[閒聊] The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post

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The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post partI

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With the trade deadline coming up in less than a month (February 19th to be
exact), I thought it would be prudent to discuss what possibilities could
exist.  But I realized that I couldn't possibly know what each team needed as
I only truly follow the Kings closely, and although I have a solid grasp on
quite a few teams needs, nobody knows their team better than the passionate
fans that follow them.
交易大限﹝2/19﹞將至，來聊聊可能發生的交易案吧，但我知道我不可能瞭解每一隊的需
求，因為我只有跟國王的比賽跟的比較緊，我只是大概知道一些隊伍的需求，沒有人會比
忠實的粉絲更了解自己的球隊。

So I contacted Blogger Fans from around the Interwebs (mostly SBN, the
TrueHoop Network, and the Fansided Network) in order to get a little bit of
information about their team (the amount of information I gleaned varied from
person to person, so I'll have more on some teams than others), and for a
little bit of outsider perspective from them (asking them what players from
the Kings they would want on their team, besides Tyreke of course, who is
perhaps the only truly untouchable asset).  We as Kings fans tend to not have
a totally realistic value of our players, or at least attribute a different
value to our players than fans of other teams.  So I hope you enjoy the read,
and hopefully learn a lot.  Thank you to all those who took the time to
respond to my e-mails/fanposts.
所以我透過網路聯絡了各隊的部落客以獲取各隊的資訊，並詢問他們的觀點﹝問他們除了
reke以外，國王有哪位球員符合他們的需求。﹞。我們國王迷常常不能真正的了解自己球
員的價值，透過這種方式至少可以了解國王球員在別隊球迷心中的價值。感謝那些願意撥
冗回信給我的你們。

Note: Clicking on each teams logo will link to their salary cap information
from shamsports.com. It opens in a new window.
譯者：隊名下方的連結可以觀看該隊薪資狀況

Atlantic Division:
大西洋組

Boston Celtics
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/celtics.jsp
Source: Roy Hobbs, Editor for Celtics Blog

Team Needs: "Our biggest needs are backup PG and backup SF, and overall we
could use younger / more athletic players (who have some fundamental
skills)."
需求：缺替補後衛跟替補小前鋒，以及可以派上場的年輕/運動神經發達的球員﹝須具備基
本的技巧﹞。

Who Would You Want: "You guys have a few that are interesting. Kevin Martin,
Jason Thompson, and Spencer Hawes have to be pretty desirable to most teams
out there."
感興趣的國王球員：馬丁、小湯和阿屁，很多隊伍都哈他們。

My Analysis: Boston is built to compete for a title for the next 2-3 years,
and thats why a player like Nocioni could be very valuable to them.  Of all
the teams that might have an interest in Noc, Boston has always been one that
makes the most sense.  They have the expirings and the need.  They're also in
a little bit of a slump and might think they can use the help.
分析：波士頓的目標是在這二到三年內保持爭冠的戰力，因此酒駕對他們將會很有幫助，
眾多對酒駕感興趣的球隊中，波士頓無疑是非常有可能的隊伍，他們有到期約，也有需求
，他們現況不佳，酒駕或許對他們有幫助。

Likelihood of a trade between us: I know Boston would love to trade Ray Allen
to us for Martin and Kenny Thomas, but the Kings wouldn't do that.  More
likely, and very possible, is the Kings trading Nocioni for Scalabrine and
House/T. Allen.  I'm pretty sure that at this point, the Kings will take any
expirings for Noc and if Boston calls, the deal will be done.  But other than
a Noc deal, nothing else makes much sense. The C's could want Sergio, but
other teams could offer better deals for Sergio. Not many teams would want to
take on Nocioni.
可能的交易方案：我知道波士頓可能會想用Allen跟我們換馬丁和K9，但我們不會接受。比
較有可能的方案是酒駕換Scalabrine和House/T. Allen。我想在這個時刻國王願意接受任
何的到期約，只要波士頓來電，這個交易就能定案。除了酒駕之外的交易案都不太有機會
，波士頓可能會想要Serge，但其他隊伍能提出對Serge更好的報價。其實對酒駕有興趣的
隊伍並不多。


New Jersey Nets
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/nets.jsp
Source: NetsDaily, Manager of Nets Daily

Team Needs: "The Nets need defense, rebounding, and shooting. (That's a lot,
but hey, they're 3-38 [3-40 as of this reading]) And the forward spots are
their biggest weaknesses."
需求：缺防守、缺籃板、缺射手﹝我知道缺很大，畢竟他們現在3勝40負﹞。前鋒線是他們
最大的問題。

Who Would You Want: "Casspi and Thompson, for the reasons above, and because
they're young and cheap."
感興趣的國王球員：卡卡和小湯，基於上述原因，而且他們年輕又便宜。

My Analysis: It's really difficult to be a Nets fan now, but the Nets have
the chance to be rather insanely good in the near future.  They have some
very good young pieces (Brook Lopez and Devin Harris are All-Star Talents)
and some other good young guys with promise (CDR, Courtney Lee, Yi, Terrence
Williams), a top 4 pick in the draft and the best chance to win the John Wall
sweepstakes (it's pretty much guaranteed they're going to finish last), and a
ton of cap space next year with a new billionaire owner.  Of the players on
the Nets, the only one I'm remotely interested in is Brook, and if the Nets
know what's good for them, they won't trade him for anyone.  Dominant centers
are the hardest thing to get, and they have one.
分析：現在當一個籃網的球迷真的很痛辛苦，但他們在不久的將來很可能會突飛猛進，他
們有年輕的天份﹝Brook Lopez和Devin Harris都有成為全星星的潛力﹞也有其他年輕的球
員﹝CDR, Courtney Lee, Yi, Terrence Williams﹞，今年的選秀權有前四順位保障，而
且最有機會選到John Wall﹝這也是他們願意墊底的原因﹞，同時有很大的薪資空間去牽一
位重量級球員。籃網陣中我只對Brook感興趣，但籃網腦袋夠清楚的話就不會賣他，一個具
有宰制力的中鋒是最難獲得的，而他們手上就有一個。


Likelihood of a Trade between us: I'll let NetsDaily take it from here: "I
don't find it very likely that these teams would make a deal, because they're
both in the same position: trying to put together a talented, young core.
Neither team really has much redundancy at this point either."
可能的交易方案：兩隊都在收集年輕的天份，我想不到可行的交易。


New York Knicks
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp
Source: Seth, Manager of Posting and Toasting

Team Needs: "The Knicks desperately need a pure point guard. Chris Duhon is
billed as such, but has only occasionally shown the attacking ability and
court vision necessary to quarterback the D'Antoni offense. Nate Robinson,
too, has had trouble managing the ball and setting up the offense. The team's
ball movement as a whole struggles when those two don't have it going."
需求：尼克極度渴望一個純控衛，他們已經有Duhon了，但他的攻擊能力貧乏，而且在冷笑
話的體系下，他們需要一個能觀察全場動態的控衛。Nate在處理球和策劃進攻上有一些問
題，當這兩個人都出現問題時，球隊的進攻就會陷入麻煩。

Who Would You Want: "The two most desirable Kings would have to be Kevin
Martin (just because any team would benefit from such a talented scorer. I
think he'd flourish under D'Antoni.) and Sergio Rodriguez, because he's got
solid point guard skills and a manageable contract."
感興趣的國王球員：最想要的兩個球員是馬丁﹝因為馬丁在任何隊伍都可以隨插即用，我
想他在冷笑話的手下會如魚得水﹞和Serge，因為他具備一個控衛所需的技巧而且夠便宜。

My Analysis: The Knicks are not looking to add any salary.  And they need a
point guard.  Sergio Rodriguez would be absolutely perfect for them in both
ways.  But is there anyone we would want?  David Lee is someone I've always
been interested in, but the Knicks are likely not giving him up.  They also
probably aren't going to give up someone like Jordan Hill for Sergio unless
we take Jeffries or Curry, both contracts which I want the Kings to stay away
from.  I really like Marcus Landry and Wilson Chandler, but the last thing
the Kings need is another wing.  Darko could work here, but he's reportedly
leaving the NBA no matter what next year.  After that, there is the
possibility of Nate Robinson, who the Kings have admittedly shown interest in
before (I don't really like him), and the person I do like, Toney Douglas.
分析：尼克不想要任何的薪資負擔，可是他們需要一個控衛，Serge無疑非常適合他們，但
他們有我們要的菜嗎？David Lee不錯但尼克不可能給。如果要尼克拿出Jordan Hill，我
們就得吃下Jeffries或Curry的合約，這兩分合約國王最好不要去淌渾水。我蠻喜歡Marcus
Landry和Wilson Chandler，但國王不需要，小米粒也許能派上用場，但他已經說他下季要
回歐洲了。所以只剩Nate Robinson，國王之前對他有興趣﹝我不喜歡他﹞，以及我比較喜
歡的Toney Douglas。

Likelihood of a Trade between us:  I don't see the Kings wanting to take on
either of Jeffries or Curry's contracts, so unless they're willing to simply
offer a trade of expiring contracts, something like Seth thought of, Darko
and Nate for Sergio and K-9, I don't see it happening.  There really aren't
that many guys on the Knicks the Kings could be interested in.
可能的交易方案：我看不到國王吃下Jeffries或Curry的合約的可能，除非他們也願意提供
到期約，比如Seth所提的米粒加Nate換Serge和K9之類的交易案，我不認為這會發生，兩隊
都沒有太多對方有興趣的菜。

Philadelphia 76ers
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/sixers.jsp
Source: J. Sams, Co-Manager of Liberty Ballers

Team Needs: "We need shooters, a go-to scorer at the end of games, and a
center to anchor the defense in the future."
需求：射手，關鍵時刻能依賴的攻擊手，未來的防守型中鋒。

Who Would You Want: "Omri Casspi and Jon Brockman (or any expiring
contracts). Casspi because he's a classic glue guy every contender needs and
a good shooter who's better than Jason Kapono on defense. Brockman for some
of the same reasons."
想要的國王球員：卡卡和洛克人﹝或者是到期約﹞卡卡是每一隻勁旅都會想要的球員，好
射手，防守也比Kapono好，洛克人也是一樣。

My Analysis: Philadelphia would love to shed some salary, and there isn't
anybody out there who is touching Elton Brand's contract, so that leaves
Iguodala and Dalembert as big contracts Philly might try to move.  I like
Iggy, but I think his game wouldn't mesh very well with Tyreke's, mainly
because they're both slashers and not very good perimeter shooters.
 Dalembert has been playing very well as of late, averaging the 2nd most
rebounds and blocks of his career while adding 8 points on 53% shooting.
 Another thing about Sam, he hasn't missed a game since 2006 and has 4
seasons of 82 games played.  I actually would not mind Sammy D on the Kings
right now. I don't consider us players in the 2010 market anyway.
分析：七六人想要舒解薪資壓力，但沒有一支隊伍會願意碰Brand的合約，所以只剩Iggy和
大懶伯這兩份大約送的出去，我喜歡Iggy，但他和reke應該不會合，因為兩人都是劊子手
而不是好的射手。大懶伯近期的表現回溫，籃板和火鍋都達到生涯次高的成績，每場可另
外貢獻8分﹝命中率53%﹞，他從2006年以來連續四年全勤，我覺得國王可以吃下他的合約
，因為我不認為國王在今年夏天能成為買家。

