精華區beta LoL 關於我們 聯絡資訊
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2692224 Another patch is about ready to hit the Public Beta Environment, so it’s time to take an in-depth look at a few of the potential updates slated to hit the Fields of Justice. We won’t cover everything, and some of this is likely to change based on your feedback, but here’s what you can expect when you log into the PBE. League of Rengar After his initial release, we made a series of improvements to help Rengar live up to his reputation as the ultimate predator. They worked – so well, in fact, that even after one round of nerfs Rengar’s still wreaking havoc all over the Fields of Justice. To dial back some of the extra kick that we gave the Pridestalker, we’ve got a series of upcoming changes. Step one was taking the bonus from a Ferocity-charged Savagery attack down to a more reasonable level. We’re also reducing his base Health Regen to make him less sustainable in lane. Because his base survivability was so high, Rengar players were able to dump a disproportionate amount of their Ferocity into raw damage potential. This made him an incredibly frustrating lane bully. With his Health Regen at a more reasonable level, Rengar will now have to balance his Ferocity between sustaining with Battle Roar and raw ganking potential. In addition to his laning presence, Rengar was able to abuse his ultimate to escape from sticky situations a little too easily. Since we wanted this ability to be about hunting people down and killing them, rather than split pushing and vanishing into the woods, we decided to reduce total stealth duration on Thrill of the Hunt and increase the cooldown. This should give the decision to go on the hunt a bit more gravitas. 奶油獅nerf 五星Q額外傷害↓ 基礎回血↓,降低賴線能力,駕駛員要開始取捨五星拿來傷害或回血(AP獅呢!!!) 大絕用意是追殺用,而非分推逃跑用,因此隱形時間↓,CD↑ Evelynn Makes Widows Since the remake, the Widowmaker has really been living up to her name, and Agony’s Embrace has been causing tragic moments for champions all across the Fields of Justice. In an effort to mitigate the number of traumatized players Eve’s been leaving in her wake, we’re going to be dialing back the Ability Power ratio on her ultimate quite a bit. This should help to prevent her from snowballing out of control as the game goes on and she racks up AP. Evelynn’s ultimate was intended to work as a great initiation tool, slowing enemies and giving Evelynn the shield she needed to stay up through a team fight. In conjunction with a Deathfire Grasp, however, it can brutally spike down an enemy before they can react. 因為eve殘害太多人幼小心靈,所以...nerf! 大絕AP係數↓ 大絕目標是拿來開戰、緩速、上盾,但跟DFG搭配太誇張 Deathfire Grasp While we’re on the subject, Deathfire Grasp is a particularly challenging item to balance because adding an additional nuke to an already bursty mage (like Evelynn) can be a rather scary proposition. Because the stats it offers are already so desirable, there’s almost no downside to folding the active ability on DFG in with your standard spell combo and simply blowing people up. Because of the power the active brings to the table, we’ll be scaling back stat bonuses attached to DFG. We’re also scaling back the base damage on the active effect, but increasing the AP ratio to move it more toward the intended function of dealing with big, beefy tanks later in the game when you ’ve had time to build up a bunch of Ability Power. 