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有兩個在我寫"Chapman University"之後寄信問有關於MBA及why我選Chapman... 乾脆就一起發表看大家的感想如何 Of course, GMAT, GPA, Essay, 工作經驗都可以從留學版找, but我想發表如何找一間是和你的學校: 這篇文章有點針對已在美學生申請MBA.... So, 我覺得第一件事是去學校走走, 看看它們的環境, 學生及教授的interactions, and 工作人員得態度 真的, MBA 在Southern CA除了UCLA and USC, 其他學校在其他地方都不太"出名"尤 其東部. 對他們來說 UCI MBA and UC Riverside 都差不多, 除非真得有心去看排名. 所以重點是你要什麼, 有太多亞洲人擠破頭進TOP 25 MBA programs 但到了Class participation和Networking時都變成啞巴....個人感覺真的 事太浪費那些好學校的資源了! 像我現在教授就有說過一句話: "MBA學生應該多花點 時間在Networking上, 而不是整天想如何拿A. 當大部分MBA的人都至少有B以上的程度, Networking是取決妳到底有沒有工作的關建" 再來是Top 25 and 小學校的好處及壞處: Top 25 的教授and學生都是一流, 所以素質高, offer課程也多, alumni的force也很強 但同時競爭壓力也相當大...非常難讓別人信服你and讓你自己standup for rest of group. 加上如果你neworking能力又沒比別人強, 準備畢業後打包回台吧... 我有一個朋友在UCLA part-time MBA, 他被整個team 排擠因為他工作年齡低(也7年ㄝ!) 別人不服氣他當team leader, 整個team到他自己願意讓位之後才willing跟他交談 小學校ㄋ... 像Chapman, Pepperdine, Loyola Marymount的教授資格其實都相當不錯 但學生overall素質較低, offer課程也沒像UCLA多. 但好處是同學之間願意做study group的意願較高讓大家都越來越好 小學校優點也是能讓你的聲音容易聽見...一些多花的時間and經力能讓自己可能成為 club的社長even MBAA President. 都對你未來就業有幫助 So..."重點是你要什麼" -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 75.3.248.13
werly:多謝指點 10/21 11:09
clarkchang:感謝分享,但看的有點累。Networking很重要,但是你把 10/21 11:26
clarkchang:Top25跟其他列出來學校相比,networkin就沒那麼重要了 10/21 11:27
clarkchang:因為差距實在太大。除非你有身份,不然再怎麼交際應酬 10/21 11:27
clarkchang:正常公司$70k以上的理想工作還是很遙遠 10/21 11:28
msupkg1211:I dont agree w/ ur pt. Like my school has an 10/21 11:29
msupkg1211:Indian alumni is willing to sponsor working Visa 10/21 11:30
msupkg1211:even you work for others, if you do not network 10/21 11:30
msupkg1211:you wouldn't know that Indian. If you don't 10/21 11:31
msupkg1211:in top 25, it is hard to get into big companies 10/21 11:31
msupkg1211:like Citi... remember, 80% of US people got their 10/21 11:32
msupkg1211:job because they know "someone". And that someone 10/21 11:32
msupkg1211:is from networking. Plus I am writing this as in 10/21 11:33
msupkg1211:West Coast schools... top 25 are USC, UCLA,Stanford 10/21 11:33
msupkg1211:...and those fews... 10/21 11:34
TripleC:我想直接拿貴校就業狀況出來看應該比較客觀 10/21 11:35
msupkg1211:Well, Chapman has not ranked high on job placement 10/21 11:37
msupkg1211:the school score A and A- on faculty, and quality 10/21 11:38
msupkg1211:but only C+ on career placement(business week) 10/21 11:39
msupkg1211:Anyhow, my pt is that for many TW intl students 10/21 11:40
msupkg1211:getting into top25 and do well is not a easy job 10/21 11:40
msupkg1211:but be able to claim a job is even harder, so boost 10/21 11:41
msupkg1211:your social skills are important while still at 10/21 11:41
msupkg1211:school. 10/21 11:41
clarkchang:大部分台灣留學生不像您有身份,如果沒有Top20,還是 10/22 00:47
clarkchang:留在台灣比較強。不值得花四百萬到美國networking 10/22 00:47
clarkchang:另外那位印度校友提供H1很好,但薪水呢?$70k以上嗎? 10/22 00:48
msupkg1211:wow, you are all about 70K, arent you? Regarless 10/22 09:52
msupkg1211:the guy only sponsor your visa status but not give 10/22 09:52
msupkg1211:you a job. Why? because others will if you do not 10/22 09:52
msupkg1211:require company to sponsor you. MBA is all about 10/22 09:53
msupkg1211:networking... ask any Havard, UCLA, and any MBA 10/22 09:53
msupkg1211:school. With your point, you should stay in TW or 10/22 09:54
clarkchang:沒有$70k以上的薪水,就無法讓你四百萬台幣的投資回本 10/22 09:54
msupkg1211:go to MBA school in Asia. 10/22 09:54
clarkchang:我當然知道Networking很重要,我是Kellogg校友,我只是 10/22 09:55
clarkchang:強調非Top20,又沒身份,你即使認識全校6000個人,對你 10/22 09:55
clarkchang:找工作也比不上Top20來的有用。而且沒錯,沒有身份,沒 10/22 09:56
clarkchang:有Top20,就該留在台灣或亞洲,美國MBA不適合你,成功 10/22 09:57
clarkchang:不會只有留美MBA這一條路 10/22 09:57
clarkchang:而且$70k已經是退一萬步了,top20都是$100k起跳 10/22 09:58
msupkg1211:Did you read the recent report? Many Havard MBA 10/22 10:06
msupkg1211:grad only has 20K a year. You dont measure a person 10/22 10:07
msupkg1211:on how much you make, its what you do. Once you 10/22 10:07
msupkg1211:not rich 10/22 10:07
clarkchang:這裡是LA版,我不想跟你講太多,有興趣的話轉到留學版 10/22 10:17
clarkchang:我們再繼續。另外$20k?只不過是sing-on bonus而已 10/22 10:18
aaronmin:你還是講中文吧... 另外many HBS 20K?! 無可能... 10/23 01:07