Likelihood of a Trade Between us:  I think that Dalembert will definitely
re-surface in rumors before the deadline, and Sacramento will once again be
linked.  He fits a need (Great shot blocker, Great Defensive Rebounder), and
will be an expiring next year.  Dalembert for K-9 and Armstrong works, and it
saves the Sixers almost $13 million next year, in a draft that they can
likely find a quality big man.  I would not be surprised to see Dalembert
come to Sacramento at or near the deadline.
可行的交易方案：在交易大限之前國王和大懶伯的傳言一定會再次被提出來，他符合我們
的需求﹝善於封阻和保護防守籃板﹞，而且下季他的合約就到期了，大懶伯換K9+阿姆是可
行的，他幫七六人明年省下13m的薪資，讓他們有機會找更適合的長人。在交易截止日前大
懶伯來國王並不會讓我太訝異。

Toronto Raptors
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/raptors.jsp
Source:  Vicious D, Writer for Raptors HQ

Team Needs: "Depends on who you ask.  If it's about this actual team that we
have, we need a real Small Forward who will attack the interior more than
once in a blue moon.  A guy that will at least give you rebounding if they
aren't making shots.  Sad thing right now is that we lost two of the better
options available in Carlos Delfino as well as in Shawn Marion.  Hedo
Turkoglu, while you can argue about his many talents, is not one of those
physical presences despite his size.  With Bargnani shooting from the outside
most nights, although he does have some ability to rebound or at least block
out, the Raptors need someone else besides Chris Bosh to actually grab them.
 Unfortunately, Turkoglu isn't that guy."
需求：需要可以攻擊禁區的小前鋒，好的籃板手，我們沒能留下Carlos Delfino和Shawn
Marion真的很可惜，至於Turkoglu，儘管他有身材，但他並不能達到上述的要求。
Bargnani也偏好在外圍投射，浪費他的籃板和封蓋的天賦，需要Bosh以外可以達到上述條
件的人，火槍兵不是我們要的人。

Who Would You Want: "I think most people would automatically go with Garcia
and Martin if they were looking at pure fantasy stats.  However, if I were to
look at this team, I would like Martin along with a guy like Spencer Hawes.
 I think a guy like Spencer Hawes is intriguing at his salary and would help
the Raptors as far as an additional interior presences is concerned."
感興趣的國王球員：只看數據的話，大家都會自動聯想到老賈和馬丁，然而我的首選是阿
屁，其次是馬丁，阿屁不貴而且能加強我們的禁區威脅。

Who Would You Want for Chris Bosh?: Because Bosh is perhaps the most coveted
non-King for us StR types, I decided to give Vicious a special bonus question
which he took the time to answer for me. "Youth and draft picks.  If the
Raptors were to let their franchise player go, it would mean that the Raptors
would need some youthful talent come back to give us some hope.  The Raptors
would definitely need Spencer Hawes or another center in return, would need a
multitude of draft picks so that they can draft some new talent, and would
probably want to bring in some of the Kings' expiring contracts so they could
hunt down an additional piece or two in the summer.  I'm sure the Raptors fan
base would take the news hard, but the rebuild process would be quicker with
those pieces. "  So it looks like they'd probably want Spencer or Jason, our
unprotected draft pick in 2010, and expirings.  I think he makes a good point
in asking for Expirings instead of Martin.  The Raptors just spent a lotto
pick on someone they think could be their shooting guard for years, and
Martin doesn't really fit a need while his salary would eat up at their space
for quite a few years.  Perhaps they'd want to include a Martin for Calderon
deal in any Bosh swap and I think that would be fair.
用Bosh的話想換誰：﹝因為Bosh是大家感興趣的球員，所以特別增加這個問題。﹞年輕球
員和選秀權，如果暴龍要讓最重要的球員離開的話，那意味著我們必須換回年輕的球員，
好讓球隊保持希望，我們想要阿屁或其他的中鋒，數個選秀權以增加球隊的天賦，也想要
國王的到期約以便於在這一兩個暑假可以捕人，我知道暴龍球迷很難接受，但這樣才能加
快球對重建的速度。
所以看起來暴龍想要阿屁或小湯，2010不受限的選秀權和到期約，我想他用到期約取代馬
丁是正確的決定，暴龍認為得分後衛的部份可以用選秀來補足，而馬丁的複數年合約讓他
們難以下嚥。他們也願意把Calderon放入包裹內來交換馬丁，我想這是個公平的交易。

My Analysis:  There is only one Raptor I covet, and I think we all covet him:
Chris Bosh.  Unfortunately for the Kings, I doubt he will be made available
at the trade deadline for reasons I will make clear below.  Other than Bosh,
I really don't like the Calderon for Martin rumors for the Kings, but Amir
Johnson is someone I think we could use. He's basically Tyrus Thomas-lite.
 I'm sure the Raptors would love to unload Hedo, but there isn't any way the
Kings are taking on that massive contract for a declining player.
分析：我只哈一個人，我想大家都一樣─Chris Bosh。但我對他在交易大限前是否會被交
易存疑，原因下面會詳述。。除了Bosh以外，對於Caldron換馬丁的案子並沒有興趣，
Amir Johnson是不錯的球員，他像公牛的TT，我確定暴龍很樂意把火槍兵送走，但沒有任
何誘因讓國王吃下這份大約。

Likelihood of a trade between us: Slim.  The Raptors have little incentive to
trade Bosh or Johnson to the Kings. Johnson merely because he's an expiring
and a useful bench player, and Bosh because they would be absolutely stupid
to trade him at the deadline.  They can offer more money and more years than
any other team in the league for him.  If he really wants to leave, he would
have to give up at least 20 million dollars, something no player has done.
 Unless someone offers the Raptors a deal that is too good to pass up, I see
Bosh staying in Toronto, at least until the offseason.  If he were made
available, the Kings would likely be one of the teams trying to go after him,
and I'm sure Petrie has at least sent feelers.  But is Bosh worth getting rid
of at least 2 quality players and a likely top 10 draft pick in a big heavy
draft?  I think you have to say yes, merely because he's already proven his
worth.  But I think the Kings might choose to go the cheap route and try to
get their big of the future via the draft.  Lucking out in the lottery would
be a huge help, but obviously not something you should count on.
可能成行的交易方案：對於暴龍而言他們不會有太大的興趣把Johnson或Bosh送到國王，
Joshson是一個可靠的替補而且還是到期約，至於Bosh，除非他們傻了才會在截止日之前把
他送走，暴龍是唯一可以提供最長年限和最高金額的合約給Bosh的隊伍，如果他真的想走
，他至少得放棄2000萬的薪水，這沒有球員做得到。除非有人可以提供夠好的條件讓暴龍
願意把他送走，我認為Bosh至少會在暴龍待到季末，一旦他被放到交易市場上，國王很可
能成為買家之一，我想總管至少會去探探口風，但Bosh值得我們拿出兩個好球員以及今年
的前十順位選秀權去交換嗎？我想是值得的，因為他已經證明過自己的身價了，不過我想
國王應該會透過選秀來獲得好的長人，在抽樂透時只要手氣夠好就會有很大的幫助，但這
不是你能期待的。

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推 Kshatri:先推
推 santabrelai:精神上支持
推 pennykidd:我認為卡卡是國王跟任何隊重磅交易的催化劑只要我們願意
→ pennykidd:把他放入包裹中也許我們可以換來好的內線球員因為卡卡的
→ pennykidd:位置是最好填補的但情感上要放掉卡卡真的很傷首輪末驚奇
→ kikijuice:現在換不換Casspi不是問題 哪隊願意把內線換給我們
→ kikijuice:才是問題 有可能會成真的交易基本上都不需要動Casspi
推 GodEyes:三號位如果真的必須動到，我個人Greene > Garcia > Casspi
推 pennykidd:恩恩 我是指上述Bosh的方案 當然最可能的方案是大懶柏
→ GodEyes:我認為Casspi有當一哥的潛質，小賈比較成熟，但即便TE可以
→ pennykidd:如果是2010選秀權和小卡來選的話 我可能忍痛讓小卡走
→ pennykidd:如果暴龍想要阿屁/小湯 2010不受限的選秀權和到期約的話
→ GodEyes:順利成長也需一兩年後，到時小賈三十也要面臨走下坡了
→ pennykidd:我可能比較偏好選秀權留著 小賈比較幸運因為他今年是BYC
→ kikijuice:從Mockdraft上看來 10年的選秀似乎補不了我們的禁區
→ kikijuice:留下Casspi個人覺得比較穩妥
→ kikijuice:Casspi這種人 不是每年用同樣順位就選得到的
推 pennykidd:可是小卡也不是禁區阿 JT&小卡&KT 會是我們能提出的case
推 GodEyes:怎麼會，我們還需要另一個PF啊，Brockman畢竟還是太矮，就
→ GodEyes:算選進PF也有空間能打，JT實在太累了
→ GodEyes:就說現在的薪資也很麻煩，遇到交易為了平衡就要多貼人，但
→ GodEyes:每個人都有能力，變成多貼多賠
→ GodEyes:最好的結果就像前幾篇推文，幸運抽到狀元，然後   1st 換
→ GodEyes:Rubio ， 其他人換禁區了 ，也可以現金跟雷霆換一枚中段
→ GodEyes:首輪選秀
推 pennykidd:如果想要抽到狀元可能還要多輸幾場機率才會比較高真矛盾
推 GodEyes:去年的經驗......，雖然希望有好簽， 不過還是希望下半球
→ GodEyes:季可以爆走進季後賽啊......
推 winnabe:小卡 小湯 EVANS必留 其他都可以換 這三支才是基石吧
推 RonArtest93:Southwest  Division
推 kikijuice:個人覺得狀元籤不見得換得到Rubio 灰狼真的需要江臥嗎
→ kikijuice:似乎並非是這樣 另外 在戰績後段的球隊裡 沒有一隊是
→ kikijuice:真正缺少一個合格控衛的 更何況江臥實際上是PG皮 SG骨
→ kikijuice:他可能是future allstar 但質疑他的人比當初質疑LBJ的多
→ kikijuice:多了 更何況灰狼如果用Rubio換來江臥 豈不是自己打臉...
→ kikijuice:另外 我指的補不了是 禁區防守應該還是一樣弱 再選個
→ kikijuice:PF進來也是一樣得undersize去扛C 如果reke還是不會傳球
→ kikijuice:選進來一樣還是會養不起來 倒不如今年直接換大懶柏
→ kikijuice:找個負責撿子彈的總是比較快...
→ kingpredrag:阿泰是好人^^
→ kingpredrag:Rubio應該出馬丁就換的到了，只是這樣換不太好
→ kikijuice:薪資應該也差很多XD
推 eliczone:換大懶伯不錯
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作者: RonArtest93 (新阿泰) 看板: Kings
標題: Re: [閒聊] The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post
時間: Fri Jan 29 00:15:22 2010



小牛



小牛缺少的:

Team Needs: "The Mavs essentially have two positions of interest: shooting
guard and center. They'd seem to be relatively stacked at both, but as
always, there's a catch.

