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http://0rz.tw/f5jMO Three months after posting our initial impressions of Hassan Whiteside’s freshman season (our first scouting report on him actually came back in 2008), the dust has settled and has allowed us a much clearer picture of his strengths and weaknesses. 三個月前我們曾經介紹過白邊 如今隨著比賽的進行 我們慢慢的能揭開他神秘的面紗 Whiteside has emerged about as quickly as a prospect can when looking at where he was this time last year—a raw, rail-thin, anonymous big man coming off the bench in prep school, committed to play for a small Conference USA team in West Virginia. Whiteside faced significant question marks regarding his ability to even get eligible at Marshall from an academic standpoint, and was not receiving very much attention from the recruiting services. 嫩 , 高, 瘦 , 白邊去年這個時候就很受到矚目了 他承諾要爲一間私立學校打球 但是他的成績卻讓他差點無法入學 並且學校球員招募處對他並沒有特多興趣 Fast-forward a year and Whiteside is fresh off being named C-USA’s top freshman and defensive player of the year, after leading the NCAA in blocked shots. He’s elevated his NBA draft stock significantly in the process, to the point that he’s being mentioned by many as a potential lottery pick and perhaps even higher. 他的第一年就成為了C-USA’的頂尖新人 當他成為NCAA火鍋王後他當選年度最佳防守球員 他提升了自己的NBA順位 他的身價目前已經來到了樂透區 甚至 更高的位置 Whiteside has progressed notably as the season moved on, seeing increased playing time and shouldering a bigger share of the offensive load for Marshall. Though he remains largely an unpolished prospect, particularly in terms of his footwork, post-moves and decision making ability, he shows flashes of potential in many different areas, namely his ability to put the ball on the floor, knock down mid-range jumpers and utilize his tremendous length to score inside. 白邊在Marshall大學開季時就展現了進步 上場時間增加, 進攻的責任也增加 但他還有很多顯而易見很嫩的地方 單打腳步,決策能力 同時他也有巨大的潛力 他有很棒的身材 能將球搞進籃框 同時他已經擁有了中距離跳投 Extremely aggressive looking to make things happen on the offensive end, Whiteside gets to the free throw line at an excellent rate, converting 60% of his attempts once there, and does an outstanding job of crashing the offensive glass and finishing around the rim. He has very good touch around the basket, as well as from the perimeter (even knocking down a couple of 3-pointers this season), clearly showing better scoring instincts than your typically raw mid-major big man. The terrific extension he gets around the rim, excellent shooting mechanics and high-release point on his turnaround jumper all leave plenty of room for optimism regarding his offensive potential once he’s able to fill out his lanky frame a bit. 進攻端他有很多值得期待之處 很能要到犯規 擁有禁區一人敵的潛力 放籃跟投籃的手感都很好 (甚至能投三分) 得分能力比想像中的只能投中距離的長人更好 進攻方面 恐怖的籃下能力+外圍投籃手感+高出手點別人蓋不到 讓他在進攻端上有恐怖的潛力可以開發 Whiteside’s weaknesses as a prospect are often just as glaring as his strengths. His main issue revolves around his extremely underdeveloped frame, which hinders him on the offensive end, but more importantly makes him a constant target for post-up plays and renders him an exceptionally poor man to man defender against average college big men. Whiteside gives up deep position in the post with the greatest of ease--seemingly not even fighting back at times-- getting out of his stance quickly, bringing his hands down, and downright giving up on plays, thinking he’ll simply be able to recover and come up with a block, which at this level can indeed be the case on occasion. 