 因為Branca沒有完全屬於MJ這個
陣營而變壞 要維持夢幻莊園很困難 06年關閉

Summer 2006 Michael received a set of documents that showed that some
individuals were deliberately getting people to sue Michael to force him into
involuntary bankruptcy. Jermaine never saw the documents. don't know what
happened to them.

06年夏天 MJ收到資料說 有一群人找了一堆人告MJ來逼迫他破產 JJ沒看過那些資料
不知道後續是啥

Michael trusted a less people. There was one person he thought as a friend
and advised him unofficially since 2001. Michael was often a guest at his
house. One sleepless night during his war with Mottola , Michael overhears
this person on the telephone with Mottola saying not favorable things.

MJ相信的人越來越少 有個人是他以為是朋友的 從01年就私人身分來給MJ建議 MJ常去
他家作客 但在MJ有天晚上睡不著時 MJ聽到那個人在跟魔老闆講一堆糟糕事

Michael wanted to play "Willy Wonka" but the role went to Johnny Deep. 2007
"Crystal City" - Neverland theme park and Jackson Academy of performing arts
in Middle East. 4 meetings but they didn't have the money to fund it.

MJ想要演出威利旺卡 但是後來強尼戴普演了 07年JJ的主題公園計劃 還有在中東演出計畫
開過四次會議 但他們找不到人資源

2007 when in Africa in a business meeting trying to find a backer for the
project, a friend mentions Tohme Tohme as a guy "who knows a lot of people".
March 2008 Jermaine and Halima goes to meet Tohme. Not charming but gracious.
Jermaine discusses Crystal City to Tohme without mentioning Michael. 4
meetings with Tohme. Tohme says he'll try to come up with oil-rich investors
to fund $6billion and report back.

07年在非洲談生意 有個朋友提到Thome Thome說有很多關係 08年Jermaine和他老婆去見了
Thome 討論到這些計畫 沒有跟Thome提到MJ 跟Thome見了四次面 Thome說他可以想辦法
找到六十億資金 (MJ不會又是被他家亂七八糟計畫給拖累 跟Thome扯成一團= =)

Neverland foreclosure news. Jermaine worries that Michael would need to sell
his catalog to save Neverland. He decided to call Tohme. Halima says "you
hardly know the man". April 2008 Jermaine meets with Tohme , tells him the
situation and asks if he knows anyone that can help. Tohme says Tom Barrack /
Colony Capital would help and "he'll make sure of it". Jermaine goes to Las
Vegas to talk to Michael. Security doesn't let Jermaine in. He goes to a
hotel and comes back 3 times, still they don't let him in. He calls Katherine
who calls Grace who lets Jermaine in. Jermaine complains about the security
not letting him in. Michael tells him he'll make changes soon. Jermaine tells
Michael about Tom Barrack.

夢幻莊園岌岌可危的新聞 JJ擔心MJ會被迫賣出版權來救夢幻莊園 決定打給Thome JJ老婆
說你根本不了解這個人 08年四月JJ又見了Thome告訴他這個情形 希望他幫忙 Thome說
殖民地公司的Tom Barrack可以幫忙 他可以確保這個 Jermaine去了LV找MJ 警衛不讓他
進去 他去了旅館 連找MJ三次 還是不給進去 他打給J媽 J媽打給了Grace總算讓JJ進去了
JJ跟MJ抱怨說警衛不讓他進去 MJ告訴他會改變 JJ跟MJ講到Tom Barrck

"I know that my sister La Toya has said she wished she could have “protected
” him from the likes of Tohme-Tohme, but had she known the history and the
dire reality of the situation, I doubt she’d have held such an opinion."

JJ說我知道LaToya說她希望自己能保護MJ遠離Thome 但她不知道這背後歷史 還有當時糟糕的
的情況 說Toya如果知道評論就不同

Jermaine takes Tohme to meet Michael. Michael talks with Barrack on the
phone. Meeting with all of them is set. Shortly before foreclosure Barrack
pays $23M and gets 50% ownership at Neverland. Barrack and Tohme are heroes.
Tohme becomes Michael's manager. Tohme looks over Michael's finances. Cash
poor, asset rich. a lot of expenses.

