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This was an interesting question that I decided to examine further. So I
used the great statistical site, Hoopdata.com to gather a team’s starting PG
shooting percentage from 10-23 feet:
這是在講一個很有趣的問題，就是用Hoopdata.com的資料來看球隊的先發PG在10-23呎的
命中率。
Team Player 10-23
Suns Nash 49%
Heat Arroyo 49%
Hornets Paul 47%
Bulls Rose 45%
Cavs Mo 44%
Warriros Curry 43%
Wizards Foye 43%
Rockets Brooks 43%
Magic Nelson 42%
Jazz Deron 42%
Lakers Fisher 41%
Hawks Bibby 41%
Sixers Holiday 41%
Raptors Jack 40%
Nuggets Billups 39%
Nets Harris 39%
Mavs Kidd 38%
Pistons Stuckey 37%
Spurs Parker 37%
GrizzliesConley 37%
Bobcats Felton 37%
Clippers Davis 37%
Celtics Rondo 36%
Pacers Walson 36%
Thunder WestBroo36%
Blazers Miller 36%
T-wolves Flynn 35%
Kings Evans 35%
Bucks Jennings30%
Knicks Duhon 29%
I chose that range because I think that is where a PG gets most of his shots
when he comes off the screen while handling the basketball.
選擇那範圍是因為覺得那是PG控球時透過單擋後最多投球的地方。
Poor Shooting PGs with Good “PNR – Ball Handler” Numbers
投籃爛但是PNR很不錯的PG
After finding the shooting percentage of the starting point guards for the 30
NBA teams (For teams with multiple starters, I used the PG who started the
most games), I went through each player’s Synergy page to determine their
individual “PNR – Ball Handler” points per possession:
在找30隊的先發PG的投籃命中率後，再去看他們各別的PNR-Ball Handler的PPP
Team Player 10-23Rank BH PPP
Suns Nash 1 .99
Nuggets Billups 15 .95
Hornets Paul 3 .94
Bulls Rose 4 .94
Raptors Jack 14 .94
Heat Arroyo 2 .89
Jazz Deron 10 .89
Magic Nelson 9 .89
Wizards Foye 7 .88
Spurs Parker 19 .88
Cavs MO 5 .86
Lakers Fisher 11 .85
Blazers Miller 26 .85
Celtics Rondo 23 .85
Bobcats Felton 21 .84
Kings Evans 28 .83
Warrior Curry 6 .81
Rockets Brooks 8 .81
Nets Harris 16 .79
Grizzlies Conley 20 .79
Sixers Holiday 13 .79
Thunder WestBrook 25 .78
Clippers Davis 22 .77
T-Wolves Flynn 27 .77
Bucks Jennings 29 .76
Hawks Bibby 12 .73
Pistons Stuckey 18 .73
Knicks Duhon 30 .71
Mavs Kidd 17 .67
Pacers Watson 24 .58
The one player that sticks out when looking at this chart is Chauncey
Billups. Billups ranks 15th among all starting point guards in shooting
percentage from 10-23 feet, shooting 39%. However, when it comes to
individual points per possession coming out of the “Pick and Roll – Ball
Handler” set, he ranks second with 0.95 points per possession. So how is
Billups able to be successful coming off screens while not shooting the ball
terribly well? He gets to the rim:
現在來看的是槍西，槍西在先發pg在10到23呎的命中率排第15，命中率39%。當換來看到
PNR - Ball Handler的各別的PPP時，以.95PPP排第二。所以槍西是如何在單檔後投籃不
佳的情況下成功。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esq0rfvsWl4&feature=player_embedded
這是槍西的影片。
Going through Billups makes coming off a screen, you notice a good amount of
them are layups. Billups is always looking to get to the rim rather than
settling for jumpers. He’s also crafty enough to get to the rim on a
consistent basis. In the play above Billups uses a brilliant hesitation move
that forces the defender to come at him like he is taking a shot, however he
doesn’t even give up his dribble and he is able to finish at the rim.