小牛隊會想要SG跟C

不過也可能到最後什麼都落空


Josh Howard and Jason Terry are playing a majority of the minutes at the 2,
but both are having uncharacteristically sub-par seasons. Howard has spent
the better part of the last two seasons recovering from injury, and though
he's supposedly operating at full strength these days, he hardly performs
like it. He's still a solid defender, but Howard has become a bit of an
offensive liability; he's shooting 37.8% from the field and 24.6% from three,
a far cry from his career marks of 45.4% and 34.0%, respectively. Howard was
supposedly the piece that, when healthy, would thrust the Mavs into elite
status, but so far he's been anything but. Terry's having an equally rough go
of it, which is particularly odd considering his typical efficiency.
Throughout his career, JET has been one of those atypical players that can
score efficiently on mid-range jumpers alone. This year has been a different
story, and when Terry's shot stops falling, his value on the floor is pretty
limited.


Terry跟 JH   是他們SG的主力

但是今年兩位都打不好

JH有最近才從傷病中走出來,他很難再回到過去的水準

JH是個好的防守者, 但是進攻越來越不被需要

今年命中率只有 37.8% , 三分線更是只有24.6%

離生涯水平低了不少

當他健康時  小牛才越有跟強隊一博的資格

但可惜事與願違

Terry是另一個下滑案例

他今年失去以往高效率取分的水準

當他的投射進不了籃框時

他在場上的價值就很有限


At center, the Mavs could really just use another body. The combination of
Erick Dampier and Drew Gooden provide an interesting and productive tandem
(Damp's defense and Drew's offense), but Dallas lost their third option in
trading Kris Humphries to the Nets. Doesn't seem like much, but it's a
bummer."

小牛的中鋒很有趣

今年是靠 Dampier  跟  Gooden  合體獸  兩隻當一隻在用

Dampier負責防守   ,Gooden負責進攻

他們已經把一個不錯的第三選擇長人Humphries賣給了籃網

所以在禁區上還是有點抱歉




Who Would You Want: "Kevin Martin - Duh. His defense is...shall we say, a
work in progress, but just about any team in the league can use a 26-year-old
shooter and scorer extraordinaire. The Mavs offense has been mediocre all
season long, and throwing a player of Martin's caliber into the mix would be
God Shammgodsend.

小牛想要的國王菜:

KM,  一個防守還在開發中, 但是只有26歲的絕佳得分手

小牛本季的進攻只有中等水準

如果能加入KM

就像是天上掉下來的禮物一樣爽


Jason Thompson - The next best non-Reke King is hardly a consolation prize,
as Thompson should be a very effective player for years to come. I definitely
prefer Shock over Hawes, if only because I see Thompson as the superior
rebounding and defensive talent. He'd be a nice part of the PF-C rotation for
the Mavs, even if Dallas had to part with a big in the process."

JT

如果我是小牛球迷會會想搶JT大於HAWES

JT在球隊的重要性不下於REKE

因為他有很強的籃板能力

如果我是小牛老闆

即使要我送出一個現有長人換到JT我也願意


My Analysis: Dallas has a team built to win now.  Dampier is probably their
most tradeable asset, as his contract for next year is basically unguaranteed
(He has to meet some performance standards that are way above his skill
level), but even with his money clearing, the Mavs will still be above the
Luxury Tax next year, so they probably will just let it expire unless its a
pretty big upgrade.  Dampier and Gooden are a decent combo at Center in my
opnion.  The player that most intrigues me on the Mavericks is Roddy
Beaubois, an athletic freak of nature combo guard.


Likelihood of a Trade Between us: None at all.  The Mavericks have too many
big contracts for older guys that the Kings really don't want.  Any trade
would skew badly in Dallas' favor.  There also just really aren't any people
that would fit a need here. Even Beaubois doesn't fill a need.  Dampier would
be good for our defense, but Dallas would likely want K-9 and a Casspi or Dont
é.  No thank you.

作者分析:

小牛是一隻要爭冠的球隊

Dampier是他們最大的交易資產

他的合約明年是非保障  (多暴氣個幾場吧蛋皮)

但即使清除了他的合約

小牛今年還是要交豪華稅

所以他們可能還是傾向讓Dampier的合約到期就好

除非有好康的交易可賺

Dampier跟Gooden都算是中規中矩的中鋒而已

我真正看上眼的是Roddy Beaubois 這個體能極佳的小後衛


交易可能:

抱歉啦沒有國王要的菜

再連絡



火箭


火箭缺少的

Team Needs: "A legit scorer at the wings; size and athleticism up front; a
go-to scorer"


少能夠得分的go-to-guy


Who Would You Want: Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson are the most intriguing
options for Rahat, although Kevin Martin would fill a pretty big need.
My Analysis: In my opinion, Houston would LOVE to get their hands on Kevin
Martin.  He would give them the scorer and outside threat they need.  I think
a large part of the Tracy McGrady for Kevin rumors were emanating from the
Houston side.  Sacramento probably wants nothing to do with McGrady and would
likely want Aaron Brooks (who probably wouldn't work well with Evans, in my
opinion), Carl Landry (6th man of a year, great post scorer), Luis Scola, or
Trevor Ariza.  I just don't see a Martin to Houston trade that would work to
Sacramento's liking.

火箭想要的國王菜

禁區雙寶跟KM都想要

我個人觀點是火箭很哈KM這樣的球員

他們可能會用TMAC來換

國王可能會想拿小AB或Landry , Scola, Ariza 大於 TMAC


不過我真的覺得KM被交易到火箭的機率不高

Likelihood of trade happening between us: As a matter of fact I don't see any
trade with Houston working out to Sacramento's liking.  Landry is a great
scorer up front, but he's not a good rebounder, doesn't handle the ball well,
and is an ok defender.  Brooks is one of the best scoring point guards in the
league, but his defense is sub-par, and he tends to take a lot of shots to
get his points.  I like Ariza, but the Kings already have a glut of wings,
and I don't want to give up Omri or Donté for him. Both those guys could end
up being better than Ariza.

交易可能

沒太多可能

Landry的低位得分雖好, 但籃板跟防守就沒那麼出色

Brooks的得分能力很強  , 但防守會被打點

而且他有自己來的傾向

我喜歡Ariza

但是國王搖擺人已經暴了

請好好養OMRI跟小綠卡實在


灰熊


灰熊缺少的 

Team Needs: The Grizzlies are mostly looking for a scorer off the bench, and
who also has to be extremely cheap (Under $2 Million a year cheap) or an
expiring contract.  According to the Memphis Commercial Appeal, "The Griz
will not take a player whose deal extends beyond this season if they indeed
consummate a deal. Although they are willing to trade draft picks because of
the team's youth, the Griz are not offering their own 2010 selection."


先發都很強的灰熊缺少能得分的板凳奇兵

而且要便宜的, 到期的好約

他們官方說法是就是要到期約就對了

他們可能會去交易更多選秀權

但不會動到自己2010年的籤


Who Would You Want: "The Kings's roster isn't exactly filled with players
that fit the bill for the Grizzlies. I suppose that Donte Greene would be an
option, especially since he can theoretically play as a stretch power forward
and even at shooting guard in a pinch.Aside from Donte, though, most of the
Kings are on too long of contracts to really be of interest to the Grizz,
since they have to extend or re-sign 4 of their 5 starters in the next two
years and all 5 plus most of the bench in 3 years."


想要的國王菜

國王沒有灰熊要的菜

最有吸引力的可能是小綠

尤其是小綠能打多個位置的特點很吸引人

其他人對灰熊來說不具吸引力因為合約太長

因為灰熊接下來兩年要重簽很多球員包況GAY,MAYO,GASOL弟....

等先發  , 不能再有長約丟進來


My Analysis: Well with the kind of parameters Chris Wallace has set, there
really aren't many options.  The only options would really be Donté or
Sergio.  Now a trade that has really started to grow on me is the possibility
of a Sergio for Haddadi swap.  Haddadi is stuck in the rotation behind Zach
Randolph (locked up till 2011), Gasol (locked up till 2012), and Thabeet
(2014).  He has no real use to the roster and yet he's locked up until 2011
before they could offer him a qualifying offer.  Now if the Grizzlies were
willing to offer Thabeet for perhaps Spencer, I think the Kings might have to
at least think about it.

作者分析:

雖然灰熊總管是好人Chris Wallace

但是我們大概只有小綠跟Sergio 他們看的上

可能他們會交易上不了場的Haddadi

因為Randolph跟 Gasol弟  打的正好


Sergio   for   Haddadi  ?

或

HAWES  for  Haddadi  ?

國王考慮一下吧


Likelihood of a Trade:  Well I actually think a Haddadi for Sergio swap could
be likely.  Haddadi fills a need for the Kings in the form of excellent
rebounding and shotblocking, and Sergio is an upgrade at their backup spot.
 With Tinsley expiring next year, they can offer Sergio the qualifying offer
and keep him as the primary backup.  Sergio would fit very well on a team
that has plenty of people who need their shots.  But other than a trade like
that, I don't think there is anything tangible here.

交易可能


我想Haddadi  for  Sergio 那一筆是有可能的

對雙方來說是各取所需

Haddadi是國王最哈的禁區長人

Sergio是灰熊要的到期約+板凳奇兵

並且今年Tinsley的約到期後他們能選擇用qualifying offer延長

Sergio的約

Sergio能解放灰熊的大量得分機器

但是除了這個稍微有點可能之外

其他跟灰熊的交易機會並不大


黃蜂


黃蜂缺少的

Team Needs: "A backup big man who can rebound a lot and defend a little.
 Scoring, passing, dribbling - that's all secondary.  He simply needs to
rebound and not let anyone get to the hoop who wants too and also a wing who
was capable of driving to the hoop.  The Hornets have pure shooters on the
wings, but need one other wing capable of driving to the hoop and scoring.
 The Hornets SF and SG positions are some of the weakest in the league, and
the only real option for the future is rookie Marcus Thornton."


一個可抓板防守的替補長人優先

至於會傳球得分這些技能倒是其次

還有他們需要側翼一個能帶球切入的人

他們的純射手太多

缺乏有自行取分能力的SG  SF

新秀Marcus Thornton大概是唯一合格的一位


Who Would You Want: "Of course I'd want to see Kevin Martin come over.  He'd
solve some of the wing problems instantly.  I just don't see the Hornets
willing to meet the price - which would probably include David West. Jon
Brockman could definitely be part of the solution to the Hornets weak
rebounding problem. Nocioni is also intriguing, but only if the Hornets can
cut some of their wing dead weight like Mo Pete and Peja at the same time."

想要的國王菜

KM,NOC  都能解決黃蜂 SG  SF  自行得分能力不足的問題

但KM黃蜂不會願意出到同等的菜如DAVID WEST

NOC的話黃蜂可能會想順便丟幾張濫約給國王

如PEJA , MO  P, 希望不要

另外洛克人也會是黃蜂非常想要要的菜



My Analysis: The Kings and Hornets have already been linked in a couple
rumors, involving Okafor and West, but Okafor is really the only Hornet I'm
at all interested in.  There's also the possibility of dumping both Cisco and
Noc's contracts for Peja's next year expiring, but this would simply add more
long term money to NOLA's budget.  I agree with section214 in thinking that
Okafor probably won't be given up for simply an expiring and Kevin or a young
piece would have to be involved.  Would I do it? Probably not, but the
possibility remains.

