[外電] CP3 for MVP？

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作者: chieher (阿路加：我要去美國) 看板: NBA
標題: [外絮] CP3 for MVP？
時間: Tue May  8 17:49:16 2012

NBA MVP Race 2012: Chris Paul Deserves Basketball's Most Prestigious Award
http://tinyurl.com/7rh97cn

The race to be named the MVP of the 2011-12 NBA season has long been discussed
as a two-man tilt between LeBron James and Kevin Durant, but what about Chris
Paul?
2011-12的NBA MVP話題總是繞著兩個人轉：LBJ vs KD
那小保羅呢？

You know, the guy who singlehandedly transformed the Los Angeles Clippers from
the laughing stock of the league into a team that nearly nabbed home-court
advantage in the first round of the playoffs?
把快艇隊從大家的笑柄，拯救為季後賽雄獅的「那個人」

CP3 4 MVP

Yeah, that Chris Paul. His presence has been the one significant difference
between this season and last, between a team that lost 61 percent of its games
and missed the playoffs and a team that won nearly 61 percent of its games and
reached the postseason for the eighth time in franchise history, and only the
fifth time since moving to LA.
小保羅的出現讓快艇有了巨大的變化
去年季賽快艇輸了61%的比賽，而今年他們贏了61%，並闖進了季後賽

Mind you, CP3 helped to engineer such a massive turnaround during a
lockout-shortened season, with all of two weeks to get acclimated to his new
surroundings in training camp before the 66-game schedule began in earnest.
Chauncey Billups, his most accomplished teammate and a fellow newbie to the
team, went down with a ruptured Achilles' tendon in early February, leaving Mo
Williams and Caron Butler (fresh off an ACL tear) as the next-most senior
members of the squad as far as postseason experience is concerned.
Mr. Big Shot在二月初就因傷倒下了

Meanwhile, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan, the two young cornerstones of the
franchise, actually showed some signs of regression. Griffin, in particular,
took statistical steps back across the board, most notably at the free throw,
though he still checked in as the league's seventh-most efficient player (23.4
PER, according to Basketball Reference).
Griffin 和 Jordan 事實上出現了一些下滑的徵兆，特別是 Griffin
Griffin 今年的罰球只有 52.1% (去年是64.2%)

Griffin's incompetence in crunch time left Paul to carry the load. According to
82games.com, CP3 averaged 40.6 points, 6.0 rebounds and 8.8 assists per 48
minutes of clutch time, which is defined as "4th quarter or overtime, less than
five minutes left, neither team ahead by more than five points."
Griffin 在關鍵時刻起不了作用，小保羅就只能擔起責任了
在clutch time, 小保羅的PER 48：40.6分 6.0籃板 8.8助攻
(clutch time的定義：在第四節或OT, 終了時間低於5分鐘, 任一隊領先不超過5分)

But frankly, trying to make CP3's case from a purely statistical standpoint is
a losing battle. Paul certainly has nothing to be ashamed of, not after
averaging 19.8 points, 9.1 assists, 3.6 rebounds and a league-best 2.5 steals
while ranking second in player efficiency rating, second in win shares, second
in offensive rating and first in offensive win shares.

All while finishing well outside the top 20 in the NBA in usage percentage.

In other words, Paul did more with less than most.

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What About 'Bron?
LBJ 咧？

Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images
LeBron, on the other hand, had a statistical season for the ages. The Miami
Heat superstar strung together per-game averages of 27.1 rebounds, 7.9
rebounds, 6.2 assists and 1.9 steals on a career-high 53.1 percent shooting
from the field. As far as advanced metrics are concerned, James finished first
in PER, seventh in offensive and defensive rating, second in offensive and
defensive win shares and first in overall win shares, all while registering the
league's third-highest usage rate.

