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標題[外絮] 前CLG.EU加盟EG--幕後故事
時間Sat Jan 26 23:48:11 2013
http://tinyurl.com/av8ybpl
原文來自Gamespot
Former CLG EU League of Legends team officially joins Evil Geniuses
前CLG.EU LoL戰隊正式加入Evil Geniuses
Former Counter Logic Gaming European League of Legends team joining new
organization, confirming report from earlier this month.
The international eSports organization Evil Geniuses has officially announced
that the former Counter Logic Gaming European League of Legends team will be
joining the organization. This confirms a GameSpot report on the situation from
January 3. Both parties have come to an agreement on terms that will reportedly
make them the highest paid League of Legends team in the world.
這個月稍早,正式證實了前CLG.EU LoL戰隊加入了一個新組織。國際性的電競組織
Evil Geniuses正式宣佈前CLG.EU LoL戰隊的加入。這項消息也證實了GameSpot在
一月三號的報導。雙方達成了一份協議,根據情報指出這份合約將會讓他們成為世
界最高薪的LoL隊伍。
The full five-man roster of Stephen “Snoopeh” Ellis, Henrik “Froggen”
Hansen, Peter “Yellowpete” Wüppen, Mitch “Krepo” Voorspoels and Mike “
Wickd” Petersen have signed a one-year contract with the team. The DreamHack
Summer champions have been mulling over their future these last few months,
having serious discussions with Evil Geniuses and Curse, and the thought of
starting their own team. The finalization of the deal comes after many months
of back-and-forth of meetings between Evil Geniuses Owner Alex Garfield and the
team, with Ellis at the helm of the talks. It is said to be the longest
contract negotiation Evil Geniuses have ever had with a player or team.
戰隊全員五人,包括Stephen "Snoopeh" Ellis、Henrik "Froggen" Hansen、Peter
"Yellowpete" Wuppen、Mitch "Krepo" Voorspoels和Mike "Wickd" Peterson都與EG
簽下一年合約。這支DreamHack夏季冠軍隊在最近這幾個月慎重的考慮了他們的將來,
並且與EG以及Curse有過幾次很認真的討論,甚至想過自己開創一個新隊伍。這件事在
由Ellis(Snoopeh)作為隊伍代表與EG老闆Alex Garfield、以及自己隊內幾次來來回
回的會議之後正式決定了。這被認為是EG有史以來跟玩家或隊伍最長的一次合約談判。
Representatives from both sides told GameSpot that this was not the focal point
of the deal, as several other factors such as security, longevity, team
stability, streaming platform, and belief in each other were weighed with
financials. Garfield met with Ellis over the course of six times throughout the
past half-year, with an initial meeting shortly before Ellis and his team
played in Korea’s OGN The Champions League.
兩邊的代表告訴GameSpot這項合約有些其他的焦點因素,像是安全性、隊伍壽命、隊
伍穩定性、實況平台,以及對彼此經濟穩定性的信賴等等。Garfield在過去半年內為
了這些事項跟Ellis會了六次面。他們第一次的會面是在CLG.EU參加韓國的OGN冠軍聯
賽前一小段時間。
After narrowly losing to Azubu Frost in The Champions finals, Ellis and his
team began to explore their options for 2013. Their contract with CLG was
ending December 31, and the team knew of CLG’s plans to partner with Azubu for
the future. While the partnership presented opportunities for the team, they
saw it more as a hindrance that relied too much on venture capital investment,
and a lot of moving parts. The players felt CLG was not at the same level
professionally as other established organizations, so came to a decision that
without a major change in development, they would not extend their contracts
into the new year.
在以毫釐之差的狀況下在決賽輸給Azubu Frost之後,Ellis和他的隊伍開始尋找2013
年的新選項。他們和CLG的合約在12月31號結束,而他們也知道CLG與Azubu的合作計畫
。這項合作計畫對隊伍來說提供了一些機會,但他們認為考慮到這項計畫依賴太多創
業投資以及不穩定要素。他們覺得CLG和其他已經成立一段時間的組織比起來專業性
並不在同個層級,所以決定他們將不會在新的一年續約。
(感謝SonAkali協助翻譯)
Curse, with a European squad that has gone through a variety of roster changes
lately, reportedly made a very strong offer to the former CLG team. The offer
had the potential to yield more money through their own additional personal
sponsorships, an opportunity not attainable through Evil Geniuses. Although
Curse had on paper the better financial offer and a multiple large team houses
to boot, Ellis felt there was too much of a reality TV atmosphere surrounding
the team.
Curse的歐洲陣容最近有過好幾次變動,情報指出他們曾向前CLG.EU提出一個非常有力
的報價。這項報價有提供個人的額外贊助,能有更多潛在收入,而這是EG無法提供的。
雖然Curse提供的報價提供更高的收入,也有複數的Game House可以入駐,Ellis覺得
實境電視的環境對於隊伍來說負擔太大了。
There were also said to be obligations from Curse of roughly double the number
of hours they would have to stream compared to Evil Geniuses. Not only was this
a large factor to the team for both fatigue and practice reasons, the team was
said to have much preferred streaming on Twitch.tv rather than Own3d.tv, Evil
Geniuses and Curse’s streaming partners, respectively. As of a report two days
ago, Own3d.tv may be shutting down in less than a week. Talks with Curse slowed
down after this.