作者分析


之前有傳出國王有意Okafor跟West的傳聞

我對Okafor情有獨鍾

有另一個可能

國王丟CISCO跟NOC  去換  PEJA明年的到期約

但這樣黃蜂的薪資會一下變很多rown

我想我同意別人說的

黃蜂不是輕易就能唬弄得

想用一張到期約如K9 就能換到的

除非我們願意出KM  或其他潛力


Likelihood of a trade between us:  I think its not likely, but possible.  The
Hornets aren't as desperate to cut cash as they were, thanks to the Butler,
Armstrong, Devin and Bobby Brown trades, and now are actually under the tax.
 West doesn't really fit a need for the Kings, but I have to think that if
the Okafor to Sacramento rumors were true, that Geoff might try to see if
he's available again.

 交易可能 

有可能  但機率不高

黃蜂再做了幾筆小交易後  (R.Butler,Armstrong,Devin brown, Bobby Brown)

已經沒有太多立即要薪資紓解的問題

Okafor的交易還有一點點機會

Petrie應該試試看




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作者: kingpredrag (I love Man Utd!!!!!!!!!) 看板: Kings
標題: The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post (東南區)
時間: Fri Jan 29 11:09:20 2010

Atlanta Hawks
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/hawks.jsp

需          求：更好的外圍防守，在戰術掩護下有能力同時也懂得利用錯位優勢進攻的
                球員﹝更好的教練﹞。

想要的國王球員：卡卡和小湯，因為他們符合需求同時價錢合理。

分          析：老鷹的陣容很犯規，他們有很多我想要的球員﹝Josh Smith,Al Horford
                Jeff Teague,Marvin Williams﹞，但老鷹目前不可能賣，國王也沒有他
                們想要的球員。
                Pachulia可能國王會感興趣，不過他的合約很長，可用Cisco換Pachulia
                ，他的得分能力不錯而且才25歲，但他的防守和籃板都稱不上好。

可能成行的交易：兩隊沒有交易的可能，薪資和天份都不相符。


Charlotte Bobcats
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/bobcats.jsp

需          求：真正的大前鋒，可以取代或替補Diaw，更全面的中鋒。目前我們最好的
                中鋒是Diaw，因為他能夠保護籃板並作好禁區的工作，此外我們只剩功
                能性的長人，像是Chandler、Mohammed以及Diop，Derrick Brown是個
                有未來的菜鳥大前鋒，但他太矮了，有身高上的劣勢。

想要的國王球員：Larry Brown不會喜歡，但我希望馬丁可以打我們的二號位子搭配三號位
                子的船長，四號位的G蛙，五號的Diaw。非常有活力而且有錯位優勢的陣
                容，你們願意吞下小錢的合約讓這件事發生嗎？我也希望小湯來當我們
                的先發中鋒，但兩隊交易的可能性很低。

分          析：08年選秀我曾希望國王可以選到DJ Augustin，我很高興沒有成真。
                山貓有多中鋒，Mohammed、Chandler、Diop以及Ajinca，Ajinca是個年
                輕球員，封蓋能力佳，但在有限的數據中顯示他的籃板能力很糟。
                至於小錢呢？他的合約下季到期，他的能力非常符合國王的需求，但他
                目前仍在養傷，這讓我無法考慮他。我非常愛G蛙，上季關於大米換G蛙
                的傳言讓我非常興奮，但他目前的表現讓山貓無法割捨他。

可能成行的交易：交易可能性微乎其微，我有看過Beno換Diop的傳言，但依烏錐現在的表
                現，這對我們沒有好處。K9換小錢有機會，但他有傷痛疑慮。David想
                用DJ換小湯，但你覺得我們肯嗎？﹝目前我們不可能賣我們未來的禁區
                支柱﹞


Miami Heat 
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/heat.jsp

需          求：薪資空間、薪資空間、薪資空間。

想要的國王球員：他們只想要到期約，所以K9的合約有機會。

分          析：熱火可能是10年自由市場最具優勢的買家，不僅因為他們有足夠的薪資
                空間去簽一位超級巨星，像是LBJ、Bosh或阿罵，而且他們陣中就有一
                位超級巨星，他們可以提供Wade最好的合約而不用考慮薪資上限，他們
                也有一些年輕的球員像是Beasley和Chalmers，這兩位是他們不會賣的，
                此外他們並沒有適合國王的球員。

可能成行的交易：沒有，Lane說熱火不願意在2010年的薪資上添加任何負擔，因為他們需
                要空間去簽人，除了Wade外再簽一位大咖和一位中等的球員。所以他們
                只想要今年的到期約。


Orlando Magic
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/magic.jsp

需          求：奧蘭多現在缺的東西不是實質上的，而是精神戰力。他們有足夠的天賦
                ，魔術最近的戰績是九勝十一負，其中包掛四連敗和三場險勝。現在任
                合的交易對球隊而言都是一種冒險，因為有可能傷害場上的化學效應。
                由於傷病和一些疑慮的關係，魔術隊的四位全星星到現在只一起打過十
                二場比賽，戰績是五勝七敗，所以現在就談到交易是不成熟的。但長遠
                來看，魔術需要年輕的一、二、三號球員。Nelson是隊上最年輕的控衛
                ，但他已經28歲，而替補的Williams和Johnson的合約都在今年到期。
                Carter是二號位，替補是Pietrus(28)和Redick(25)。三號位是Pietrus
                和Barnes(30)，Barnes的合約下季到期﹝本季有選擇權﹞。

需          求：reke是對魔術幫助最大的球員，除了他以外就是馬丁和卡卡。馬丁兼具
                長程火力﹝生涯三分命中率39%，近三年皆在40%以上﹞和製造犯規能力
                ﹝生涯平均每場可以獲得6.4個罰球機會，06/07賽季升格為先發後，從
                未少於7.1個﹞，他能增加魔術的進攻效率，並釋放魔獸的單打空間。
                卡卡夠高﹝六呎九﹞，夠年輕﹝22歲﹞，可以擔任側翼也能提供板凳支
                援。Serge也不錯，開放式的控衛，像Walliams一樣喜歡快速節奏的打法
                ，但他的外圍投射不穩定，他發動球隊進攻的能力很強，會是好用的替
                補球員。

分          析：魔術有一些國王缺的球員，像是鍋貼和Bass，但鍋貼因為BYC的緣故不好
                交易，這傢伙可以在聯盟半數以上的球隊擔任先發。Bass在達拉斯時期
                我就很哈他了，他很像Millsap這類型的球員，但他的籃板並沒有想像中
                好。Ryn Anderson是個不錯的年輕球員，但他不適合國王，他很適合現
                在的魔術。

可能成行的交易：因為奧蘭多的薪資結構的關係，所以和他們做交易很難，由於龐大的薪
                資差異，我和Ben都想不出適合讓兩隊交易的方法。國王想要鍋貼的話勢
                必得去尋找第三隊來加入交易。誠如Ben所言，魔術現在沒有交易的可能
                ，因此我不期望和魔術做交易。



Washington Wizards
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/wizards.jsp

需          求：缺很大，年輕、天份、所有可以彌補攜槍事件所受傷害的元素。

想要的國王球員：﹝最想要的是reke﹞卡卡和小湯，馬丁是第三順位，Mike不看好馬丁和
                reke的組合，至少目前他沒看到有任何跡象。

分          析：巫師是今年最讓人失望的球隊，這支球隊本來是奪冠勁旅，我原本預估
                他們會是東區第四或第五。但現在他們開始嘗試甩賣隊上的大約，試圖
                重建，Arenas的合約是否會被終止？沒有人知道，我只知道巫師是交易
                大限前最有可能有動作的球隊，我喜歡McGee。

可能成行的交易：非常有可能發生，特別是巫師如果進入重整狀態，Mike提了一個不錯的
                交易，巫師出Haywood和Young換K9及10年前十順位保護的選秀權。也許
                國王覺得隊上年輕人夠多了，這交易就可能成行。國王需要防守好的中
                鋒，當Haywood成為自由球員後，球隊也可以簽他來幫助國王年輕球員
                的成長。如果McGee被放入包裹的話，國王的興趣會大為提升，但巫師不
                太可能這樣做。另外國王最好別碰Jamison和Bulter的大約。



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標題: The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post (西北區)
時間: Fri Jan 29 12:25:52 2010

orthwest Division:

Source: Andrew Feinstein, Co-Manager of Denver Stiffs

 Nuggets

Team Needs: "The Nuggets need more size upfront in the form of a legitimate
starting center or at least a solid backup center that would enable Nene to
play more power forward. The Nuggets only play three "big men", and our two
centers - Nene and Chris Andersen - are a bit undersized for the position
while our power forward - Kenyon Martin - is undersized at power forward. If
Nene could play more power forward, he'd be the second coming of Calvin Natt
circa 1985."

需求：金塊需要更多大型的前場，合格的先發中鋒或至少是夠硬的替補
能夠讓Nene多打大前鋒 金塊前場只有三個人的輪替
而我們兩位中鋒 Nene和鳥人都有undersized的問題
然而大前鋒Martin同樣是undersize的大前鋒
如果Nene能打到大前鋒那麼他將會是第二個 Calvin Natt

Who Would you Want: "Jason Thompson and Jon Brockman. If Thompson were the
Nuggets starting center, we'd be the best team in the Western Conference.
No doubt in my mind. Brockman, on the other hand, fits my "second round draft
pick power forward theory" to a tee: i.e. smart teams draft "undersized" power
forwards who were awesome in college in the second round and often reap the
benefits. In this year's draft, Brockman and DeJuan Blair are further proof of
my theory, just as Paul Millsap, Leon Powe, Carlos Boozer and countless others
have been in the past."

想要的國王球員：JT和Brockman，如果JT是金塊的先發中鋒
那麼我們就會是西區最好的球隊
另一方面Brockman正好符合我們的"二輪籤大前鋒理論 (這是?)"
例如：聰明的球隊用第二輪來選undersized並且在大學有非常好的表現的大前鋒
這樣的二輪籤通常都是物超所值的
在今年的的選秀Brockman和Blair都是本理論的最佳證明，
就像八百萬、Leon Powe、Boooooo和數不完的其他例子都是

My Analysis: The Nuggets have a pretty good roster, but not very many people
that I'd like. I love Nene and think he's one of the more underrated players in
the league, but the Nuggets aren't letting him go unless its for an upgrade,
which the Kings don't have.  In fact, all the Nuggets I like are probably not
going to be traded.  Johan Petro is a guy the Kings might like though, and
maybe Ime could be swapped for him.  Ime's better than Afflalo in my opinion.