So, from a purely statistical standpoint, LeBron was the best player in the
league.
LBJ的數據是毫無疑問的領先，如果由數據來看，LBJ是最好的球員

But "best" and "most valuable" aren't necessarily one in the same. The Heat
were the No. 2 seed in the East last season, and are the No. 2 seed once again
this time around, though their win percentage dipped (however marginally) from
.707 to .697.
但是 最好的球員 ≠ 最有價值球員

Surely, LeBron's efforts were highly valuable, especially given Dwyane Wade's
recurrent injury problems, Chris Bosh's inability to do much of anything in the
paint and the rest of the roster's general impotence.

Still, in the grand scheme of things, James' play didn't do quite as much to
move the needle as did CP3's. LeBron had another great year, yet the Heatles
couldn't quite sneak past the often-Derrick-Rose-less Chicago Bulls to snag the
top seed in the East. Also, there's no discounting that Wade—when healthy—
played a huge part in keeping Miami at or near the top of the heap, a fact to
which his PER of 26.3 (third-best in the NBA) is a clear testament.
LBJ 今年還是很打得很棒，但熱火還是沒有幹掉公牛，成為第一種子
更別提LBJ 身邊還有一個 Wade - PER排名第三的球員

Making the jump from second to first may be tougher than going from 13th to
fifth, as the Clippers did with Paul, but the sheer size of the gap closed has
to speak to CP3's superiority, however slight, with regard to MVP candidacy.
要從第2升到第1，也許比從第13升到第5還難(CP3的快艇)
但這排名上的變動，也事關誰更有資格拿MVP

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Love for the Durantula
那KD 咧？

Ronald Martinez/Getty Images
What about Kevin Durant, then?


title by pouring in 28 points per game, with career-highs in field goal
percentage (.496), rebounds (eight per game), assists (3.5 per game) and blocks
(1.2 per game). Along the way, the Durantula registered the fourth-best PER,
the 20th-best defensive rating, the third-most offensive win share, the
ninth-most defensive win shares and the third-most win shares overall with the
fifth-highest usage rate.
KD 今年PER排名第4

As far as teammates are concerned, Durant had the privilege of playing with one
guy (Russell Westbrook) who's one of the top-10 guys in the league, another
(James Harden) who's arguably in the top-20 and a third (Serge Ibaka) who's one
of the most impactful defenders in basketball. In total, OKC's win percentage
jumped from .671 to .721, landing them second in the West behind the San
Antonio Spurs.
但只要隊友是考慮因素之一，KD 隊友的優勢就很明顯
他身邊有一個聯盟前10的隊友(西河)、還有Harden和Ibaka

From a numbers standpoint then, Durant falls somewhere near CP3, though Kevin's
team that, unlike Chris', reached the playoffs in each of previous two seasons,
making it all the way to the conference finals last year.

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Ultimately, Paul's case for the MVP can best be made like that of your typical
Coach of the Year (not including the job Gregg Popovich did with the Spurs this
year). Like a coach on an up-and-coming team, CP3 came into a brand-new
situation, with a team that hadn't so much as sniffed the postseason the year
before, and constituted a significant portion of the difference between last
season's mediocrity and this season's meteoric rise.
如果 MVP 的產生跟 COY 類似，是看這個人對球隊帶來多大幫助，那CP3就很有機會了。

It's not often that a player wins the MVP in his first season with a new team,
but with the way the Clippers have improved with Chris Paul in the backcourt,

Who should be the MVP?