JJ帶了Thome去見MJ MJ跟Barrack在電話講話 見了所有人 很快Barrack付了兩千三百萬
取得50%夢幻莊園所有權 說Barrack和Thome是英雄 Thome變成MJ經紀人掌管了MJ所有的財
物現金 資產 還有一切

2008 summer Michael shows Jermaine the photos of the house he wants to buy in
Vegas that belonged to Prince Jefri of Brunei. He saw the house in 2007,
decided to buy it in 2008 and was in negotiations in 2009 to make a $15M down
payment for it funded by his TII contract.

08年MJ給JJ看了他想在LV買的房子 屬於另一個巴林王子所有 MJ在07年就見過房子 08年
決定要買 09年在談判要先給一千五百萬訂金 錢是來自TII的合約

Michael and Barrack get along very well. Barrack wants to open a thriller
tower in his Hilton hotel. Michael asks him if he wants to partner with him
on Sony/ATV catalog. Jermaine doesn't want to leave Michael vulnerable to
Barrack and Tohme so he tries to recruit lawyer Joel Katz and Michael agrees.
Tohme turns against Jermaine as he brings in a lawyer. Neverland auction.
Michael approved it thinking only furniture in storage will be sold. He did
not want Neverland would be dismantled and his personal possesions be sold.
Michael soon fires Tohme.

MJ和Barrack處的很好 Barrack想要在他的希爾頓旅館裡開戰慄塔 MJ問他願不願意跟他
合夥SONY/ATV版權 JJ不想MJ在面對Thome和Barrack時是容易受攻擊的 所以找了律師 MJ
也同意 Thome因為JJ找了律師火大 夢幻莊園的拍賣 MJ以為只是要把儲藏室的傢具賣掉所
以同意 並沒有想要裡面的私人物品被賣 MJ不久就把Thome炒魷魚

Jermaine says before his firing even Tohme turned into a gatekeeper not
allowing him to see Michael.

說Thome被炒魷魚錢 也變成阻礙他見MJ的人

“I don’t understand why you keep coming around. Your brother does not want
to see you. If someone does not want to see you, I wouldn’t keep humiliating
myself and showing up . . .”

說Thome跟他說 我不了解你為什麼一直來 你的弟弟不想見你 如果有人不想見你 我不
會一直出現來汙辱自己

March/ April 2008 dinner with Barrack is when TII idea started. TII is one
way to earn big money or he would have need to work at McDonald's as he told
Karen Faye. Jermaine says Michael long dreamed a residency tour - in Paris.
Tohme reaches out to AEG and Live Nation. Jermaine knows AEG because he
talked to them in 2004 about a Broadway musical about Jacksons life story.
2008 Barrack seals the deal with Phil Anschutz of AEG for TII that came with
a minimal payment of $36.5M with an upside potential of $300M. 3 movies were
a part of it as well as the $15M Vegas home. Also an agreement to do spot
concerts as well as 2 tours. One of the tours would be a Jackson 5 reunion
tour because Katherine had told Michael that before she died she wanted to
see her sons tour together one last time. One more solo tour as final curtain
call. He said he would retire from music at when he was 55 years old and then
only focus on Hollywood for movies.

08年四月MJ和Barrack吃飯 有了TII的想法 TII是賺大筆金錢的方法 否則MJ就要去麥當勞
工作了(KF同樣說詞) JJ說MJ一直夢想在巴黎駐場演出 Thome找了AEG和Live NAtion
JJ知道AEG 因為在04年時也跟AEG談過要弄J家故事的音樂劇 08年Barrack跟AEG的
Phil Anschutz談妥了TII 最少AEG要支付三千六百萬投資 最多可達三億資金投入 合約
還談到三部電影 還有一千五百萬的LV房子 同樣同意到其他地點作兩小時演唱會 另一個
巡迴是J5複合巡迴 因為J媽跟MJ說在她死前 她想要再看一次她的兒子們在一起巡迴 另一
個巡迴是個人巡迴 也就是最後的謝幕MJ說他55歲就會從音樂方面退休然後專注在電影事業
(怎麼整本書下來 JJ一直不停講J家兄弟 要復合 要復合 MJ應該都快煩死)

TII announcement. Michael being late, not staying long etc. Jermaine says
earlier that day Michael learned that guitar player David Williams died.

TII發布記者會 MJ遲到 沒有待很久 JJ說因為那天MJ聽到吉他手David Williams死了

May 14, 2009 Family day. Katherine and Joe's 60th anniversary surprise.
Michael is 4 weeks into TII rehearsals.