他的缺點也很明顯 主要身材過瘦,要練 這個缺點讓他在打低位時吃不開 並且在1對1防守時連一些平均水準的大學長人都守不太住 很懶 禁區卡位不積極 很容易放棄卡好的位置 防人手都不舉的 以為他的人高手長能蓋到對方每個火鍋 因為先天條件太好 以大學籃球的層級 他這種態度倒還吃的開 As a weak-side shot-blocker it’s an entirely different story, though, as indicated by the fact that he led the entire NCAA in this category on both a per-game and per-minute basis, which is extremely impressive considering the stage of development he’s currently at. Whiteside possesses freakish length— his wingspan is reportedly around 7-6—and he has absolutely terrific timing rotating, contesting and rejecting shots. He’s one of the most productive rebounders in college basketball for these same reasons. 火鍋能力威震整個NCAA 因為他有7-6的翼展 又有蓋鍋直覺 並且他的籃板也因為身材太好 所以也很強 One of Whiteside’s biggest problems lies in his extremely poor passing ability. Playing 851 minutes on the season, Whiteside has dished out only 9 assists, a shockingly low number that ranks him amongst the worst in college basketball in that area. Watching him play, it’s clear that once he touches the ball, he sees nothing besides the rim, often forcing up extremely poor shots and having major issues dealing with double teams, which makes him very turnover prone. 傳球能力很弱 本季出賽851分鐘 只傳出9助攻 幾乎是大學長人最差的成績 從比賽中發現只要球到手上 他就只有籃框 有時會出現不好的被迫出手 以及不會處理雙人包夾的問題 因此,也常失誤 Whiteside’s fundamentals, basketball IQ and overall awareness are well below average, even considering his freshman status. He at times looks out of place in Marshall’s half-court offense, looking as if he’s not quite sure where he should be at any particular moment, which at this late stage in the season makes you wonder about his ability to process an NBA team’s far more complex playbook. 籃球IQ 籃球認知 目前全在水平以下 有時他會搞不清楚Marshall的半場進攻在幹嘛 就算球季已經快結束了依然會有這種恍神行為 讓懷疑更複雜的NBA戰術他能吸收多少 Whiteside had a very difficult time qualifying academically for college, only actually getting into school at age 20, and is reportedly having problems staying eligible now that he’s already there, which will likely leave him no choice but to enter this year’s draft. 成績太差 學校可能不想繼續收留他 可能被迫要參加本屆選秀 “Immature” is the word you hear most often associated with Whiteside both on and off the court, as there will certainly be a large degree of hand-holding and coddling that whichever team drafts him needs to do in order to help him reach his full potential. There are major questions about his work ethic and intensity level, which is a bit concerning considering how far off he currently is from being able to contribute to an NBA team. We also need to keep in mind that despite his freshman status, he’s the same age as many college juniors, turning 21 this upcoming June. This obviously limits his upside to a certain