冥火跟nuke角搭配太可怕(eve你看看你) 既然有主動效果,那就把額外屬性↓ 主動效果基礎傷害↓,AP係數↑ 目的是後期有AP後,拿來殺坦用 Syndra Rising Syndra is getting a ton of quality of life improvements in the upcoming patch that should make her a lot easier to use effectively. While her overall utility placed her in a pretty strong position, getting the most out of the Dark Sovereign could be prohibitively tricky. In the new patch, her abilities should function much more intuitively. We also fixed a couple of nasty bugs that could prevent Force of Will, Scatter the Weak, or even Unleashed Power from functioning as intended, which could really hurt your game if you were relying on one them to keep an enemy at bay, set up a combo, or burst somebody down. 五球女buff 技能更流暢,bug修掉 Jayce Gets Hammered Jayce is proving a bit more formidable than we’d intended. The combination of Acceleration Gate and Shock Blast provides him with too much low cost poke, particularly for how difficult it can be to dodge the combo. To make Jayce players choose their shots a bit more carefully, we’re increasing the Mana cost on Acceleration Gate to make him a bit less frustrating to fight against. We also removed the flat base damage from Thundering Blow to make early exchanges with the Defender of Tomorrow a bit less heavy hitting. We’d always intended for this skill to be a disengage tool, and having it function as his hardest hitting nuke made it a bit too powerful. Even with just the percentage damage and Attack Damage ratio to carry it, it still hits pretty hard, but should make the idea of exchanging combos with Jayce a little less of an intimidating proposition. 阿部高和nerf poke太兇太便宜,所以加速閘魔耗↑ 槌子擊飛移除基礎傷害,因為這是拿來脫離戰鬥用的,但現在被拿來當nuke人用的 保留血量百分比傷害及額外傷害還是很痛,但至少有換血空間 Robot Dancing Sona and Blitzcrank are two supports who both bring a lot to the table, but both are actually too durable for the functions their currently serve. To make sure they pay the price for mistakes they might make in lane, we’ll be dialing back the base stats on both of these popular support champions. For Sona, we really want to preserve the awesome poke gameplay she has with Hymn of Valor and Power Chord, but we still want her to be vulnerable when she overextends. She’s so safe in lane right now that other supports are actually less viable options by comparison. By taking her down a peg, we think we’ll actually open up the playing field in bottom lane to even more support characters. While Blitz needs to be a great deal more durable than Sona to fill his role, right now he’s so resilient that he’s able to initiate with relatively little risk. While pulling an opponent is still definitely a viable way to initiate, Blitzcrank’s tanky attributes allow him to simply use Overdrive to run in and open with Power Fist, and then yank the opponent back into range with Rocket Grab as they start to run away. We’re pleased to see these balls-out Power Fist charges, but we’d like them to serve as more of a high-risk gambit than they currently are. 嗩吶和抓抓太魯洨,基礎屬性↓ 讓嗩吶能繼續戳戳,但走太出去時,就要付出代價 抓抓太硬,加速─擊飛─抓人連段風險小,我們會提高風險 Ezreal’s Essence Fluxes Ezreal’s been a pretty consistently dominant force in the AD carry lineup since his induction into the League, albeit with a significant learning curve. Ezreal was always intended to be a slippery, long-range, high-skill champion who relied on his extreme mobility and long range poke to take down enemies. Unfortunately, right now, the Attack Speed debuff on Essence Flux is so powerful that it allows him to dominate 1 v 1 duels without doing any of that. In the upcoming patch, we’re removing the Attack Speed debuff on Essence Flux to prevent the Prodigal Explorer from simply casting his W on an