分析：金塊有很多很好的球員，但喜歡的卻不多
我喜歡Nene，他是聯盟中被低估的球員之一
但是除非他的位子得到更好的球員否則金塊不會放他，然而國王沒有這樣的球員
說實在的，所有我愛的金塊球員都不太可能被他們交易
Johan Petro可能是國王可能喜歡的，但是可能得出到南哥，
另外我認為南哥比Affalo要來的優

Likelihood of a trade between us:  Not good. There just aren't any realistic
trades.  Here's what Andrew has to say on the matter: "I don't see a realistic
trade between our two teams. The Kings have some good things going for them
that they won't part with, and the Nuggets aren't taking back any of your bad
contracts."

可能的交易：不太好，沒有任何可行的交易
國王有些好物是不可能被放在交易當中的，然而金塊也不會想要任何一張不好的合約。

Timberwolves

Source: Zach Harper, Long Time Timberwolves Fan and Writer for Cowbell Kingdom

Team Needs: "The Wolves have no scoring. I mean, they have NO scoring. If
Jonny Flynn is off you can guarantee they aren't outscoring the other team.
Their biggest need is outside shooting. They would kill for guys like Casspi
and Greene because they would stretch the floor and slow teams from
double-teaming Al Jefferson so quickly. They also need defensive help inside.
You can't play Love and Jefferson together and expect them to get any stops.
As much as we all love Ryan Hollins and consider him to be the next Olajuwon,
they have nothing to stop players in the paint."

需求：灰狼沒有得分手。我的意思是他們不會得分。如果Flynn下場後
你可以保證他們不可能比敵對得更多分。他們最大的需求就是外圍的射手
他們會被卡卡和綠尼這樣的球員吸引，因為他們可以擴大對手的防守範圍
迫使他們不能太快包夾Big Al
他們也需要禁區的防守協助，你無法讓Love和Al一起在場上時期待他們送出任何封蓋。
儘管我們都喜愛Ryan Hollins並認為他是下一個Olajuwon，
但是他們還是沒辦法在禁區檔下分數。

Who Would You Want: "I think the Wolves could definitely use Dont? Greene and
Kevin Martin the most. They need to stretch the defense and give Flynn
someone to play off of other than Corey Brewer."

想要的國王球員："我認為灰狼絕對可以把綠尼和K$使用的最好
他們必須分散防守的注意力，讓Flynn可以和Brewer之外的球員一起合作

My Analysis: Reading up on the Timberwolves blog, I see parallels between Kings
and Wolves fans.  Both fans have a growing number of people who are becoming
disillusioned with their former star in favor of the new kid on the block
(Kevin Martin and Tyreke Evans in Sac, Al Jefferson and Kevin Love in
Minnesota).  The difference to me is, while Martin and Tyreke's games actually
complement each others, Love's and Jefferson's do not.  Now would Jefferson be
an upgrade to our frontcourt?  Yes.  But long term, I think it would simply
settle us into mediocrity and not anything special.  Zach thinks that Kevin
Martin and Spencer Hawes could be a realistic deal for Big Al, and even though
it looks like an improvement to some people, I'm not completely sure.  I would
be sort of ambivalent about such a trade until I saw how it worked out.  As for
other players on the Timberwolves roster, I want no part in any of it.  Flynn
is nice, but we have Tyreke.  T-Wolves aren't trading Love.  Everyone else is
pretty much garbage, although I liked Sessions during the summer, but he does
what Tyreke does, just not as well.

分析：讀了灰狼的部落格，我發現他的球迷和國王迷的相似之處
他們的數量都逐漸的成長，同時正從前球星的影子中走出來
而逐漸愛上隊上的年輕組合(K$、Evans和Al、LOVE)
對我而言，不同之處在於當K$和Evans的比賽表現出競爭 (互斥)
效應的時候，Al和Love的組合並沒有
那麼Al是不是能夠增強我們的前場戰力呢?答案是肯定的
但是長期來講，將很容易使我們逐漸流於平庸、平淡
提出K$+Hawes的包裹應該能讓我們得到Al，儘管這對某些人來說是有些幫助的
但我則不這麼肯定。我會覺得矛盾直到這組合真的打出來的那天
至於灰狼的其他球員，我對他們都不感興趣。Flynn很棒但我們已經有了Evans
灰狼不會交易Love，其他人就有點...
去年夏天我曾經很喜歡 Sessions，但他能做的Evans都可以完成，所以也不那麼需要了。

Likelihood of a trade between us: It depends on what you think of Minnesota
shopping Jefferson (evidenced by the Granger denial), and the Kings saying they
would only part with Martin for an All-Star caliber big man.  Also, Noc could
fill a need for them and we could trade him there for expirings. They'd at
least have someone who could hit a 3 and score the ball.  Even though I'm not
sure if I'm for or against it, I think its a possibility that Petrie and Kahn
have talked and will talk more about Martin for Jefferson.  We shall see.

可能的交易：這要看你認為灰狼銷售Al的這個動作代表甚麼?
國王已經聲明除非有明星級的大個子，才會考慮將K$放入交易名單
同時Noc可能能填補他們的需要，我們可以用他來換取到期約，
這樣他們至少能夠弄到可以砍三分並且得分的人
我認為兩邊的總管可能已經討論過K$單換Al的交易
儘管我不確定是不是該支持這樣的做法。

雷霆

Source: Zorgon, Manager of Welcome to Loud City

Team Needs: "Right now, most people's immediate concern is for a Center that
can provide a big defensive presence, since Nenad Krstic is completely soft,
Nick Collison is only of average talent, and Serge Ibaka is a big question
mark. Another helpful talent would be getting a good shooter, which this team
is almost completely devoid of. We mostly have players who drive to the hoop.
Other than that, I wouldn't mind swapping Jeff Green for a true Power Forward,
since he struggles against the bigger men in the game offensively."

需求：目前多數人會想到的便是「中鋒」，能夠提供大個子防守的人
由於Krstic非常的軟，Collison的天分普通，Ibaka是個大問號
另一個希望是一位優質的射手，因為我們大多數的球員都能夠切入取分
除此之外，我會考慮交易Green換回一個真正的大前鋒，因為當面對真正的大個子的時候
他的進攻便有點不知所措。

Who Would You Want: "Omri Casspi would be appealing, simply because he's a good
shooter. He could come off the bench and provide a dynamic to our offense that
we don't have at our current state of development. I'd also like to have
Spencer Hawes, because he's pretty much what Nenad Krstic should and can be.
He shoots from mid range and the perimeter, while not being completely useless
on defense and rebounding (Aykis' Note: I think some Kings fans would disagree
with you there Zorgon), like Nenad is."

想要的國王球員：卡卡很吸引人，就因為他是一位優質的射手。他能夠從板凳出發
對我們的進攻提供目前隊上所沒有改變。我也想要得到 Hawes
因為他遠超過Krstic能夠達到的水平，他能從中距離、外線投射，同時在籃板和防守端
也不是完全的沒有作用。

My Analysis: The Thunder are much like the Kings, although they're thriving
with their defense, not offense.  You would think Durant, Westbrook and Green
are pretty much untouchable, although if you had to pick one of those to make
available, you'd think it'd be Green.  Otherwise there are a couple guys I like
off their roster.  Serge Ibaka is a young, tough forward who sees limited time,
but is a good shotblocker and rebounder, two things the Kings need very much.
Thabo Sefolosha to me is the 2nd coming of Doug Christie.

分析：雷霆和國王更加地類似，雖然他們靠著防守，而不是進攻正在向上提升
你會認為雷帝，Westbrook和Green是根本不會動到的，但如果硬是要選一個
那麼應該是Green。除此之外，有幾個球員似乎已離開了他們的輪替表
Ibaka是一個年輕，夠硬的前鋒，上場時間受到限制，但是仍然是個很好的封蓋和籃板手
這兩個都是國王迫切需要的
Sefolosha對我而言，就是即將變身的Christie 2號。

Likelihood of a trade between us:  Probably not very likely.  The Thunder are
making a steady playoff push and relying on their defense to do it.  They only
have $39.5 Million in salary on the books next year, with none of the guys that
are coming off seen as integral parts of the team.  The Thunder could go out and
pay a guy like Brendan Haywood while continuing to develop BJ Mullens and grow
their team internally.  Its a strategy I hope the Kings employ, because it
seems like in the two most recent instances where its been tried (Portland and
OKC) its worked.

可能的交易：發生的可能性不高。雷霆正準備靠著他們的防守衝擊季後賽
明年他們一共只有39.5Million的薪資總合，核心的成員沒有一位要離開
在自由市場上，雷霆可能對Haywood直接出手，來協助BJ Mullens的發展
並且壯大他們的禁區。這是一個我希望國王能夠採取的策略
因為已經有兩個球隊嚐試並成功了 (阿拓和雷霆)。

阿拓

Source: Ben Golliver, Co-Manager of Blazers Edge

Team Needs: Bigs. Healthy Bigs. Young, Healthy Bigs. Cheap, Young, Healthy
Bigs.

需求：大個子，健康的大個子，年輕、健康的大個子，便宜年輕健康的大個子。

Who Would You Want: "If you're taking Reke out of the equation the three guys
the Blazers would be interested in are Hawes, JT and Brockman and I think those
are three pieces the Kings would be very reluctant to move."

想要的國王球員：除掉Evans，三個阿拓想要的就是Hawes、JT和Brockman
這三個是我認為國王最不願意動到的人。

My Analysis: The Blazers really don't have anyone that would interest me and
could possibly be available.  I was quite intrigued by Fernandez last year, but
Omri is pretty much doing what he's doing, I liked Sergio, now he's a King, and
Przybilla, who I think is very underrated, doesn't exactly have a clean bill of
health at the moment.  The Blazers almost have as bad a glut of wings as the
Kings do, so those guys are pretty much out of the equation as well.  And just
say no to Andre Miller.

分析：目前能動的人當中，阿拓並沒有任何吸引我的人手
去年我深深的被Fernandez給吸引，但是卡卡能做他會做的事
我喜歡Sergio，他也已經是國王人了
那麼大P，我認為最被低估的人，他的健康也令人存疑
阿拓的搖擺人塞車情形和國王不相上下，所以也不用討論了
最後只要和Miller說不就對了。

Likelihood of a trade between us: Ben says it best, "Maybe you could find a
swap of expiring contracts or 2nd round picks but I'm not sure there's a fit
anywhere past that."  There isn't anything concrete here.

可能的交易：可能妳會發現關於到期約還有二輪籤的交易，但我不確定有這麼作的空間
連八字都還沒一撇。

爵士

Source: Basketball John, Manager of SLC Dunk

Team Needs: "It seems like the needs of the Jazz change all the time.  We're
set at PG, so scratch that.  The backups are questionable there though.  We
don't need a PF as we already have Boozer in place for right now.  If he goes,
and that's looking like a bigger if every day, we have Millsap behind him. We
have a glut at the wing position right now with CJ Miles, Ronnie Brewer, Kyle
Korver, Wesley Matthews, AK-47. What we need though is probably another scorer
and a big man - at least a big man that Jerry Sloan will play."

球隊需求：爵士的需求似乎不斷的在改變。我們的控球固定了，但是替補則有所疑問
大前鋒上面已經有了Boooo，如果他離開，後面還有八百萬等著…
我們還有一大票的搖擺人…..
需要的可能是另一個得分手和大個子─但前提是是Sloan肯用的大個子。

Who Would You Want: "The Jazz do need another offensive threat and Martin would
fit the bill.  But his defense is suspect at best and that's been the focus of
the Jazz this year. A Deron Williams and Kevin Martin back-court is enticing
though."