2009年五月14 家族聚會日 給J媽老喬60週年結婚紀念驚喜 MJ為TII彩排四個禮拜

"When I spoke with my brother at the Indian restaurant, there was no question
that he was fit, healthy and focused. He was skinny, but only in an athletic
sense, and the photos that still stand on an end table in my living room
confirm it. More importantly, he was genuinely excited about “doing
something special for the fans” and there was talk of special guest
appearances by the likes of Slash and Alicia Keys. At least, that was an idea
he had been toying with."

當我跟我弟弟在印度餐廳談話時 毫無疑問他很健康和專注 他很瘦 但是是像運動員的瘦
而陷在還在我桌上當天的照片可以證實 最重要的是MJ真的很興奮他可以為歌迷們做一些
特別的事情 有講到誰會來當特別嘉賓 像是Slash和Alicia Keys

"The only thing he complained about was that he’d signed up to do “10 shows
only” as advertised but somewhere along the line, due to the demand tickets,
AEG had added an extra 40 dates. Even they sold out within five hours
on-line. Michael said no one had checked with him first, but at no point did
he give me the impression that the schedule was too punishing or beyond him,
because it wasn’t. Not for a man in his condition."

他唯一抱怨的事情是他原來只同意十場 就像廣告一樣 但突然某天因為票賣太好 AEG就
加了另外40場 雖然五小時就網路賣光光 但MJ說沒人問過他 但MJ沒有給JJ任何感覺是
行程太滿MJ會無法負荷 因為並不會無法負荷 起碼不是對MJ那樣的健康狀況
(太詭異了 難道MJ又簽約沒看?? 明明合約就不只十場阿)

"He always had breakfast and dinner with his kids, and while they went to bed
at around 8 pm, he soon followed around nine. He had been sleeping soundly
(his insomnia was only ever tour induced) and he seemed the most centered and
content I had seen him in years."
"When it was time for him to leave, everyone hugged and said their goodbyes.
“You’re all coming to London, right?” Michael asked us. “Yeah! We’ll be
there!” I said, as we all did. “Okay, everyone. See you in London!”"

MJ都會跟孩子們吃早餐和晚餐 然後當孩子們八點去睡時 他九點也就去睡了 而且睡很好
說MJ的失眠只有因為巡迴 說那次見面是多年來他見過MJ最專注的一次
當MJ要離開時 大家都擁抱說再見 MJ問所有人 你們都會去倫敦吧 我們每個人都說
對 我們都會去 他說 那在倫敦見了

(這也很詭異 他前面才說MJ因為失眠聽到朋友跟魔老闆對話 現在又說MJ只會因巡迴失眠?)

to be continued.

one more chapter left. It's about Michael's death, what happened during TII
rehearsals, funeral.

(note: I looked over Jermaine is saying that Michael was down to 136lbs from
150-155lbs)

節錄者說 JJ在書裡寫MJ是從150磅瘦到136磅

剩一章~ 節錄者還沒貼


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在一個充滿仇恨的世界 我們仍須勇於希望  在一個充滿憤怒的世界 我們仍須勇於安慰
在一個充滿絕望的世界 我們仍須勇於夢想  在一個充滿猜忌的世界 我們仍須勇於相信

---------------by 麥克傑克森

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推 ChesterB:Thome真是怪翻天了 魔老闆這外號取的貼切
推 yatan0525:從頭到尾前後矛盾的很多...感覺把麥可的狀況說得太好了
→ yatan0525:是不是為了現在的官司??還有不太相信MJ會簽約不看內容
→ yatan0525:再來MJ明明說了This is it是Final curtain call
→ yatan0525:這跟當年Victory的情形一樣，不覺得MJ會這樣戲弄歌迷
推 chyhhwai:非常矛盾+1...=.=
推 Mr7:不知有沒有人製作對質表？好多人好多套說法都搞混了＝ ＝
推 ChesterB:基本上他最後也不在場 很多資訊都是二手的吧 不過事實就
→ ChesterB:很顯然 五月時J家都沒覺得有異狀 不然怎麼都沒人說話
推 stemuse:感謝翻譯～JJ的書好像太陽花系列，是真是假真難辨別
→ u7273:話說 三保鑣的書出了嗎?
→ oldtrafford:回樓上 沒有 不過卡西歐家的書快出了
推 ChesterB:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062090062 卡家的書
推 Foucault:不知Jermaine哪裡得知MJ的財務狀況。財務這麼隱私的事情
→ Foucault:，怎麼可能會跟生疏的哥哥報告？應該不是第一手消息吧？
推 u7273:感謝樓下二位版友的回答 :)