adversary and then finishing off his crippled opponent with repeated attacks. This should force Ezreal players to be quicker on their feet and win duels through superior positioning rather than a brutal debuff. EZ的W攻速debuff在定孤支太高調 移除攻速debuff,所以駕駛員自己要跑快一點 (EZ:老爸,你不要我了嗎) Phage and Trinity Force On a related note, we’re also bringing the slow effect on both Phage and Trinity Force down a peg. While this isn’t a direct nerf, both Ezreal and Corki (the two prime Trinity Force customers) can snowball pretty heavily through the added chasing potential that these items provide. To give injured opponents a better chance to escape from attackers both in top and bottom lane, we are reducing the slow effect applied by ranged attacks on both items, and reducing the slow duration on Phage. 木槌三向緩速↓ 因為EZ和飛機(商品愛用者)用緩速雪球追殺太扯 為了體貼傷兵落跑,將遠距緩速效果↓,木槌緩速時間↓ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 36.236.5.189
super1937 :............. 好慘= = 好多被NERF 10/18 12:32
hasroten :很多都是該死的XD 10/18 12:33
o07608 :啪啪啪~啪~啪啪啪~啪~啪啪啪~啪~啪~~ 10/18 12:33
jason112412 :幹....EZ跟奶油獅要冰冰箱了嗎 10/18 12:33
kungen :爽!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10/18 12:34
yeo12 :這次patch全部砍到重點 riot好酷 10/18 12:34
gn01172011 :Alex把eve帶向高峰的同時 也太高調了lol 10/18 12:34
sakeru :EZ要進冰箱了 爽 10/18 12:34
acopika :世界大賽就是為了要光明正大砍這些而生的XD 10/18 12:34
lonely0830 :果然又準備汎聯盟了 10/18 12:34
tp950016 :耶 OP角GG!!! 10/18 12:34
AuSHsu :EZ要走下神壇了嗎? 10/18 12:34
maple0935 :主題賣得差不多了 該砍一砍換下一支來賣 10/18 12:34
thatzforeva :阿哈哈我心帶的阿球跟阿豹沒因為高調被Nerf超爽der 10/18 12:34
Yierhmo :開心!!!! 10/18 12:34
twic :爽~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~啦!!!!! 10/18 12:34
odanaga :球女依舊, Toyz無雙 10/18 12:35
pptsodog :EZ:乾爹~~~~~~~ 10/18 12:35
chinhan1216 :奶油獅應該不會再出來了 10/18 12:35
a8086886 :EZ這次殺太兇了 10/18 12:36
twic :卡力斯轉頭看奶油獅 倍感欣慰 10/18 12:36
Shxt :兒子要被棄養,女兒該出來了吧 10/18 12:36
s81j81js :EZ移除攻速DEBUFF???!!! EZ已死 有事燒紙.... 10/18 12:36
omanorboyo :EZ終於Q_Q 10/18 12:36
sakeru :奶油獅又變奶油了 10/18 12:36
Gaujing :ez corki nerf corki也真夠倒楣的 10/18 12:36
mark0912n :EZ走下神壇了 10/18 12:36
nerv2015 :幾乎都是砍到重點阿!! 10/18 12:36
twic :corki 可以BT被動流 10/18 12:36
timyen :呼 沒nerf球女 10/18 12:37
gn01172011 :脈衝火賣夠了 nerf EZ buff 小砲 推出火箭女孩skin! 10/18 12:37
miarika123 :EZ nerf就是爽啦!!!!!! 10/18 12:37
omanorboyo :以往出小冰槌隨意Q一下就讓gank失敗真的過太爽 10/18 12:37
Alsky18 :超爽~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 10/18 12:37
twic :簡單的說這次砍了不少破壞遊戲體驗的東西 真爽 10/18 12:37
w3160828 :回15%很多嗎 = = 10/18 12:37
mark0912n :Nerf傑西 整個爽 10/18 12:37
TZUKI :Sona感覺還好 EVE看實際數值 EZ的W正式GG 10/18 12:37
hijamoya :世界大賽的 全nerf 10/18 12:37
chinhan1216 :EZ 技能被砍 專武也砍 直接丟孤兒院了 10/18 12:38
omanorboyo :還有球女沒動刀 這也算S2賽事中頗高調的 10/18 12:38
qoozxc789 :EZ這刀太大了吧... 等於Q跟W都被nerf 10/18 12:38
eddy830908 :ez !! 打臉打得好慘 10/18 12:38
airwun :EZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 三本柱GG 10/18 12:38
qoozxc789 :而且W變成純傷害 整個廢掉武功 10/18 12:38
r44621 :靠北 我剛買EZ和傑西 10/18 12:39
joy159357 :總算是還給這遊戲一點公平 10/18 12:39
s81j81js :RIOT:EZ你別怪乾爹呀 賣蔥火焰沒啥銷路了(拿出刀來) 10/18 12:39
miarika123 :高調的不是球女 是toyz吧XD 10/18 12:39
shiun0328 :Corki表示 : 每次改版都躺著也中槍 10/18 12:39
gigaga5566 :我相信這次Nerf是為了更大的buff先砍的 親兒子耶XD 10/18 12:39
DFIGHT :哇靠,ez被打臉w後,誰打他都打的贏吧 10/18 12:39
joy159357 :W還有加攻速的效果阿 不然一加一減根本沒人打得贏 10/18 12:39
raysaysong :才剛買脈衝火啊~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 10/18 12:39
ciwewa :EZ我本來以為只會砍%數 想不到整個砍掉... 10/18 12:39
gigaga5566 :爽翻 10/18 12:39
gn01172011 :審議團:繼續討論球女要不要nerf.. Ez先 (砍) 10/18 12:39
DFIGHT :ez blitz gg 10/18 12:39
senas :傑西掰 還好沒買 10/18 12:40
ckchaos :這公司真的是有用心在改每次的版 真溫馨 10/18 12:40
qoozxc789 :看來要跟剛買的賣蔥分手了 10/18 12:40