所以，MVP 該頒給誰？

1. Chris Paul  
2. LeBron James
3. Kevin Durant


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推 brokenback3 :應該是LBJ或KD
推 KevinLoveYou:ㄏㄏ
推 qscxz       :KD for 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
推 shyshy      :4.Bobe Bryant
推 nagisanoff  :給LBJ啦
推 Yukirin     :LBJ啊
→ nagisanoff  :有魔咒
推 howsiao     :非常同意這篇.  可惜投票的人最終還是會亂投
推 afdm1234    :CP3本季還差得遠
推 brokenback3 :LBJ拿的話 可能會破魔咒
推 wincecarter :KD for 3!!!!!!!!!!
推 yankees21   :CP3早該給他一座MVP了 太威了
噓 RichWomen   : 當然是林書豪  他兩次登上運動畫刊封面耶
推 jkiop79315  :數據就最顯眼阿 畢竟很多隱藏價值很難表現出來
→ lonelycoffee:cp3不是和書豪一個等級的嗎>////<
推 kinanson    :快艇如果握cp3換成lbj的話，我想快艇會更強
推 rich780501  :還不是08年摳比搶了CP3的 不然CP3早有MVP了
→ blockline   :影帝不是會幫助隊友~怎麼跟萎德同時上場好像?
推 kullan      :08年的MVP真的應該給CP3 而不是Lao-da
→ kinanson    :那熱火把lbj換成cp3會更強嗎?這可就不一定了
→ rich780501  :不過要是我選我會給LBJ
推 fegat       :季後賽不算阿 明年請早
→ DM1984      :CP3缺一個MVP 但LBJ數據太可怕
→ kullan      :我確定把Chalmers換成CP3會更強
推 louis123321 :08年黃蜂戰績超越湖人就會是Cp3的了 可惜沒做到
推 KevinLoveYou:Kobe黑走cp3的mvp
→ cslf20      :CP3
→ louis123321 :所以頒給湖人的領袖 同時也沒有拿過MVP的kobe
推 kasumi28    :111111111111111111111111111111111
推 rufus7      :08年例行賽尾聲黃蜂對湖人 黃蜂自己沒拿下來 怪誰
→ wincecarter :也沒黑走吧 就戰績論啊 那年湖人強過黃蜂啊
推 steven610381:KOBE又開始救援了  整篇沒kobe也能救援
推 phoenician  :當然是KD阿 跟西河同隊數據還能這麼威
推 ice80712    :08年給KB有什麼不對的 比戰績湖人>黃蜂阿
→ louis123321 :08年給kobe對於那些專家來說沒什麼不對 但對於ptt
→ louis123321 :專業的酸民來說 簡直大錯大錯...
推 cjxx        :如果用隱藏數據的話 TP應該也要列入阿
推 bamboo313   :Kobe搶走CP3...?照你這樣說 去年我也可以說ROSE
推 rufus7      :08年 CP3就是輸在戰績比人差 沒啥好爭的了
→ bamboo313   :搶走林書豪的MVP阿
推 Headquarter :27.1 points吧？
推 KevinLoveYou:專家只是訓練有素的kobe
→ cmid05      :CP3本季感覺有段時間還在調適(打得比較客氣)
推 shyshy      :老大那年拿MVP實至名歸阿  等級和ROSE不相上下
噓 ericcharng  :看到CP3只能虛了 等級也差太多 要捧也不是這樣
→ howsiao     :保羅季賽只是保留實力而已
推 KevinLoveYou:樓上迷迷
推 MINAMIKE    :總板的"那個人"只有一個
→ xxyyzz4901  :MVP魔咒
推 musichour   :這篇文章偏頗的要命  LBJ數據超好對球隊也有幫助就酸
→ howsiao     :最近大家都看到季後賽和關鍵時刻的保羅了吧
→ honeydog7772:沒道理不頒個MVP給他
噓 PureTrue    :kobe那座應該給cp3的