degree. "不成熟" 是他在場上場下的名聲 要選他的球隊要耐性且要會養喔 才能開發他的全部潛在能力 對他的工作態度跟身體強度有沒有辦法適應NBA的質疑 沒有停過 但別忘了 他才剛滿21歲 依年齡來說只是個大學生 (譯:好熟悉的話啊 好像哪裡聽過........) Despite the numerous red-flags and his clear-cut project status, Whiteside is an extremely interesting prospect thanks to his rare physical tools and super intriguing skill-level. At a certain point in the draft, the reward of picking him definitely outweighs the risk, as we’re obviously dealing with a special talent. NBA teams will need to do quite a bit of research into his background and psychological makeup, and figure out how much physical potential his frame has in terms of being able to add weight. Whiteside is clearly the type of guy that needs to go to the right organization, as he could easily get lost in the shuffle and find himself out of the NBA if he lands in the wrong place. 除了一些缺點外 他還是個令人很感興趣的選秀目標 因為他的天份太好了 如果選了他 肯定是收成的機率要比風險大的多 就像我們一直強調的選天份優先 NBA球隊們會對他的身家開始作詳細調查 並且評估他有多少潛力可挖 包括還能增重多少肉 他是典型的要有球隊會養不然會變爛掉的NBA潛力股 你心動了嗎 XD == 基本資料: Hassan Whiteside 身高:7-0 年級:Freshman 位置:Center 學校:Marshall 今年成績: 13.6 points, 9.2 rebounds, 0.3 assists, 1.9 turnovers, 5.4 blocks, 52% FG, 60% FT, 3-5 3P 高光: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJFUB98qaM
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kingpredrag:連阿屁都養不好了,還是選Favors比較實在XD 04/14 23:42
eliczone:不會傳球這點 他會在西佛底下被幹得要死 04/14 23:43
eliczone:我比較喜歡表弟 壞男孩 04/14 23:43
kikijuice:我支持選表弟 他的活動力 視野 都是一等一的 04/14 23:46
Knicks:Durant才21歲,以年齡來說還是個大學生,咦...已經是得分王 04/14 23:49
Knicks:外加MVP候選人,今年率領球隊打進季後賽 04/14 23:50
JerrydBatum:整季九助攻 為什麼平均有三助攻? 04/14 23:57
RonArtest93:應該是0.3 網頁打錯 04/15 00:00
※ 編輯: RonArtest93 來自: 59.121.42.136 (04/15 00:01)
RonArtest93:他最誘人的就是天份 好到很誇張 04/15 00:05
RonArtest93:我覺得他的天份最後會讓他進入TOP 5 04/15 00:06
RonArtest93:(除非突然爆出什大問題 ) 04/15 00:06
RonArtest93:我個人是非常喜歡他 當然也是因為天賦 04/15 00:07
RonArtest93:好的長人少 七呎好的長人更少 年輕又充滿潛力的七呎 04/15 00:10
RonArtest93:那是少之又少 , 白邊我覺得如果他能增重 整個就像 04/15 00:11
RonArtest93:Andre Bynum 的體能加強板 , 這已經是接近franchise 04/15 00:12
RonArtest93:等級的天份了 (如同去年的TE的天份之於PG ) 04/15 00:13
RonArtest93:類似我們去年討論會不會傳球的TE要不要選一樣 04/15 00:14
RonArtest93:(rubio,建寧那時都看起來比TE保險的多) 04/15 00:15
kingpredrag:我對他有點懷疑,因為他是在戰力偏落的聯盟,所以數據 04/15 00:15
RonArtest93:白邊之於今年其他成熟樂透長人會是另外一個有趣的議題 04/15 00:16
kingpredrag:難免有灌水的疑慮。 04/15 00:16
sokghiko:這種態度不好、戰術吸收慢、靠身材的人最容易爛掉 04/15 00:18
kingpredrag:Favors和表弟都身在比較強的聯盟,隊上也有其他球星分 04/15 00:18
kingpredrag:食表現,但他們的數據都不會輸白邊,所以我還是以這兩 04/15 00:19
kingpredrag:位球員為優先考量。 04/15 00:19
sokghiko:大學很威但後來爛掉的人在NBA可多著的呢 04/15 00:19
eliczone:在較強聯盟和較強隊伍感覺上還是比較可靠 因為身經百戰 04/15 00:20
RonArtest93:恩 主要還是要看測試 數據的話每個人都很強我都自動 04/15 00:20
GodEyes:KM、JT也是次級聯盟選出來的,如果總管覺得想要這不會是 04/15 00:20
RonArtest93:跳過 XD 04/15 00:21
GodEyes:問題,說回來我還蠻喜歡他的,只是我對我們養長人的能力沒 04/15 00:22
GodEyes:信心 04/15 00:22
kingpredrag:KM和JT的例子要考量到我們的籤位都在中後段,所以會有 04/15 00:23
RonArtest93:Favors和表弟就是那種選了會很保險的球員 04/15 00:24
sokghiko:我覺的派崔後比較偏向選即戰力,那應該只剩Favors、表弟 04/15 00:24
kingpredrag:不同考量。 04/15 00:24
RonArtest93:大概知道他們能提供即戰力 但是也會知道他們的限度 04/15 00:25
sokghiko:和CA 不知Udoh如何。他的隊有進16強 04/15 00:25