JackSpecial :這樣EZ W只剩拿來疊攻速了 怒噓 10/18 12:40
ciwewa :這樣EZ應該要BUFF一下體質吧 不然很難對抗其他AD 10/18 12:40
pljck :冥火重製後很怪 二階裝有15%cdr 但前面都沒給 10/18 12:40
willytp97121:EZ你看看你XDD 10/18 12:40
a23017174 :EZ雖然砍過頭,不過這樣也好~不會有一堆人搶/Ban=_= 10/18 12:40
SonAkali :公平正義回來了 10/18 12:40
gigaga5566 :又回到阿萬熟悉的EZ SUCK時期了!! 10/18 12:40
n810516 :EZ廢掉了~ 10/18 12:40
Istari :EZ會死掉...W沒降功速 10/18 12:40
airwun :終於不用場場EZ了~ 10/18 12:40
michaelch :預感這改版會衝擊eu體系,下路AD前中期被砍到毫無影響 10/18 12:40
qoozxc789 :喔隊還有加攻速 10/18 12:40
Yierhmo :我相信球女只是還在考慮nerf的方式 (誤) 10/18 12:40
a127 :EZ的w也砍得太兇,這樣沒有站著跟人打的本錢了 10/18 12:41
ckchaos :大江狗時代要來臨了 S3 coming 10/18 12:41
michaelch :力,加上S2各種速推風潮,新刺殺角一堆,S3可能會巨變 10/18 12:41
odanaga :球女也只有給Toyz用OP呀XD 10/18 12:41
sakeru :S3會不會是將狗的時代呢~ 10/18 12:41
DFIGHT :ez沒w要怎麼玩,沒爆發的ez(〒︿〒) 10/18 12:41
chaos1526 :我是覺得EZ這刀砍太大了點 雖然我也不喜歡EZ世界 10/18 12:41
jeffreyshe :corki勝率夠慘了 被ez颱風尾掃到 10/18 12:41
callmedance :udyr咧~ 喊幾萬年也沒照顧過半次 10/18 12:41
AriaYang :移除攻速debuff剛好而已 有強順移了單挑又強合理嗎? 10/18 12:42
gn01172011 :阿萬將軍的EZ廢物語錄 可以op拿出來再看一次了 10/18 12:42
hijamoya :這版本什麼時候改啊? 10/18 12:42
iljapan61 :Udyr:我呢??? 10/18 12:42
DFIGHT :完了完了,我最愛的w被改爛了。 10/18 12:42
callmedance :木槌降低遠距攻擊緩讚阿 最好是ez緩到一下就摸到死 10/18 12:42
VoyagerKid :大叔再起? 10/18 12:42
nifocy :NUNU 崛起 10/18 12:42
DFIGHT :心情好差囧rz 10/18 12:43
takura :EZ已死, 有事燒紙 10/18 12:43
cbull :愉悦 10/18 12:43
w3160828 :球女從廢物變成可以堪用 後來S2大放光彩 然後又要砍 10/18 12:43
s905372000 :爽快 10/18 12:43
Torscana :EZ nerf就是爽! 看了滿街的EZ頗煩 10/18 12:43
jason112412 :EZ改這樣後期還要跟其他ADC打嗎 哭哭 10/18 12:43
a127 :小木槌被改弱,辛吉德重出江湖! 10/18 12:43
acer6772 :EZ已死 耶 10/18 12:43
AriaYang :EZ居然要有站著跟人打的本錢? 對方可是打輸還逃不走 10/18 12:43
BabybearXD :沒有跟人站著打的本錢 炮娘 希維爾表示 10/18 12:43
callmedance :應該要給近戰AD(非坦)角色一個後期發揮的戰場 10/18 12:44
ckchaos :要開始走嗜血者了 10/18 12:44
ssaamm810130:幹 要開始重練汎了 還有期待小砲娘重生 10/18 12:44
kuku321 :這次刀刀命中重點! RIOT 讚! 10/18 12:44
miarika123 :#1GUlUEfZ 阿萬語錄 10/18 12:44
Messi100 :OP角被nerf就是爽啦 10/18 12:44
onejeff :練大叔了阿XD 10/18 12:45
ilris :..OTZ 10/18 12:45
Shxt :球女一直都沒有廢物啦 .. 10/18 12:45
w3160828 :當奶油獅天天五星喔 10/18 12:45
Vanbery :EZ從某時期開始就一直不斷的buff,技能屬性狂buff 10/18 12:45
Vanbery :以技能特效做代價根本剛好 10/18 12:45
Regition :爽支支!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10/18 12:45
a127 :球女一開始也是威到爆炸,那時候的Q長到嚇死人 10/18 12:45
TZUKI :大膽預測 小砲 Kog 汎 10/18 12:46
DFIGHT :w被打槍,我根本不想玩他了,天啊~ 10/18 12:46
callmedance :ez自從賣蔥skin一出就buff到現在賣差不多了開始nerf 10/18 12:46
BigCockman :爽啦ez早該砍了 給你兩個閃現了還想跟人站著單挑? 10/18 12:46
rufjvm12345 :有喔 球女有一次NERF的不成人樣 根本沒人想用 10/18 12:46
w3160828 :之前版本不是球女的技能都超短 短到跟星多拉一樣 10/18 12:46
skyabsence :奶油獅:幹 S2我沒出場也被砍 哭哭 10/18 12:46
damn7 :木鎚改弱連上路大男也吃虧.... 10/18 12:46
kurtsun :去死吧EZ!!!!!!!!! 10/18 12:46
w3160828 :小冰垂只改遠程阿 10/18 12:47
DFIGHT :我沒錢買其他6300adr,阿~天啊~ 10/18 12:47
super1937 :有些將狗也會出木鎚~ 10/18 12:47
w3160828 :上路大男只有奶大力順便掃到吧 10/18 12:47
callmedance :改遠程而已吧 近距也改的話就腦殘了 10/18 12:47
hiphopper18 :只改遠程的話JG跟大男大女應該不影響 10/18 12:47
super1937 :出木鎚三相的都會有影響到吧 上路好像不少 10/18 12:48
thatzforeva :奶大表示:無感 10/18 12:48
yoliyoli :球女也只有特定人用才會強吧! 大部分人用還不到OP 10/18 12:48
gigaga5566 :飛機:我已經沒有特異功能了ˋ 結果躺著也中槍 10/18 12:48
cbull :緩速只nerf遠程 10/18 12:48
super1937 :喔喔 遠距 原來如此@@ 10/18 12:48
w3160828 :小冰是改遠程= = 10/18 12:48
blackteasart:耶 還好EZ只是為了玩賣蔥拿出來戳的 (欸 10/18 12:48
gigaga5566 :球女感覺是QWE 連技變順才變很好用 10/18 12:49
a127 :這樣EZ不只被砍W,連專武都被砍,有點哭哭 10/18 12:49
gn01172011 :奶油獅:s2沒出場還被nerf..這不是惹人嫌嗎 10/18 12:49
freedom77 :緩速時間變短了.. 10/18 12:49
Dubroy :EZ你可要好好做人 如果作奸犯科的話 乾爺爺也保不了 10/18 12:49
egg87346 :ez這是瞬間掰掰吧....我的天 10/18 12:49
gigaga5566 :感覺火箭炮娘要出來了!? 10/18 12:49
vincent0911x:因為RIOT知道做壞了 10/18 12:49
EricXD :yaya 10/18 12:50
a127 :奶油獅在RANK太淫蕩早就臭名滿天下了 10/18 12:50
dynamis :為什麼要叫奶油獅@@ 太軟了嗎 10/18 12:50