→ musichour   :戰績輸公牛 這不是典型的酸文嗎避開優點硬挑缺點
→ ssskav      :cp3這季應該比較想要fmvp吧?XD
→ musichour   :08年給CP3完全沒話說 今年輸LBJ太多了吧
→ Ommmmm      :不可能    Kobe那座也是應得的 不要再說CP3了
推 stocktonty  :如果加上這次第一輪的成績 CP3也許有資格拿 XD
推 Bifrost     :當年湖人季末例行賽打贏黃蜂 也是頒給kobe MVP的原因
→ Bifrost     :之一
→ shwkz       :MVP大部份都給東西區12名 快艇的排名也想搶MVP? 哈
噓 ARODisGod   :沒提到LaoDa 失敗
推 LBJ23       :Cluth time for 48 mins這種算法  算出的數據太自慰
→ LBJ23       :了
推 shyshy      :只好推樓上  數據有48的都蠻蝦的...
推 mikekyoa    :08年那座MVP幾乎可以說是看湖人黃蜂那一場KB不但贏了
推 superjohnny :CP3當年是數據太鬼神了吧..而他的影響力確實值得
推 trylin      :Kobe Bryant
推 nagisanoff  :CP3今年拿FMVP我請前10推吃雞排+珍奶
→ mikekyoa    :比賽，數據也比下CP3。黑走這種說法很無知
→ nagisanoff  :當然不包括我
推 langeo      :當年原本就是CP3該拿MVP...
噓 hirdaramani :那年沒拿到還不黑嗎
→ jamesyu545  :YA
推 reversy     :你說你樓下喔
→ chieher     :原作者不能推 sad QQ
推 acess23     :快艇濫報了
推 bfetter     :
推 yobi        :CP3最接近MVP的那年被A走了
推 superjohnny :推這篇嗎 科科 等機排了
推 krajicek    :CP3今年第一隊有機會吧，Rose大概沒辦法（缺賽太多）
→ howsiao     :保羅今年沒第一隊的話, 聯盟可以去吃屎了
推 seabox      :難講 TP也有可能第一隊
→ seabox      :不過考量人氣+實力應該是CP3是第一隊
推 tliu223     :這種評判標準才助長了MVP得主拿不到總冠軍之風啊w
推 EndlessYearn:不可能 1.球隊不是分區冠軍 2.也不是分組冠軍
推 afdm1234    :今天也沒有特別比往年強~~沒進第一隊也正常
→ afdm1234    :今年
推 leo255112   :快艇不太可能打到總冠軍賽...
推 jetrider    :寫得不錯，但MVP還是LBJ的~
推 shangyen    :CP3之前那座MVP被強姦犯黑走了  就知道有亂投
→ dogville    :數據和戰績都輸 憑什麼拿? 要論影響力 多的人有資格
推 stocktonty  :比起08  我還比較想翻案2010 FINAL MVP
噓 Rizzi       :想太多,聯盟只想要明星拿MVP,不然Kidd和CP3早拿到了
推 jetrider    :CP3是明星啊，Kidd和CP3星度不能比吧?
噓 ericcharng  :講的好像那年黃蜂拿冠軍一樣 什麼叫助長拿不到冠軍風
推 gn02335338  :Kidd以前也拿過MVP第二名 為什麼不能比
推 louis123321 :Kidd在籃網時的星度...哪裡不是明星...?
推 jetrider    :我不是說實力，是說聯盟觀點的明星光輝
推 ice80712    :同時期跟Kidd競爭的對手太強 大歐 TD AI
推 kerkersoul  :狗鼻MVP那年 湖人要是有球員是MVP最該得的是嘎獸
→ louis123321 :他那時候我覺得很紅阿
→ jetrider    :好吧我覺得我的話有點引戰的感覺，不要理我XD
推 Rizzi       :Kidd和CP3星度當然夠,但比上當年的TD和KB就是較黯淡
→ allenJr     :這種觀點的話，魔獸也可以排很前呀，魔術整個崩潰耶
→ AriesC      :馬後炮
→ allenJr     :再說MVP是給例行賽的，給LBJ或是KD才比較正常吧
推 manyun      :這篇是在害cp3嗎= = 怎麼看都lbj的數據比較好