槍西透過一個單檔後，你會注意到一大部分都是上籃。槍西總是往裡面切而不是跳投。他
也足夠狡猾地能夠往裡面鑽。在上面的play槍西用一個聰明的移動使得防守者誤以為他要
投籃，其實他沒有停止運球，所以能夠切入。
Poor Shooting PGs with Good Team “PNR – Roll Man” Numbers
In addition to looking at individual “PNR – Ball Handler” to determine the
success of a pick and roll, I also like to look at the team’s roll man
numbers. This is because hitting the roll man is the second option for PGs
when running the pick and roll. Here are the numbers:
除了用各別的Ball Handler來判定一個PNR的成功與否，還喜歡看球隊的roll man數字。
因為傳給roll man是PG在跑PNR時的第二個選擇。以下是數據。
Team Player 10-23Rank PNR RM PPP Rank
Knicks Duhon 30 1.28 1
Suns Nash 1 1.18 2
Jazz Deron 10 1.15 3
Magic Nelson 9 1.14 4
Raptors Jack 14 1.14 5
Hornets Paul 3 1.12 6
Hawks Bibby 12 1.09 7
Pacers Watson 24 1.09 8
Nuggets Billups 15 1.07 9
Clippers Davis 22 1.05 10
Warriros Curry 6 1.04 11
Mavs Kidd 17 1.04 12
Bobcats Felton 21 1.04 13
Celtics Rondo 23 1.04 14
Bucks Jennings 29 1.04 15
Spurs Parker 19 1.03 16
T-wolves Flynn 27 1.02 17
Wizards Foye 7 1.01 18
Lakers Fisher 11 0.99 19
Nets Harris 16 0.98 20
Pistons Stuckey 18 0.98 21
Grizzlies Conley 20 0.98 22
Blazers Miller 26 0.98 23
Thunder Westbrook 25 0.97 24
Heat Arroyo 2 0.96 25
Cavs MO 5 0.96 26
Sixers Holiday 13 0.96 27
Kings Evans 28 0.93 28
Bulls Rose 4 0.92 29
Rockets Brooks 8 0.91 30
I am going to be completely honest here, I was surprised to see the Knicks
top this list, especially since Chris Duhon is the worst shooting starting
point guard in the league. Before doing this, I thought that most teams who
are successful hitting roll man would have a good shooter running the point.
This is because teams would hedge and double hard, preventing the open
jumper and leaving the roll man open. However, this shows me if you have a
good player rolling off the screen, that seems to be more important than who
is running the point. The Knicks are a perfect example of that:
我在這邊必須完全地誠實，我很驚訝看到尼克在這個表最上面，尤其因為Duhon是聯盟中
先發PG投籃最爛的。在做這個之前，我認為大部分能夠成功讓roll man投進的球隊都是有
一個好的射手來跑這戰術。這是因為球隊都會設下障礙和包夾，避免有空檔跳投的機會，
但這就會讓roll man有空檔。但現在覺得有一個好的球員來做單檔，似乎比誰來主跑戰術
來得更重要。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKsRcqjwzz8&feature=player_embedded
David Lee plays center for the Knicks, and while that move has its
disadvantages, an advantage is that Lee gets matched up against most teams
centers when he is on the offensive end. This means that he is quicker than
most people defending him, and he plays the PNR like he knows that advantage.
You will never see Lee set a solid screen, because most of the time he is
rolling before his point guard even gets around it. This leads to Lee
getting to the rim and getting the basketball in scoring areas before the
help can come. Which is exactly what happens in the play above.
李在尼克主打中鋒，這有好有壞，好的就是李在進攻時候會遇到其他大部分球隊的中鋒，
這代表著他比大部分防守他的人還要快，他跑PNR時就像他了解那優勢。你絕不會看到李
設下一個很紮實的單擋，因為大部分他在PG繞過去前就先roll(這不是跟Hawes一樣嗎)。
這使得李能夠在幫忙來到前就先衝進去得分。
So Can You Have A Poor Shooting PG & An Effective Pick And Roll
所以能夠有一個投籃不好的PG來跑一個有效率的PNR嗎？
The answer seems to be yes, but only with the right personnel. Either you
need to have a PG crafty enough to get himself to the rim when coming off of
screens, or you need a good/mobile screener who can roll quick enough to give
his team and advantage.
答案似乎是可以的，但只有在有對的人的情況下。你需要有一個夠狡猾的PG可以自己透過
單擋往裡面衝，或者有一個好的/敏捷的單擋的人能夠快速地的roll。
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