qoozxc789 :我是覺得EZW的AS點高以後很誇張 可是也不用全砍吧XD 10/18 12:50
callmedance :ez其實也只不過是W弱掉讓其他AD可以跟他站著打 10/18 12:50
gigaga5566 :AP打法還沒開發完跟兩段跳大量使用之前 都叫奶油獅XD 10/18 12:50
a127 :EZ的W誇張的是刷一下,讓對面的遠程AD廢掉 10/18 12:51
a23017174 :W砍過頭,Riot可能不知道Ezreal的體質有多弱~ 10/18 12:51
gagabrit :球女真要砍也不會重傷吧,大賽是toyz的問題 10/18 12:51
ccode :奶油獅聽起來很可愛啊,是吧是吧(戳戳 10/18 12:51
iljapan61 :賣蔥火焰 崔斯提娜 要升天摟 10/18 12:51
callmedance :現在是站著打不過ez 打贏了要追還追不到(2閃現) 10/18 12:51
a23017174 :這樣改的話完全要靠風箏了:D 10/18 12:51
egg87346 :我不太懂riot打臉幹麻每次都要打到人家不能做人 10/18 12:51
rufjvm12345 :那EZ W至少改成可以對小兵造成傷害吧 10/18 12:51
gigaga5566 :其他AD跟EZ單挑 只要被W掃到 根本不用打 所以一直砍W 10/18 12:51
gagabrit :佛根也有說球女應該只會小砍 10/18 12:52
ckchaos :震盪式的調整 總會有個平衡 10/18 12:52
rain42 :都砍一砍吧 我喜歡玩被砍過的 10/18 12:52
Gaujing :對小兵造成傷害 ap ez就有搞頭了 10/18 12:52
beyblade5566:EZ那個不改只要被放到W就只有EZ換你血 根本換不了EZ 10/18 12:53
GLAMOROCK :我超愛用抓抓阿= =~~~ 10/18 12:53
kuku321 :球女要砍可能只會砍普攻追加傷害,技能不好上手 10/18 12:53
toloveXD :EZ的W沒降攻速還有什麼用? 10/18 12:53
Windancecat :那EZ W要幹嘛 放隊友嗎 10/18 12:53
gagabrit :而且現在出現的Ori應該大多數都被殺爆無誤(煙~ 10/18 12:53
blackxo4u86 :ez從神話變笑話了嗎 10/18 12:53
amALu :YAYAYAYYAY ez nerf!!! 10/18 12:53
callmedance :要問為什麼現在ez可以逃跑無敵追擊無敵站著打也無敵 10/18 12:53
artz6030 :EZ W沒有了debuff,比起對面AD 傷害很可憐耶 10/18 12:54
microbe882 :EZ nerf!!! 10/18 12:54
bush6993 :這次的PATCH真是大快人心啊!!!哈哈哈哈 10/18 12:54
marcoyao :我EVE沒玩多久然後最愛的SONA也砍 怒噓 10/18 12:55
kurtsun :EZ你可要好好做人 如果作奸犯科的話 親爹也保不了你 10/18 12:55
kducky :正直與善良回來了 10/18 12:55
Windancecat :EZ要改的是E的距離跟CD吧 W可以調係數阿 10/18 12:55
WiNdexEX :EZ 掰 10/18 12:55
chaos1526 :有時候老是會一改就從天堂到地獄 不能只到凡間就好嗎 10/18 12:55
timsheu :爽翻lol雖然我愛EZ可是這改得很中肯 10/18 12:56
zeldazefac :ez已死 有事燒紙 10/18 12:56
toloveXD :話說EZ降攻速砍掉,nunu是否該砍一下加攻速跑速那招 10/18 12:56
ilohoo :S2大鳴大放後要來秋後算帳了 10/18 12:56
rufjvm12345 :RIOT有戴鐵手套 下手不知輕重 10/18 12:57
gigaga5566 :NUNU 的W可沒有降攻速那招阿~~~~XD 10/18 12:57
Drone :努努砍加速跑速那招就0出場了.. 10/18 12:57
artz6030 :這幾天趕快完Ez吧 之後又要冰箱了 10/18 12:57
ssaamm810130:狂練汎的時間到了 10/18 12:58
polas :已經靠Eve偷到白金了,nice nerf\^0^/ 10/18 12:58
jayin07 :還好阿部高和力度普通而已~~~ 10/18 12:58
timsheu :EZ攻速該改,降攻速太無腦,不太像技術型角色 10/18 12:59
shortoneal :在你實際打之前你也不知道是到凡間還地獄啊 10/18 12:59
marcoyao :NUNU已經很可憐了 別砍好嗎 10/18 12:59
ppppp367 :這次砍了一堆角色!! 其他角色可以回來了 10/18 13:00
pipiispipi :汎跟砲娘的崛起 10/18 13:00
Yadsmood :==注意一下原文是PBE Preview 不代表正式完全一樣 10/18 13:00
omanorboyo :還有漏網之魚沒打到臉嗎? 10/18 13:00
timyen :以前EZ的W還是回血招呢 10/18 13:00
willy14 :愉悅 10/18 13:00
Solosea :我只能說EZ改成這樣 還不是ADR系列最慘的 剛好而已 10/18 13:03
gekisen :球女沒被NERF Toyz表示愉悅 10/18 13:03
anstary :爽!!! 10/18 13:03
Lusmall :說卡力斯BUFF呢O_Q 10/18 13:03
ndbs :跳過砍%數直接砍掉是啥小 我還沒玩爽啊...-.-+ 10/18 13:03
Mercury0625 :對一個打中路跟江狗的來說,這PATCH完全無感 10/18 13:04
ejvup :石頭人 噁心的大絕呢?? 10/18 13:04
spring1989 :EZ三本柱要被汎取代了嗎 10/18 13:04
darrenyang64:石頭人其實有克制方法吧 這次大賽都很少ban/pick了 10/18 13:04
wgscwgsc100 :EZ GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG 10/18 13:04
hangEasy :球女是toyz太強 10/18 13:05
darrenyang64:我想石頭人只是強再solo Q 而已 10/18 13:05
petersos80 :你砍EZ的三向 但是庫奇呢Q Q 10/18 13:05
by0413 :石頭人之前就已經被砍過一次了 10/18 13:05
sky70442 :eve 不~~~~ 10/18 13:05
qoozxc789 :庫奇真的很可憐XD 10/18 13:05
catsondbs :奶油獅大絕nerf好痛.....QQ 10/18 13:06
et310 :啪啪啪啪啪啪啪啪啪 10/18 13:06
OyAlbert :EZ臉被打超腫,奶油獅也是悲劇 10/18 13:07
Lusmall :庫奇被颱風尾掃到 安息吧 老頭~~ 10/18 13:07
sanxiao :奶油獅在無腦看看阿? 爽 10/18 13:08
diablo81321 :三本柱要變飛機大叔汎了 10/18 13:09
rexdauder :ez活該 10/18 13:09
blkblk :這幾刀好痛 10/18 13:10
silveriii :挖靠 大砍特砍 出頭的都被砍頭了XDD 10/18 13:10
skysound :OP角 全都砍 喔YA 10/18 13:11
gn01172011 :庫奇:... 10/18 13:11
petersos80 :三本柱 可能換成 大叔 砲娘 庫奇吧XD 10/18 13:12
petersos80 :只是庫奇乖乖去出嗜血者吧 10/18 13:13
sorryfly :三本柱還是太高調 哈哈哈XD 10/18 13:13
suikanta :原PO 傲嬌 10/18 13:13
onejeff :大叔 飛機 狗 10/18 13:14