RonArtest93:到哪 白邊是大概要養1~2年 (但絶對比HAWES好養) 04/15 00:26
eliczone:明年就要能夠有很大的進步 我想真的沒辦法等這麼久 04/15 00:26
RonArtest93:但養出來你的禁區會有犯規等級的球員 04/15 00:26
eliczone:除非明年能弄到另外一個柱子 不然真的需要即戰力 04/15 00:27
kingpredrag:Udoh也是樂透區的人選阿,白邊有沒有hawes好養我就不 04/15 00:27
sokghiko:Monroe低位還蠻會磨的,但他體能不太好。 04/15 00:27
RonArtest93:呵 那就放給別隊去養吧 只是覺得錯過很可惜 04/15 00:27
kingpredrag:確定了,因為白邊一直讓我想到灰狼的Hollins 04/15 00:27
michaelch:Hawes表示:聽起來跟我差不多 04/15 00:29
sokghiko:還是要司機第二Motiejunas。Vesely的體能和外線也蠻可口 04/15 00:30
RonArtest93:我喜歡Vesely 大於 04/15 00:30
RonArtest93:Motiejunas 04/15 00:30
RonArtest93:目前啦 一方面是Motiejunas影片真的太少 04/15 00:31
RonArtest93:二方面是Vesely的體能真的以白人來說到頂級了 04/15 00:31
RonArtest93:但是他們兩個我不太想賭 原因只有一個 04/15 00:33
RonArtest93:近年來號稱司機傳人的 還沒有一個比司機強 XDD 04/15 00:34
eliczone:號稱傳人的 哪個比本尊還威的.... 04/15 00:36
eliczone:我還是相信Petrie會給我們一個最好的選擇 而且今年還有加 04/15 00:37
eliczone:上Bobby和西佛一起看 04/15 00:37
GodEyes:Motiejunas ESPN版本的掉出十名外很久了 04/15 00:41
skcwebb:相信Petrie吧 看看reke! 04/15 00:45
RonArtest93:可以這樣分 04/15 00:46
RonArtest93:即戰力: favors,表弟 04/15 00:46
RonArtest93:歐洲派:Vesely,Motiejunas 04/15 00:46
RonArtest93:潛力派:白邊,UDON,ED DAVIS 04/15 00:47
RonArtest93: H 04/15 00:47
RonArtest93:即戰力但已成熟:Monore ,Aldrich 04/15 00:48
kingpredrag:其實這樣分有點問題耶,因為Udon和ED的潛力明顯不如 04/15 00:49
RonArtest93:當然細部還是有許多不同 但爲了好記我自己這樣分 XD 04/15 00:49
kingpredrag:favors,表弟,他們倆也還不算即戰力吧,應該是這次選 04/15 00:50
kingpredrag:潛力最好的長人 04/15 00:50
kingpredrag:喔喔,了解 04/15 00:51
RonArtest93:恩 或者說favors,表弟是公認的高順位中選者會比較好 04/15 00:51
RonArtest93:Udon我覺得潛力不輸喔 ,看過一些他的比賽影片 04/15 00:52
jh7735:看到防守那邊 說真的我就沒興趣了 防守一字謂之心阿 04/15 00:53
sokghiko:乾脆禁區用簽的吧。禁區即戰力影響力比較大。就跟當初簽 04/15 00:53
RonArtest93:天份,觀念都很好.....會是一大黑馬 04/15 00:53
eliczone:這麼多隻 我們卻只能選一隻..... 04/15 00:54
sokghiko:假摔豬肉一樣 04/15 00:54
eliczone:我想要一次選三隻啦!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04/15 00:54
eliczone:Petrie 你給我認真點 再換二個第一輪回來 04/15 00:55
kikijuice:不用太多隻啦 把Noc換個好點的回來就好了 04/15 00:55
kingpredrag:三個和尚沒水喝啦,希望能選到真命天子就好 04/15 00:56
RonArtest93:最好的 一隻就夠了 04/15 00:58
RonArtest93:XD 04/15 00:58
eliczone:一個選Favors 一個表弟 一個Turner 一次補齊 五門齊!!!!! 04/15 00:59
eliczone:這樣我們1到5號都很威 替補也很威 太可口的陣容了 04/15 01:00
kingpredrag:板大FB可以這樣玩,賭賭看XD 04/15 01:01
eliczone:哈哈哈 04/15 01:01
RonArtest93:板大瘋了 @@ 04/15 01:04
sokghiko:該不會最後選那幾個搖擺人吧= = 如果抽到狀元籤要留誰. 04/15 01:08
kikijuice:不會啦 只要我們有前三順位 基本上除了Wall和Turner 04/15 01:11
kikijuice:絕對會選長人 04/15 01:11
sokghiko:如果抽到狀元籤就有趣了 04/15 01:12
felmizan:看到籃球IQ和籃球認知在水準以下有點擔心 04/15 01:14
KillLakers:態度和實力+潛力不能兼得嗎.............. 04/15 01:19
buzzmumu:火鍋好銷魂 04/15 01:19
kikijuice:我也很好奇 Petrie如果真的選到John Wall 他自由市場 04/15 01:34
kikijuice:會選哪些人進來搭配他 Wall跟TE要怎麼搭配 04/15 01:35
kikijuice:TE對我們來說已經是Savior了 但若真拿到狀元籤 04/15 01:35
kikijuice:Petrie有不把Wall留下來的勇氣嗎? 04/15 01:36
hihi29:搶到狀元籤當然是向下搶劫啊 04/15 02:27
mtmmy:以我們養長人的功力 應該會爛掉 04/15 03:14
IWF:WALL跟TE,那票房一定滿檔了.... 04/15 08:59
squall9510:可能是翼展的關係感覺是比Hawes好養 旦感覺眼中只有得 04/15 10:26
squall9510:分跟火鍋 天份滿點 旦還是希望表弟或Favors 好難抉擇 04/15 10:28
squall9510:喔 讓派崔跟Bobby去傷腦筋 04/15 10:29
IWF:小號塔比特嗎?看到這邊,我是怕了 04/15 10:54
winnabe:說真的...看到不用心 說會打多好感覺都騙人的QQ 04/15 11:31
GSkin:感覺不是總管的菜 大概選他的機會不大 04/15 14:18