→ capirex     :老大要拿FMVP好嘛~~~~
推 kerkersoul  :狗鼻都可以A別人MVP了 CP3就不能拿回來嗎??
推 ThreeNG     :Kobe拿MVP那年Gasol轉隊到湖人後才打了27場
→ ThreeNG     :史上還沒有球員光打27場就拿MVP的
→ kerkersoul  :LBJ有需要那麼多MVP?? 我只承認他是上半季MVP
推 kerkersoul  :有阿~只是那季不是給嘎獸而已
推 zed9104     :LBJ會拿MVP 雖然CP3在快艇影響力比LBJ在熱火大
推 Proakis     :快艇是CP3得球隊還是BG的球隊阿?
→ Proakis     :BG=Jeter CP3=A-Rod?
推 ecbytesan   :jordan= 波沙達
推 ahwan       :看成MWP @@"
→ zzzaaaqqq111:MO=Rivera
推 moon963     :只是LBJ今年季賽數據太強大了  大概還是LBJ拿吧
推 djcc        :       當然還是喇叭阿  喇叭去快艇也做得到
噓 linkelvin   :黑艇還想出個ｍｖｐ？   第２輪就掰了
噓 imhere      :沒資格吧
噓 HeavenIs    :講得好像西區第一種子還是總冠軍一樣
推 l04         :其實扣掉cp 快艇陣容也是內外兼備 況且季末戰績下滑
噓 woo123woo   :一堆詹迷在自嗨.... MVP絕對是KD
推 qoop3       :會是KD無誤
推 woo123woo   :當KD奪回得分王時 更加確定MVP是KD(沒拿MVP也是KD)
推 phelyl      :「提升隊友」的講法太抽象了 PER還比較有參考價值
→ god2        :LBJ
推 katanakiller:08年老大就贏在戰績和少座MVP造神CP3還年輕...
推 gordon27    :籃球真的有不少無法用數據呈現的東西
噓 ice80712    :笑死人了  某人自以為比espn網站還專業
推 bennybennyb :當然是書豪葛格阿 帶尼克進季後賽耶
噓 CourtneyLee :噓摳鼻黑走CP3一座MVP
→ zealeliot   :CP3真的強 不過第二輪應該還是過不了馬刺
推 ko232       :自以為專業的迷迷們~08年給科神也有意見~主觀意識
噓 gn03620685  :裁判才是真正MVP
→ pounil      :CP3 關鍵時刻之神
推 wadecp3     :08年KOBE真的要感謝湖人GM和嘎獸
→ skcwebb     :為什麼會有人認為Kidd和CP3不能比？鄉民都太年輕了？
推 magicchen   :去叫KOBE把08年MVP還給CP3阿
噓 jameskoko   :光是LBJ有WADE這隊友數據還這樣真不知道有啥好選
噓 heacoun     :CP3下輩子吧
噓 ko232       :CP3在NBA有創下什麼震驚世人的嗎??跟KOBE比~呵呵
推 blueteddy   :以CP3領導球隊與壓力下的沉穩度 絕對有資格是MVP!!
推 blueteddy   :哈哈 林書豪差遠了 跟CP根本不同等級
→ piercingX   :下輩子吧 是有多強?
→ piercingX   :上一次有PG拿到MVP是誰呀?這十年二十年有誰?
→ chieher     :                        ↑去年的Rose阿...........
推 minamix     :LBJ+1
噓 wacidila    :純噓酸民跳針
推 GianniC     :看看LBJ防守的位置  可以1號守到5號  CP3就輸死了
→ GianniC     :把防守的價值跟彈性放上去  CP3完全就不用說了...
推 blueteddy   :光看到heat有LBJ+DW+CB 還贏不了公牛　就哭哭了
→ blueteddy   :籃球是teamwork 不是個人秀　誰能以個人力量讓整個
→ blueteddy   :團隊發揮最大效益　才是真正的 M V P!
推 transformer8:誰在跟妳比防守價值阿 沒辦法一個人打五個位置該死喔
推 aska1219    :竟然有人說kidd的星度跟CP3不能比? 國中生嗎?
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推 itsfated:LBJ