onejeff :飛機加油 10/18 13:14
softseaweed :大家都nerf, 耶~ 10/18 13:14
Lusmall :好運姊低調OP中 5V5超好掃場的AD 10/18 13:15
softseaweed :到最後會不會變成沒人打得贏小兵 10/18 13:15
wafone :ez...........爽啦 10/18 13:15
iamfenixsc :爽 EZ感覺如何啊你感覺如何阿~~ 10/18 13:15
irenenige :看到奶油師和ez打臉 我好開心 科科 10/18 13:15
onejeff :EZ砍超大 W範圍先變小 然後又再砍一次 10/18 13:16
diablo81321 :小砲也要重見天日了嗎 10/18 13:16
chaos1526 :噓,在這篇我一直特意不提好運姐的說 10/18 13:16
bernon :反正我每次都nerf EZ,沒人打得過我的汎 10/18 13:17
kim79923 :oriana沒nerf?!! 10/18 13:17
diablo81321 :MF......贏不了三本吧 10/18 13:17
bernon :我是說ban,說錯了 10/18 13:17
diablo81321 :她不是那麼好上手 10/18 13:17
hangEasy :庫奇勝率又不高。 10/18 13:19
widec :SONAㄋㄟㄋㄟ不能亡! 10/18 13:19
s4511981 :球女居然沒有被NERF……XDDD 10/18 13:20
polas :Orianna已經很可憐了,不要再欺負她了 10/18 13:20
PP68 :這好大一刀阿!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10/18 13:20
timsheu :好運姐只要跳彈跳得好…根本超爽poke… 10/18 13:20
bulcas :爽 EZ 根本太犯規 不砍根本沒道理 10/18 13:21
polas :這一週不知道有多少人懷抱著夢想選她,然後一場被打醒 10/18 13:21
ahinetn123 :正式改版應該會有又多幾個英雄中槍 10/18 13:21
BOMDING :這樣砍EZ的優勢感覺完全沒了啊 就是一隻年輕的庫奇 10/18 13:21
ccode :感謝yads大 10/18 13:22
Lusmall :庫奇沒雪球逼對面/FF 後期蠻容易悲劇的吧 10/18 13:22
ccode :丁丁別以為婊我不會被我發現 10/18 13:23
x09285006 :EZ:爹~~~~~~~~~QAQ 10/18 13:23
peacesb :終於可以玩奶油獅了 10/18 13:24
xzsa1471 :如果只剩純傷害的話 那至少把的W改回之前寬度吧 10/18 13:25
sunofmind :萬惡的E沒改就該偷笑了 W怎麼可能會改回來 再怎麼說 10/18 13:27
ahinetn123 :把w改成扣雙防15%好了 10/18 13:27
sunofmind :EZ 都還是風箏逃命最強的AD 10/18 13:27
aredifficult:有E在就有希望 10/18 13:30
Yanrei :機器人的硬度真的很誇張,改一下還蠻合理的…… 10/18 13:31
typenephew :Sona被不停動刀 10/18 13:31
Zaxizuz :獅子NERF 爽 之前壓不贏 腦隊友說被NERF過還壓輸 10/18 13:32
Kaiser :EZ這樣 變超爛的= = 10/18 13:32
colmash :EZ的W原本是加友軍攻速降敵人攻速 10/18 13:33
JasonTea :雖然自己玩AD,但EZ被nerf就是爽,怎不多nerf一點? 10/18 13:33
teakdavid968:nuke?? 10/18 13:33
lpdpCossette:木槌一砍好多人中傷耶 10/18 13:33
jesse090828 :EZ XDDDDDDDDDDDd 哈哈哈你看看你 10/18 13:33
colmash :這個是讓他在下路硬打時很吃香的原因之一 10/18 13:33
colmash :這次拔掉一半算正常啦@@ 10/18 13:33
colmash :一招三個效果.. 10/18 13:33
linyi520 :yaaaaaaaaaaa 10/18 13:34
s20119 :還好我玩EZ不出三項 10/18 13:34
a2364983 :EZ的E沒動應該很難走下神壇 10/18 13:35
totocc :EZ... 老爸不要你了 QQ 10/18 13:36
totocc :這樣改他還是很靈活 只是對線沒那麼難搞了 YA 10/18 13:36
hydra6716 :EZ這樣一改又改回Q主流 Q主流對線又開始被一半ad打爆 10/18 13:37
james41015 :還好前幾天脈衝半價沒買...... 10/18 13:38
Yanrei :soraka、sona、Blitz都nerf之後,該換練什麼sup呢.. 10/18 13:38
hydra6716 :Kog Varus MF 甚至操作好的Vayne都可以 10/18 13:38
sunofmind :先預測 RIOT之子仍然會是AD三本柱 但玩家會減少 10/18 13:38
egg87346 :大家還是回到那個點q衝嗜血者的伊則吧.... 10/18 13:39
a23017174 :Ezreal這樣改就改回很久以前的Poke流而已。 10/18 13:39
donkey5566 :球女沒隊友配合威不起來啊 這是技術面的東西 10/18 13:40
hydra6716 :球女沒隊友配合威不起來,你認真的? 10/18 13:42
zjps3407 :球女是真的需要練習才玩得起來..不認為需要改 10/18 13:42
donkey5566 :妳的隊友不會配合你的球的話 會戰不好放到最佳點 10/18 13:43
w9103 :淚流滿面 終於NERF親兒子了 10/18 13:44
hydra6716 :明明就是自己判斷該丟誰 該往哪丟就很好處理的東西 10/18 13:44
hydra6716 :我同意需要練習 但完全不同意沒隊友配合就不強 10/18 13:44
donkey5566 :假如都沒人走到最佳點呢? 球女自己走過去? 10/18 13:44
hydra6716 :ori現在就是強在全能,隊友不強一樣可以發揮 10/18 13:44
hydra6716 :隊友配合只是威力更強而已。 10/18 13:44
twic :球女超全面的好嗎 哪裡一定需要隊友配合 10/18 13:45
colmash :球女S2之前勝率只有四成五啊XDDDD 10/18 13:45
hydra6716 :如果你的球只能"丟到隊友身上才能combo"的話 10/18 13:45
colmash :為啥過個S2就成神了XDDD 10/18 13:45
donkey5566 :沒隊友配合他就只是一般ap 沒到弱 根本沒必要nerf 10/18 13:45
polas :沒隊友幫忙做球的話,其他AP怎麼打Ori就怎麼打阿 10/18 13:45
donkey5566 :當然不是只能靠隊友 但少了隊友你的球就不好發揮 10/18 13:45
hydra6716 :對阿,但你的說法很像是"ori沒隊友就不強" 10/18 13:46
hydra6716 :哪有這種事,solo q會玩的話自己也可以發揮很好 10/18 13:46
hydra6716 :他只是"技術含量較高"而已 10/18 13:46
donkey5566 :扣掉可以配合隊友加成 球女才真的很強 E比Q遠很多 10/18 13:46
hydra6716 :有好隊友會降低你技術含量需求。如此而已 10/18 13:46
hydra6716 :難道toyz ori都是e出去combo?no,你仔細看他更多 10/18 13:47
Yadsmood :真心建議不要跟嗨爪爭論 10/18 13:47
hydra6716 :時後是非常準確的善用Q的最大距離進行combo 10/18 13:47
younglol :奶油獅準備進冰箱囉 10/18 13:47