想要的國王球員：爵士的確需要其他的進攻威脅，而K$絕對可以填補這個空缺
但是他的防守令人懷疑，而這點正是爵士今年的焦點
儘管如此，蝶龍加上K$的後場組合仍然是令人非常興奮的。

My Analysis: The Jazz have quite a few people I'm interested in. I've always
liked Kirilenko (not his contract though) and Kyrylo Fesenko is a nice, young,
cheap big with upside. Their other young big, Koufos, I don't like, because he
thinks he's Mehmet Okur, and he's not even close to being Spencer Hawes. The
Jazz are above the luxury tax, and they would need to clear about $5 million
from their books if they didn't want to pay the tax.  Getting rid of
Kirilenko's contract would be hard to do, but I think they would do it if they
could.

分析：爵士有很多球員是我感興趣的。我曾經很喜歡AK (他的約除外)
Fesenko是個很棒、年情、又便宜 (還有身高優勢) 的大柱子
另外一位年輕人 Koufos我並不欣賞，因為他把自己當成Okur
事實上他連Hawes都沾不上邊 (好慘…)
爵士已經超出了豪華稅門檻，同時他們還需要清掉大約5百萬，如果不想再繳豪華稅的話
清掉AK的約非常不容易，但我想如果可以他們會這麼做的。

Likelihood of a trade between us: I think its possible.  The Kings could be
interested in 3 things: AK47, Fesenko, and NY's draft pick.  John brings up one
of Bill Simmons Fake Trades: "Martin/Thomas to Utah for Andrei Kirilenko
(expires in 2011), Kyle Korver's EC, $3 million (not a problem because Utah
still saves $3.2 million with the difference in salaries, plus another $3.2
million in luxury-tax money) and the rights to New York's unprotected
first-round pick in 2010."  It's one of the better offers for Kevin, and if you
think about it, that would give the Kings the potential to draft a big and a
guard in the lottery next year (I know NY is only 1.5 games out of the 8th
spot, but I don't see them beating out Chicago or Milwaukee).  Guys like Willie
Warren or Xavier Henry would be available and we know how good Petrie is at
sniffing out talent.  We'll see what happens here.

可能的交易：我認為是有可能的。國王可能感興趣的地方有三：1.AK47、2.Fesenko
3.今年紐約的選秀權。John提出Bill Simmons的模擬交易
「K$+KT for AK47(明年到期)+ Korver(到期約)+3million (爵士不會拒絕
因為他們能夠藉這個動作省下原本的3.2M 還有原本豪華稅該付出的3.2M)
和紐約今年的第一輪」，這是我們能用K$換來不錯的東西
考慮一下，今年夏天國王能夠從樂透區內選進一個大個子，一個後衛
(我知道NY目前離第八只有1.5場，但我並不認為他們能打得比公牛或是公鹿更好)
可以選到Willie Warren或是Xavier Henry
我們都知道Petrie對於發掘天份有多在行，我們可以等著瞧會發生甚麼事。


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標題: The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post(太平洋組)
時間: Fri Jan 29 12:53:21 2010


勇士

Source: Rasheed Malek, Co-Manager of Warriors World


Team Needs:

"The most pressing need on the court is to get a big man who can
play in the post and be a presence.  Warriors have been looking at David West
this season as a potential acquisition but that hasn't materialized as of yet
and they passed on Amare Stoudemire over the summer which with each passing
day looks like a great move."


球隊需要:

迫切需要的是一隻能在禁區肆虐的大肉柱

本季勇士曾把大衛西列入考慮人選，不過還沒有定案

夏天的時候球隊放過了阿罵，現在看來這是正確的選擇


Who Would You Want:

"I've always been a huge fan of Francisco Garcia and
would love to see him play under Nellie in an uptempo system."


想要的菜:

Garcia我愛你，我想看你在老尼下面...打球


My Analysis:

The Warriors don't really have anything the Kings might want
other than Biedrins, who is probably the last person on that team they want
to move.  Other than Biedrins, Anthony Randolph is intriguing, but you would
think that the Kings would have just drafted him if they had any real
interest right?  Also, the Warriors would probably want to use Randolph in
potential blockbuster trades for guys like Bosh or Stoudemire, both of whom
they are actively pursuing.  I don't really want any of the rest of the
roster, which consists mainly of wings. Anthony Morrow is probably the best
shooter in the league but literally does nothing else.


作者分析:

大概只有Biedrins會讓國王感興趣，不過球隊不太可能賣他

再來大概就是A.Randolph了，可是他真的是國王需要的嗎?

再說了，勇士可能會用A.Randolph當做包裹

然後用在對Bosh或阿罵的交易裡，勇士對這兩隻一直念念不忘


剩下的球員名單都集中在鋒衛人才了，我可一點也不想要

Anthony Morrow算是聯盟的頂擊射手，但其他方面一無是處


Likelihood of a trade between us:

Very unlikely. Neither the Warriors or the Kings really have anything the other
needs, and according to Rasheed, the Warriors are probably going to try to go
after guys like Bosh, Stoudemire or Rudy Gay at the deadline.


交易可能性:

幾乎沒有


勇士與國王都沒有什麼彼此想要的菜

而且Rasheed說，勇士很可能會趕在交易截止前去追Bosh、阿罵或者Gay




快艇

Source: Steve Perrin, Manager of Clips Nation


Team Needs:

The biggest need is for Blake Griffin to come back healthy.  He's the future
and the team needs him at 100%.  Otherwise, the only other needs the Clippers
have are a strong wing player and a backup point guard.


球隊需要:

現在最大的願望就是狀元郎快好起來

他是快艇的未來而且球隊需要他的100%狀態

其他方面快艇需要強力的鋒衛球員，還有一隻替補PG


Who Would You Want:

"Omri Casspi is the one guy I'd covet on the roster other than Tyreke.
I love KMart, but he plays the same spot as Eric Gordon and is a similar
player.  Udrih is too expensive as a back point, Rodriquez is probably not an
upgrade over Telfair.  Jason Thompson is probably the other guy I'd want,
but he'd be joining a pretty young and deep front court, so I'm not sure it
would make sense."


想要的菜:

比起Tyreke，我更肖想卡卡

我愛KM，但是他的位置跟Eric Gordon重疊，而且兩個人差異不大

Beno拿來當替補顯然太貴，S-Rod未必會比Telfair更好


小湯是另外一個我比較想要的球員

但是他必須加入一個頗年輕且有一定程度的前場

我不確定這樣合不合理


My Analysis:

The Clippers have several guys the Kings could potentially be interested in.
They have a wealth of big men with Kaman, Camby, and DeAndre Jordan, as well as
Brian Skinner and Craig Smith.  Jordan would be the most intriguing to me,
but he's also likely the one the Clippers would least like to see go.
Eric Gordon is a phenomenal young shooting guard, and in my opinion, one of the
few players in the league that I would want back in a Kevin Martin trade.
Steve is right.  Gordon and K-Mart are very similar players, with Kevin being
better now, and also much more expensive.  If I were LA, I'd want to keep him.


作者分析:

快艇有不少人國王會想要

他們大個子很多，Kkman、勉族、DeAndre Jordan，還有皮膚人與Craig Smith

Jordan是我最有興趣的，不過快艇應該也不會想要放走他


Eric Gordon 是個傑出的年輕SG

以我個人來說，他是聯盟裡少數幾個球員我甘願用KM去換

Steve是對的，Gordon與KM是兩個極為相似的球員

KM現在比較優秀，但是也貴得多

如果我是快艇的話，我會留住他


Likelihood of a trade between us:

I wouldn't say its likely at all.  The Clippers are doing ok for themselves
right now at 18-22, without Griffin, and they have about $20 million dollars
worth of expiring contracts, so they'll have money to play around with during
the offseason, as well as another lottery pick.  I doubt we'll be seeing the
Clippers active much at all around the deadline.


交易可能性:

我不會說"很有可能"


快艇現在幹得還算過得去，少了狀元郎戰績仍有18勝22負

而且他們有大約20M鎂的到期約

他們季外將足夠的銀彈來操作，別忘了他們還會有一枚樂透籤

我想快艇在截止日前應該不會有什麼動作




湖人

Source: Chris Clark, Co-Manager of Silver Screen and Roll


Team Needs:
"Point guard is the Lakers biggest need.  Fisher is probably the worst starting
point guard in the NBA.  Farmar is ok, but inconsistent behind him, and Shannon
Brown really isn't a point guard.  After that, all the Lakers need is some
outside shooting, and some bench scoring."


球隊需要:

PG是湖人最大的洞，漁夫是全聯盟最爛的先發PG

農夫還OK，但是穩定度一直是個問題

香濃布朗根本不能算是個PG

除此之外，湖人還需要一些外圍火力，還有板凳深度


Who Would You Want:

"The two Kings that intrigue me the most are Omri Casspi and Spencer Hawes.
Hawes is the type of big man that should beg to play in the triangle.
Great passer, great outside shooter, he'd fit in to the PF role in the
triangle perfectly.
But the guy who has me absolutely salivating is Casspi.  He would solve so
many problems for the Lakers.  He'd provide scoring off the bench.  He seems
like he really knows how to finish on the break, which would allow our 2nd
unit to play a more up-tempo style that suits them.  And he's a better
shooter than anybody on our team."


想要的菜:

卡卡與阿屁是國王最讓我感興趣的兩位球員

阿屁這種大個子應該用來打三角戰術的

不錯的傳球者、不錯的外圍射手，他超適合打三角戰術裡的PF位置


不過我真正垂涎的是卡卡，他將會解決湖人不少問題

他可以提供板凳火力；且他在快攻的處理上不錯

這讓我們二軍可以打更適合他們的快節奏比賽

而且卡卡是個比我們隊上任何一人都好的射手"


My Analysis:

The Lakers don't really need to do anything to their team.  They could stay
exactly the same and still contend and likely win a championship.
Still, their bench does suck and they could use an upgrade there and at the
point guard position.  According to Chris, the Lakers would likely have no
interest in Udrih's contract, even though he'd likely be an upgrade at that
position, so that probably rules out Nocioni for expirings as well.  Sergio
is a possibility, maybe for DJ Mbenga.


作者分析:

其實湖人也不需要做什麼了

他們完全可以保持一樣的隊形，然後幹走冠軍

誠然，他們的板凳超廢，PG位置也需要補一補


根據Chris的說法

湖人對Beno的合約沒什麼興趣，儘管這個位置很需要提升

同樣的，酒駕的到期約也被排除在外

S-Rod倒是有機會，可能拿來跟 DJ Mbenga互換


Likelihood of a trade between us:

I'll let Chris take a gander: "I'm roughly 110% certain that the Lakers and
Kings will not be partners in a trade this off-season"  I have to say that I
agree. Nothing really makes sense, and I don't see why the Kings would want
to make the Lakers better without getting rid of a lot of money in a deal,
which isn't happening.