ccode :卡瑪大嬸才吃隊友吧。沒人進場沒盾放 10/18 13:48
donkey5566 :那又怎樣 那不過就是一般AP的強度啊 有必要NERF? 10/18 13:48
hydra6716 :你哪裡看到我說需要nerf (? 10/18 13:48
donkey5566 :加上隊友球女才能發揮120%的能力 這怎麼nerf? 10/18 13:48
Yanrei :卡馬不吃隊友吧,他已經沒救了(咦?) 10/18 13:49
donkey5566 :上面一堆人說的 我只是敘述球女單人強度不需要nerf 10/18 13:49
ccode :其實你們早就取得共識... 10/18 13:49
hydra6716 :他只是技量需求高,但solo q沒好隊友一樣可以很強 10/18 13:49
hydra6716 :不是什麼"威不起來"這種話。你這樣會讓人誤會ori 10/18 13:50
hydra6716 :solo q是隻吃隊友的角色,實際上不是 10/18 13:50
hydra6716 :有好隊友只是讓他變魔王。 10/18 13:50
hydra6716 :ori現在強的點就是counter少又全能 10/18 13:50
donkey5566 :我覺得你只是誤解了我的話 我並沒有說球女不強 10/18 13:50
hydra6716 :但因為技量需求高,所以solo q不OP 10/18 13:50
twic :好別吵了 nerf奶油獅應該普天同慶 10/18 13:51
WarIII :Ori主要還是空大的問題吧 當你放招太容易空大 10/18 13:51
hydra6716 :反正ori現在要不要砍就看S3後比賽的表現吧 10/18 13:51
hydra6716 :繼續高調下去,就算solo q不OP 一樣準備被砍死 10/18 13:51
WarIII :表示你的出招方式太單調 因為Ori combo花樣太多 10/18 13:51
JiangWuYang :光是難COUNTER就很op囉 10/18 13:52
WarIII :空大的問題讓Ori在soloQ成為還能接受的強度 10/18 13:52
howar31 :終於要少一點人搶EZ了 YA 10/18 13:53
sillymon :小木槌NERF CORKI莫名其妙被nerf一點點... 10/18 13:53
donkey5566 :飛機是被ez拖累啊...ez砍了也好 看到快吐了 10/18 13:54
hydra6716 :corki以比賽出場率來看,問題還是不大 10/18 13:54
donkey5566 :不過我衷心希望e也砍一點XD 10/18 13:54
sillymon :還有小木槌也是ad大男的愛用物品說 10/18 13:56
hiphopper18 :我才趁半價買好男人的說... 10/18 13:56
K988 :卡瑪呢................................. 10/18 13:57
Jarvan4 :靠... EZ W攻速減少被修掉 那還打的贏別的AD嗎... 10/18 13:58
twic :你corki可以出BT啊 三向又不是唯一解 10/18 13:58
iluy :sup nunu 更威了..... 10/18 13:59
floydhess :減攻速被改掉 就只能遠遠poke再打一波了 10/18 13:59
Yanrei :一樣在冠軍戰被ban的死歌安全下台XDDD 10/18 13:59
davy012345 :ez你看看你 10/18 14:00
floydhess :跟其他AD站著互打沒法贏了 之前太無腦 10/18 14:00
Jarvan4 :幹嘛改掉W攻速減少阿 頂多減少係數或者一些Ratio阿.. 10/18 14:00
twic :死歌再nerf, solo Q就沒人要出了 10/18 14:00
Jarvan4 :連小冰槌都改掉 這樣我上路跟EZ是要玩啥 10/18 14:00
hydra6716 :死歌就強一個冠軍賽 冠軍賽前勝率30% 10/18 14:00
hydra6716 :如果會被砍,那我才真的要為他默哀 10/18 14:01
toxintoxin :死哥要靠凌虐自家JG + 完美會戰 SoloQ基本有解 10/18 14:01
isaac534643 :爽爽爽 10/18 14:02
JiangWuYang :近戰用小兵垂的NERF比較小一點XD 10/18 14:03
a23017174 :因為他砍是要砍遠程風箏,不是砍近戰追擊。 10/18 14:03
polas :小冰槌nerf只砍遠距離攻擊的部份吧(?) 對上路還好(?) 10/18 14:04
JiangWuYang :緩速時間應該是都砍 效果的話主要砍遠程 10/18 14:05
gn02118620 :球女很強 但toyz用的話不只是強... 10/18 14:05
ernieyang09 :ez稱線是有差一點 感覺後期還是很猛 重點是抓不到 10/18 14:06
gn02118620 :球女要nerf大概是要nerf盾. 無損換血太扯 10/18 14:07
twic :連TPA選不到都要自己ban了 某方面來說很類似sona 10/18 14:07
ernieyang09 :而且EZ後期哪有再用W輸出 頂多拆塔幫隊友W 10/18 14:07
twic :一個中路全面 一個下路全面 10/18 14:07
polas :我覺得原文的"by ranged attacks"也適用於砍小冰槌 10/18 14:07
polas :緩速時間那句說...不太確定就是 10/18 14:07
twic :W重點本來就不是輸出 是降攻速 10/18 14:08
gn02118620 :死哥我相信就是toyz威能 對azf第一場冰鳥壓死哥 第二 10/18 14:08
gn02118620 :場死哥壓冰鳥..這..似乎nerf toyz才是唯一解 10/18 14:08
ernieyang09 :你後期會戰W也很難點到ADC 當然還是的確還是有機會 10/18 14:08
ernieyang09 :應該是後期單挑也變弱ㄧ些 10/18 14:08
twic :main AP都該練球女看看 有趣又可以配合很多戰術打法 10/18 14:09
kuku321 :球女打路人風險不低 10/18 14:10
donkey5566 :當你把球放隊友準備要大的時候 隊友突然跑掉會很囧 10/18 14:10
hydra6716 :他gcd已經短很多了,會碰到那種問題通常是你判斷出錯 10/18 14:10
donkey5566 :Not at all...這問題不解釋 10/18 14:11
gn02118620 :我是覺得球女的盾太機掰..短CD 高護盾..還能洗冰.. 10/18 14:11
donkey5566 :實際去玩就知道了 上禮拜一堆球女 這禮拜都消失了 10/18 14:12
hydra6716 :我當然有實際去玩阿0.0,我認為E R fail都不該怪隊友 10/18 14:12
lpdpCossette:喔 主要是砍遠程效果和木槌debuff時間 近戰三相沒差 10/18 14:13
donkey5566 :我是說覺得盾太op的...球女要是主點盾 初期會沒爆發 10/18 14:14
childay :砍得很準, 被動得幾乎都是OP角, 果然是有用心的遊戲 10/18 14:14
hydra6716 :froggen : 我說過ori根本不該buff 10/18 14:14
gn02118620 :對球女似乎只能用更op的eve或是leb kass這種秒殺突進 10/18 14:14
gn02118620 :打 10/18 14:14
gn02118620 :不然你一波打不死他它就可以持續輸出. 10/18 14:15
hydra6716 :ori有盾,不算太怕kass跟eve 10/18 14:15
hydra6716 :eve就是怕有盾的,ori是其中一個 10/18 14:15
hydra6716 :除非你能在沉默時間(kass)或者一波(eve)打死他 10/18 14:15
hydra6716 :不然他有盾跟w風箏,eve並不好solo ori 10/18 14:15
hydra6716 :所以ori比賽才屌,幾乎沒counter 跟前一版酒桶一樣 10/18 14:16
kuku321 :ori對線很吃藍,但出聖杯小會戰大多是控場大於輸出 10/18 14:16
gn02118620 :不過soloq跟ng真的很多空大球女啦...XDD 10/18 14:17
kuku321 :要隊友跟上火力,不然solo不如出其他角色 10/18 14:17
hydra6716 :那也只有"大大大前期"而已XD,ori超好farm 10/18 14:17
johnruby :幹 木槌又不是只有飛機和親兒子在用 nerf個啥啊!!! 10/18 14:17
hydra6716 :裝備成型超快,很快就會度過火力空窗 10/18 14:17
s905372000 :E應該CD要拉長 10/18 14:18
gn02118620 :球女應該是R>Q>W>E吧 但E一高就會開始無恥了.. 10/18 14:18
virus13 :我覺得小木鎚只至針對遠程 近戰三相流還是差不多 10/18 14:18
donkey5566 :出聖杯有超好farm嗎 只能一套吃三隻遠攻吧 10/18 14:18
shathyst :hydra高端吧 每一篇都有高見 10/18 14:18
hydra6716 :比賽的ori都是w先滿 e q再做抉擇 10/18 14:19
hydra6716 :w先滿洗兵穩定很多。 10/18 14:19
Yanrei :上面實況剛好有一個球女XDDD 10/18 14:19
gox1117 :球女沒被砍XDDDDD 10/18 14:19
donkey5566 :w先滿才有爆發 不過Q先滿好騷擾 10/18 14:20
kuku321 :要看打法,如果要farm,球女的確能有效壓制,但如果要跑 10/18 14:20
kuku321 :線支援,ori並不突出,solo我寧可用hard cc多跑線殺人 10/18 14:20
gn02118620 :可是我看toyz的都是Q>W .其實蠻好奇的.因為W ap加成 10/18 14:21
gn02118620 :高 10/18 14:21
hydra6716 :ori跑線是不強,但野戰很強 10/18 14:21
hydra6716 :重點是他真的真的 非常好farm 10/18 14:21
kuku321 :之前很常玩ori,我是R>Q>W>E,Q的騷擾很痛 10/18 14:21
kuku321 :比起W,Q很容易在對方想尾兵時壓制,但要W必須建立在 10/18 14:22
twic :拿藍Q短CD騷擾啊 10/18 14:22
BigBaBu :有人根本就愛玩文字遊戲 腦補對方意思找架吵嘛= = 10/18 14:22
kuku321 :Q擊中對手的情況,那...Q的擊中次數比W高,該先點哪招? 10/18 14:22
tcancer :百萬美金的角色平衡性測試 10/18 14:22
kuku321 :而且W耗魔兇,通常是幫JG GANK比較實用 10/18 14:23
hydra6716 :GCD縮短之後 Q W連段幾乎不會miss W,其實還好 10/18 14:24
gn02118620 :不過說這麼多 以後toyz比賽也拿不到球女了... 10/18 14:24
virus13 :看對面走位再取捨 q或w 但w耗魔很高 我不覺先滿w好農 10/18 14:24
mightysuns :哈哈 有笑有推 10/18 14:24
hydra6716 :聖杯線我還真的幾乎沒啥農到乾過 10/18 14:24
hydra6716 :ROA線的話的確可能會有魔力問題 10/18 14:25
benka :奶油獅Q改8秒已經很雞掰了 為何要一直打臉 10/18 14:25
virus13 :簡言之 滿q比滿w好農 先滿w不是為了農 10/18 14:25
hydra6716 :其實ori不管先滿哪個都好農,w是穩定 但q也很快 10/18 14:25
gn02118620 :先滿W是爆發 ..真的很痛. 10/18 14:26
virus13 :話說這patch什時要上??我好期待砲娘 10/18 14:27
kuku321 :說奶油獅還好的,一定沒試過,滿血想去包殘血獅子時 10/18 14:28
kuku321 :兩個滿血瞬間被W融化,對方1鞋3水 LV4沒回家過的情況 10/18 14:28
JackysNose :奶油獅掰掰啦 爽 10/18 14:30
ppppp367 :奶油獅 和EVE 這兩隻目前真的有點扯 10/18 14:30
ppppp367 :昨天那場EVE直接順秒AD 只有大+冥火就秒了 10/18 14:31
virus13 :好險我中路現在在練火人和lux op角色一定被nerf的 10/18 14:31
virus13 :所以我都不練op強勢角 10/18 14:31
ppppp367 :自己都沒再玩中路 第一次用EVE走中 就上手= = 10/18 14:32
peacesb :獅子 Q是Lv1~Lv5之前W沒點高的過度期爆發用的 10/18 14:33
peacesb :對線主力技應該還是W 只要不nerf 15%回血 10/18 14:34
peacesb :他依舊可以賴線+防+poke 三合一慢慢跟你耗 10/18 14:34
witness0828 :再見了 EVE 10/18 14:34
twic :15%回血無恥啊 傷害+雙防+補血+aoe 這什麼巫術 10/18 14:38
virus13 :我也覺得w滿無恥 但最近好多獅子都先滿q 不懂 10/18 14:39
SINXIII :剛買杰西跟EZ哭哭 10/18 14:39
Zaxizuz :獅子E也有點扯 LV1 緩50%2.5秒根本不平衡 10/18 14:42
virus13 :獅子的w e都比Q op多了q要裝備起來才有傷害 10/18 14:45
satan317 :EVE掰了 10/18 14:45
gn02118620 :無消耗的腳色平衡度太難拿捏 不是太強比賽永ban就是 10/18 14:45
gn02118620 :永遠沒人選 10/18 14:45
yang790609 :Vayne跟KOG要出頭天了!!! 10/18 15:02
HIRUMA :抓抓是三小? 10/18 15:27
CrazyLord :啊哈哈EZ妳看看妳 10/18 15:30
vythxsheep :飛機真的躺著也中槍 不能只有ez拿冰垂效果減半嗎? 10/18 15:34
omanorboyo :樓上XDD 10/18 15:44
drag23232001:更多的nerf 10/18 15:46
Uncontinue :本來前幾天想買EZ 還好沒買 10/18 15:49
alegoo :˙潔西有改的很弱媽O_O? 10/18 15:52
greenturtlet:暗~~這幾隻我都有 10/18 15:55
CrazyLord :EZ還有一個超級優越的E 幹嘛buff體質 10/18 15:56
greenturtlet:抓抓我是看英文原文才知道他是誰..... 10/18 16:00
windsinger :Ez的W緩速直接砍掉好誇張 囧 10/18 16:01
zxp910608 :我覺得EVE還好 她都當逼退角多久了... 10/18 16:21
winklly :ez lol 要變成oddone的版的EZ了 10/18 16:21
linbada :飛機:躺著也中槍 10/18 16:26
shy801020 :EZ被打臉好爽 10/18 16:54
kk032576 :ya 球女沒砍xDDD 10/18 17:51
L0v35 :EZ好慘喔 10/18 18:25
ohmygod0715 :EZ去死 10/18 18:31
scott771128 :就算被砍還是會玩Ez , 早就習慣以前被唾棄了 LOL 10/18 18:34
Orianna :Syndra=五球女? 球女只能有一個 10/18 19:01
kshsedch :爽~~~~~~ 10/18 21:29
asd2260123 :vayne擠下ez惹 10/19 00:11
hardyuse :已收入精華區 10/24 18:45