交易可能性:

我讓Chris看了一下

"我可以百分之一百一十肯定國王與湖人季外不會有交易"


我贊成他的說法

沒有什麼交易看起來有其合理性

而且我想不出任何理由國王會想讓湖人變更強，

結果自己卻沒有清掉足夠的薪資空間




太陽

Source: Phoenix Stan, Manager of Bright Side of the Sun

Team Needs:
"You could make the case that the Suns have needs at every position. The key
of course, being Amare Stoudemire. For all the flack he takes in Phoenix and
around the league for his defense, Amare is a top 5 PF/C in the league.
If the Suns extend Amare than that position is set and his presence on the
roster dictates the type of big men you surround him with. For example,
if Amare stays then Jason Thompson isn't a good pairing with him but Spencer
Hawes might be.


球隊需要:

你可以盡管提案，太陽在每個位置幾乎都有需求

當然最關鍵的，還是Amare Stoudemire

阿罵已經證明他是聯盟排名前5的PF/C


如果太陽讓出阿罵，那他在球隊所打的位子將會被卡死

阿罵是那種需要球隊圍繞著其位置轉的球員

舉例來說吧，如果阿罵留下來，那小湯就不會是他合適的搭配

但阿屁可能會是


The Suns right now are deepest at the two guard position with Jason
Richardson starting, Leandro Barbosa backing him up and of late, Goran Dragic
getting good minutes playing with Nash.


太陽現在在兩個後衛的人選上已經足夠

綠茶嬸先發，Barbosa當他替補，Dragic與Nash的合作效果不錯


The Nash/Dragic pairing is solid right now. Solid being an understatement
since Steve is playing at an extremely high level.


Nash和Dragic的搭配現在已經穩定

不過這還不夠形容Nash最近打出的高水準表現


The biggest concern I have is small forward. Grant Hill is fading before out
eyes. He doesn't seem to be able to sustain a high-level of play late in
games and his back up Jared Dudley is one of those rotation players that gets
exposed by playing too many minutes. He's best a 20 mpg guy. Behind them is
the #15 pick Earl Clark. Earl is full of talent and potential but at best is
a few years away from being an impact player and it is questionable if he
ever will be.


最大的憂慮在於小前鋒

Hill正在逐漸淡出，他看來並不適合負擔高強度的比賽

Dudley被操壞了，場均20分鐘會讓他最好發揮

15順位的Earl Clark充滿天賦與潛力

但是最好的情況也是在幾年之後成為一名有影響力的球員

問題是他會嗎?


Up front the Frye/Lopez/Amundson rotation is OK but just OK. Of late, Frye
has been in a slump and Robin has started to show real signs of improvement.
We might even see Lopez replace Frye in the starting line-up as soon as today
vs Memphis. All there are valuable rotation players but clearly no all-stars
in that mix (but Robin has the highest up-side of the bunch)."


Frye/Lopez/Amundson 這名單還OK，但也僅此而已

Frye最近正在低潮，Lopez則開始顯露進步的徵兆

我們甚至可能在今天對灰熊的比賽就看到Lopez取代Frye的先發

這些是有價值的好球員，但是沒有到全明星等級

(不過這票人裡Lopez有最大的成長空間)


Who Would You Want:
"I really like JT and in the past have been intrigued by potential trades that
sent Amare to the Kings for him and other parts but now that's not going to
happen because Amare isn't going to re-sign in Sacramento and you can't give up
talent to get a guy that won't stay.


想要的菜:

我很喜歡小湯，也曾經肖想過拿阿罵去跟國王換他外加一些配菜

不過現在不太可能實現了，因為阿罵不會想要續簽留在沙城

你總不能奢望人家放棄天份去拿個不想留下來的傢伙吧


Beyond that, I am not a big Kevin Martin fan and don't see any scenario in
which his coming to Phoenix makes sense. You've got some fun role player over
there like Casspi and Brockman and I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Garcia in
Suns uniform if the deal was right but let's face it, other than Tyreke
there's nothing on that Kings roster that is going to make me wet the bed in
excitement. "


我不是KM的狂熱球迷，也找不到有什麼方案讓他來鳳凰城是合理的

你們有許多有趣的功能球員，比如說卡卡和癡漢

我也不反對Garcia穿上太陽制服


不過讓我們面對現實吧

除非Tyreke來太陽，否則不管國王出什麼菜都不可能讓我爽到高潮


My Analysis:
There are two people I'd be at all interested in from Phoenix: Amar'e
Stoudemire and Robin Lopez.  Obviously the easier one to trade for is Lopez,
but I still don't see a deal that makes sense.  Lopez is not a good rebounder
but he's an excellent shot blocker and still has upside.  Phoenix's style might
also not be conducive to a Center like him.


作者分析:

有兩個人吸引了我對鳳凰城的所有興趣:阿罵與Lopez

很明顯的要搞到Lopez會簡單得多，但我也不覺得這交易有必要

Lopez抓籃板不太行，不過阻攻很不錯也還有成長空間

太陽的球風恐怕也不利於他這類型的中鋒成長


Likelihood of a trade between us:
None. I just don't see anything getting done. Salaries don't match up, needs
don't really match up.  Unless there was another team involved, I don't see
anything happening here.


交易可能性:

沒有


我找不到橋得攏的地方啊

薪資無法對等，也沒有彼此需要的

除非有第三方摻和進來，目前我還沒看到類似情況


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作者: felmizan (飛鳶) 看板: Kings
標題: The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post (中央組)
時間: Fri Jan 29 22:14:29 2010

Chicago Bulls
Source: Stormin' Norman Disciple of Pippen Aint Easy and Not Qualified to
Comment

Team Needs: "As has been much publicized, the Bulls biggest obvious need is a
scoring big man since they are so reliant on the mid-range jumper.  The other
need that I have spoken about constantly on NQTC is a big guard that can
shoot the 3.  No one can score from 3-point land on the Bulls right now (and
don't say Salmons, he's not the same Salmons as last year)."

需求：公牛需要的是一個能擅長中距離得分的人；再來是會投三分的後衛(NQTC不知道是
指什麼)。目前公牛沒有人會投三分，而且鮭魚也不是去年的那條鮭魚了。

Who Would You Want: "Kevin Martin and Andres Nocioni.  I know Noce isn't
hitting 3s as much this season, but even his bad % would be great for the
Bulls."

想要的國王球員：小馬丁和酒駕。雖然酒駕今年三分投得不多，但他的命中率對公牛也夠
用了。

My Analysis: The Bulls have one guy I am very interested in: Tyrus Thomas.
 Thomas is a very athletic, young PF, with great shotblocking ability and
decent rebounding.  He hasn't yet played with any consistency, but Chicago
has been very down on him, and are reportedly willing to shop him.  Perhaps
Noce and Beno could be given for Tyrus and Kirk, but Kirk's salary is quite
ridiculous for someone who really isn't that good.  The Kings could
definitely use Noah, but he's probably untouchable.

分析：我對公牛的Tyrus Thomas很有興趣。T. Thomas是一個健壯年輕的PF，火鍋能力很
好、籃板還不錯。

Likelihood of a trade between us: It's possible, especially if the rumors of
the Bulls still liking Nocioni are true.  The thing about a trade with
Chicago though is that someone is going to have to take on a bad contract.
 Chicago doesn't want to ruin too much of its cap space for next year.  I
think the Kings will definitely take a long look at Tyrus and see if trying
to make a deal for him is worth it. Other than Tyrus though, there's nobody
that the Bulls might be willing to deal that the Kings might want.

可能的交易方案：這蠻有可能發生的，特別是如果公牛對酒駕有興趣的乳摸是真的的話。
和公牛交易的話有人就必須吃下爛約。公牛不太可能破壞他們明年的薪資空間，我想國王
可能會好好的觀察T. Thomas並評估值不值得。除了T. Thomas，沒有國王想要而公牛願意
給的。

Cavaliers
Source: John Bena, Manager of Fear the Sword

Team Needs: " If the Cavaliers have needs it seems they change on a
day-to-day basis.  A week ago I would have said the Cavaliers need a PF that
could score and stretch defenses out of the lane to give LeBron more room to
do what he does attacking the basket.  Then Mo Williams and Delonte West got
hurt.  That leaves the back-court of the Cavaliers incredibly weak.  The Cavs
are now 3-0 without Williams, 2-0 without West, including wins over the
Lakers, Thunder and Heat.  The Cavs look like they are going to try and get
through it, but fans should suspect down-to-the-wire games like we saw
against the Heat until the Cavs get healthier."

需求：一星期以前我認為騎士需要一個PF，能得分、能拉大對手防守圈好讓LBJ有空間切
入。但是後來Mo和Delonte West受傷，這讓後場變得異常地弱。騎士在沒有Mo的時候3-0
，沒有West的時候2-0，包括贏了湖人、雷霆、熱火。騎士看起來在調整好度過這段時期
，但是球迷在全員到齊前就只能看到比數咬得很緊的比賽了。

Who Would You Want: "Right now, only one player peaks my interest - Kevin
Martin.  Martin would supply the Cavaliers another scoring threat, something
they can never have enough of.  Bringing in Martin would take further
pressure off LeBron and would allow James to work more from the post where he
is really unstoppable, if he really focused on staying down there."

想要的國王球員：目前看來只有馬丁，馬丁可以為騎士提供前所未有的進攻威脅。而且還
能吸引LBJ留下來。

My Analysis: The Cavaliers are only going to focus on trades that will help
them win a championship, and perhaps not even then, as they're currently on
pace to finish with the best record in the league again.  But whatever trade
they do would have to be a talent upgrade for them.  They would love to have
Kevin Martin, but there isn't anyone on the Cavs roster other than James that
is better than Martin.  They could perhaps be interested in Nocioni as a
stretch 4, but I doubt it.  Too much long-term salary for someone who isn't
nearly as good of an option as Troy Murphy or Antawn Jamison.  Now there are
a couple of people I like on the Cavs: JJ Hickson, and Leon Powe.  The thing
about a Hickson is he's a good scorer, but lacks enough defending and
rebounding, and Powe is coming back from another huge injury and won't be
available to play till February.

分析：騎士在尋求可以協助他們奪冠的人，或是創下聯盟最佳戰績。和他們的交易一定要
有天分提升，他們要馬丁，但是他們能超越馬丁的只有LBJ。騎士可能會想要酒駕，但我
很懷疑。太多其他的長約比酒駕更好，比方說Troy Murphy or Antawn Jamison。我對騎
士的JJ Hickson, and Leon Powe比較有興趣。Hickson是一個得分好手，但防守和籃板不
好；Powe因傷的問題到二月以前都不能打。

Likelihood of a trade between us:  Very, very unlikely.  The Cavs might be
willing to throw a Powe or Jawad Williams for Sergio, but I don't see why the
Kings would do it when there would likely be other better options.  Kevin
Martin would be perfect on Cleveland next to James, but the Cavs would
definitely need other teams to be involved since they have nobody the Kings
would want for Martin.  The Cavs are focused on a Championship now so they
can convince LeBron to stay.  Martin is pretty much the only player on the
roster that would help them do that, and he's not going to Cleveland.

可能的交易方案：非常不可能。騎士會想用Powe和Jawad Williams換SROD，不過在沒有更
好的提案下，我想不出國王為什麼要換。馬丁在騎士是僅次於LBJ的人。騎士可能要找第
三隊加入吧，不然他們沒有我們值得換馬丁的人。騎士想要問鼎冠軍好讓LBJ留下來，馬
丁大概是騎士陣營中唯一一個可以幫到這件事的人，而他不會去克里夫蘭。

Pistons
Source: Brian Packey, Co-Manager of Detroit Bad Boys

Team Needs: "Some Pistons fans think the team needs a true point guard
because Rodney Stuckey is not the guy, but I think that's still up in the
air. What this team really needs, and I think all Pistons fans can agree on
this, is a big man that can score and match up with the other bigs, like KG
and Dwight Howard. Charlie Villanueva, somewhat surprisingly, is very
efficient in the post, but he's a stretch forward like Rasheed Wallace was.
Ben Wallace can defend with the best of them, but he's not a scorer and he
won't be around much longer."

需求：活塞球迷認為他們需要一個真正的控球後衛，因為Stuckey並不是。但我想一切還
沒決定。這個球隊需要而球員願意的，只有能像KG、Howard那樣能得分能防守的大個子。
Villanueva很意外的在未來很有效，但他是一個中長距離的前鋒，像溪蛙一樣。班蛙可以
防守，但他不會進攻，而且他也不可能待太久。

Who Would You Want: "You sure we can't have Evans? First guy that gets my
attention is Spencer Hawes. He's young, he can score (from all over, too),
and maybe most important, he's a seven footer. He kind of reminds me of
Mehmet Okur, who coincidentally the Pistons had when they won the 'ship in
2004. Other than Evans and Hawes, I'd love to have Kevin Martin (who I had
the pleasure of seeing play all the way back when he was at Western
Carolina), but that's just not feasible considering the Pistons have more
than enough guards as is. Casspi is another guy that has brought up on our
site as a guy the Pistons maybe shouldn't have passed on in the first round.
Despite the numbers being in favor of Casspi, I don't know if I would make
the trade-off."

想要的國王球員：你確定我們不能有Evans？首先我想到的是小屁孩，他年輕、他可以得
分、而且最重要的，他七呎(XDD)。他讓我想起Okur，他在活塞奪冠時正好在隊中。除了
Evans和小屁孩，我想要馬丁。但那是一個不可行的想法，因為活塞的後衛多到滿出來。
小卡是另一個可能，他是那種活塞第一輪不會放過的球員。僅管很多人支持換小卡，但我
不確定是否會施行。

My Analysis: The Pistons probably want to get rid of at least one, if not
both, of the combo of Rip Hamilton/Tayshaun Prince.  Both those guys are
eating up a lot of cap space, play the same position as new member Ben
Gordon, and are on the downswing of the careers.  I also don't want the Kings
anywhere near those guys.  Maxiell looks like he could be what we need on
paper, but honestly he's not a starter quality player and yet he makes $5
million a year for 3 more years.  The only guy I could see the Kings trying
to make a move for in my opinion? Kwame Brown.  Yes, he's a bust, but right
now he's a cheap center who is a good defensive rebounder and decent interior
defender.

分析：活塞想丟掉Rip和小王子中至少一個，兩個更好。這兩個都開始吃薪資空間了，表
現也下滑了，而且同個位置還有Ben Gordon。我也不覺得國王會要這樣的球員。Maxiell
看起來是我們需要的球員，但他不是一個好先發，而且接下來三分還要吃掉五百萬。唯一
可能的是Kwame Brown。雖然沒有很強，但他是一個便宜的中鋒，有好的防守籃板和內線
防守。

Likelihood of a trade between us: Not good. If the Kings did want to acquire
Brown, all it would take would be Hilton Armstrong, thanks to the 125% rule
and it would save the Pistons a little bit of money, which could be something
they're looking for, since reports are that the team is for sale.  Other than
that though, I don't see the Kings wanting any of the Pistons big contracts,
and I don't see the Pistons willing to give up any of their young, cheap guys.

可能的交易方案：沒什麼好選擇，但如果國王要誇米，那可能要出到阿姆斯壯，而125%的
規則可以幫活塞省到一點錢，自從活塞打算賣球隊後，他們就對這些事很感興趣。我看不
出國王會想要活塞的大約，而活塞也不可能放棄他們的年輕便宜球員。

Pacers
Source: Tom Lewis, Manager of Indy Cornrows

Team Needs: "Need assets in the form of young talent, expiring money for cap
space or draft picks. The Pacers have big contracts in Troy Murphy, Mike
Dunleavy, Jeff Foster, T.J. Ford and Jamaal Tinsley that all come off the
books after the 2010-11 season so all of those players are available (not
Tinsley obviously, but the rest) for the right deal."

需求：溜馬需要一些年輕的天分、到期約和選透權。目前Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy,
Jeff Foster, T.J. Ford and Jamaal Tinsley身上都有大約，但都在2010-11結束，所以
這些人都可以交易。

Who Would You Want: "Two Kings I'd like to see the Pacers acquire and why: 1.
Kenny Thomas for his $8.7 millions expiring contract 2. Kevin Martin - Danny
Granger needs another consitent scoring option to run alongside and the
Pacers have done well in the past with shooting guards with a strange
release. Also, Martin always seems to light it up at Conseco Fieldhouse so
why not try it for 41 games."

想要的國王球員：KT，因為他的到期約；馬丁，因為妙麗需要一個幫手。同時馬丁也能替
Conseco Fieldhouse增添光彩。

My Analysis: Danny Granger is possibly my favorite player in the league who
hasn't donned a Kings jersey.  I would love a Martin for Granger swap, but
Larry Bird would hang up the phone almost immediately.  Troy Murphy would
actually be a big help for the Kings, since he can hit his shots and is an
absolutely phenomenal defensive rebounder, and not a bad defender either,
although he doesn't block shots.  K-9 for Murphy would work, but the Cavs
could and probably would outbid us.  We all know how underrated a rebounder
Jeff Foster is as well, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Kings Uni if we
could unload Noc for him, but the Pacers aren't looking to add money.  I
don't want to be anywhere near Dunleavy or Ford, both players who don't
really deserve their contracts.  Tom thinks that Ford could work well next to
Evans, but I'd rather have Kevin Martin any day of the week.  Hibbert and
Hansbrough are nice young pieces, but the Kings could have had Hibbert if
they wanted and stuck with JT instead.  Hibbert is also probably considered
untouchable by Bird unless something blows him over.

分析：妙麗是我在聯盟中除了國王以外最喜歡的球員。我會願意用馬丁換妙麗，但是大鳥
聽到應該會立刻掛我電話。Murphy對國王會很有幫助，因為他可以進攻也會搶籃板，防守
也不差(即使火鍋不行)。KT換Murphy或許可行，但騎士可能會搶贏我們。我們都知道
Jeff Foster的籃板能力被低估了，我也不介意拿酒駕換他。至於Dunleavy和Ford相較於
他們的約就不值得了。有人認為Ford會是Evans的好幫手，但我比較想看到馬丁來做。
Hibbert和Hansbrough都是好的年輕球員，但是弄來Hibbert必需要動到JT。而且Hibbert
看起來是大鳥不想放的人。

Likelihood of a trade between us: I definitely see Troy Murphy moving at the
deadline, and I think the Kings could definitely be interested.  He doesn't
really help our Interior D, but he's a better interior defender than JT or
Spencer, and one of the best defensive rebounders in the league, which would
help us tremendously.  The Kings could probably offer something more
palatable to the Pacers than the Cavs as well, since K-9's expiring would be
less money than Murphy's contract and the only expiring the Cavs have is Z,
who is at $11.5 million.  The Pacers would shave some long term money dealing
Murphy for Z, but they would lose some short term, while they would gain some
short term money by dealing for K-9.  The Kings could also probably sweeten
the deal with Sergio for Earl Watson or something.  Foster could be another
player the Kings go after.

可能的交易方案：我確定Troy Murphy會被交易，同時我相信國王有興趣。他並不會幫到
我們內線的防守，但他內線防守比JT和小屁孩強，同時也是聯盟中的防守籃板好手，這對
我們幫助很大。國王可以出比騎士更誘人的選擇，因為K9代表著省錢，而騎士大Z雖然也
是到期約，但更大張。換K9的話短期之內就能省下錢，而且國王可能還可以出到Srod去換
Earl Watson等。Foster是另一個國王想要的人。

Bucks
Source: Frank Madden, Manager of Brew Hoop

Team Needs: "I'd say our major needs are a wing scorer (esp. with Redd done)
and an athletic 4/5 (someone who can block shots, rebound, maybe hit an open
15-footer)... What they need more than anything is to hit another home run in
the draft, but their decent start to this season may end up being a bit of a
curse in the long run given where they'll probably end up drafting.  This
draft has a ton of quality PFs, but I'm guessing the Bucks won't be bad
enough to get a guy like Favors or Ed Davis."

需求：主要的需求是得分手或體能內線，然而他們更需要一次成功的選秀，只是他們目前
的先發好像不太幫忙。明年選秀有很多好大前鋒，但公鹿不夠差到去爭取Favors或Ed
Davis。

Who Would You Want: "Looking at the Kings roster, obviously a healthy Kevin
Martin would look great on any roster but I really don't know if the Bucks
would add another big contract while Redd is still on the books.  I'm a fan
of Jason Thompson, but I don't see an obvious deal that makes sense for both
teams...I assume you guys would need to be bowled over.  Among role players,
Garcia would be interesting if he was healthy, but his contract and health
status probably make that a non-starter."

想要的國王球員：看來看去一個健康的馬丁是最好的選擇，但我不確定公鹿在麥克紅之後
還會想要一張大約。我是JT的球迷，但似乎沒有一個對雙方球隊都合理的方案。老賈如果
健康的話，也是一個可能的人選，但是他的約和健康情形大概不像是個先發。

My Analysis: The Bucks are in a bad spot with Redd's second MCL injury.  His
contract is huge and its blocking them from being anything other than MLE
players next year.  Of their other contracts, only Dan Gadzuric's could be
considered bad.  I like Ersan Ilyasova a lot (I think he's the Turkish Lamar
Odom), but I don't see a trade that could work out there, and Omri Casspi
does a lot of what he does.  Mbah ah Moute is nice, but Donté does a lot of
what he does now, and with better scoring.

分析：麥克紅受傷對公鹿損失慘重，而且這張大約對公鹿明年爭取中產球員也造成困難。
我喜歡Ersan Ilyasova，但是似乎沒有可行的方案。

Likelihood of a trade between us: Slim to none.  I guess the Kings could swap
Nocioni for Gadzuric's somewhat shorter contract, but Gadzuric, although a
decent shotblocker and rebounder, is not that good of a player.  Frank takes
it from here: "Overall, I wouldn't be disappointed if the Bucks simply stand
pat, clear their expirings, draft well and see if they can get a guy like
Childress with an MLE deal this summer.  At this point I don't see them
making a trade that significantly upgrades the roster, but they do have some
usable young pieces and expiring deals."

可能的交易：看來機會不大。大概就是用酒駕換Gadzuric把約換短一點，可是Gadzuric不
大強。目前看起來是不可能有大幅度的加強，但是他們確實有一些年輕球員和到期約。

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