也有情報指出Curse提供的合約裡面條款有要求實況時間是EG要求的兩倍。這對隊伍來
說不只是疲勞,同時也會造成練習上的問題,另外隊伍比起在Own3d.tv上,更偏好在
Twitch.tv上開實況,而前者是Curse的實況合作對象,後者則是EG的合作對象,雖然根
據這兩天的情報指出Own3d.tv將會在一週內關閉。而和Curse的談判則在這些原因之下
慢了下來。
Negotiations came down to Evil Geniuses and the teams’ personal aspirations of
building an empire themselves. Worldwide fan favorites CLG and Team SoloMid
were born this way, and just less than two weeks ago, their European rivals
Alexey "Alex Ich" Ichetovkin and company left Moscow 5 to start their own
journey in Gambit Gaming. Ellis was not fond of traditional eSports
organizations, going through a rough four-month stint himself with SK Gaming
under Captain Carlos "ocelote" Rodríguez at the end of 2011, seeing himself
and Peterson leave for CLG Europe for the start of 2012.
和EG之間的談判來到關於個人抱負以及建立一個屬於他們的王朝。全世界喜愛CLG和TSM
的支持者們都是這樣來的。而在不到兩週前,他們的歐洲競爭對手Alex Ich和他的隊伍
離開了Moscow 5並且在Gambit Gaming開始他們的新旅程。Ellis本人不太喜歡傳統的電
競組織,他2011年底在SK Gaming待了大約四個月,受到隊長ocelote的限制,然後和
Wickd在2012年初離開並加入CLG.EU。
Ellis had his own reservations against Evil Geniuses as well, with the team’s
StarCraft II players Greg “IdrA” Fields and Geoff “iNcontroL” Robinson
having unkind things to say about League of Legends. Last December, Garfield
spoke to PCGamesN at the fifth IGN ProLeague event in Las Vegas, unsure of what
the future may hold for EG in League of Legends. “Obviously, the numbers are
impressive, and the passion of the community is impressive,” Garfield said. “
I think the challenge for me is just to find the right brand representatives
for EG. So I’ve been perfectly happy to wait and sit on the sidelines and let
some of those guys grow up a little bit.”
Ellis同樣對EG有些成見,因為EG旗下的SC2選手IdrA和iNcontroL都曾對LoL說過壞話。
去年12月Garfield在IPL5對PCGamesN提到他並不確定EG會不會跨足LoL。「明顯的,這
遊戲的社群的人數和熱情都讓人印象深刻,我認為對我來說,挑戰在於要找到一些正確
的人們來代表EG出戰。所以我現在可以很開心的待在旁邊然後看著這些人們再成長一些
。」
Garfield said this, and at the same time knew this five-nation squad of five
was the brand he was looking for. Garfield was said to have looked for two
years for the right players to represent his brand in League of Legends, but
was unsuccessful in his search until now. Even with Riot’s Season 3 of the
League Championship Series on deck with multi-million dollar prize pools and
worldwide exposure, this was not reason enough to sign a team before the season
starts. It was this team or no team for Evil Geniuses.
Garfield這麼說,然後在同時他也知道了這個五個人來自五個國家的隊伍正是他在找的
。Garfield花了兩年在找玩家代表他的EG參戰LoL,但一直以來他的尋找都落空,直到
現在。即使Riot的S3冠軍賽即將開始,有著合計數百萬的獎金以及全球性的曝光率,這
對他來說也不足以構成原因讓他要在S3開始前簽下隊伍。對他來說,要嘛由這隻隊伍來
代表EG,要嘛就不會有任何隊伍代表EG參戰LoL。
Garfield came to Ellis again at the MLG Winter Championships in Dallas, Texas,
bringing a PowerPoint presentation with him for his whole team. Things went
well, but both parties were still skeptical. Ellis and the team still wanted to
try things out themselves, and Garfield was having last-minute reservations
regarding Riot’s plans for Season 3. The two met for the final time at IPL5 in
Las Vegas, with both parties coming out of talks with their concerns addressed.
Looking two, three years ahead was very important to the team, albeit only
signing a one-year deal. The meeting helped Ellis realize it would be too
difficult to run things themselves, and they would have a better opportunity to
fulfill their goals with the organization.
Garfield在達拉斯舉辦的MLG冬季冠軍賽再次找上Ellis,帶來了一份關於他和他的整個
隊伍的投影片簡介。一切事情都順利,但雙方都仍然抱持著疑問。Ellis和他的隊伍依然
希望可以有更多的測試機會,但Garfield考慮到Riot的S3計畫,定下了最後期限。雙方
在拉斯維加斯舉辦的IPL5進行了最後的會面,雙方都談了關於他們自己的考量。雖然對
隊伍來說看到兩三年以後的狀況很重要,他們依然選擇只簽下一年合約。這次的會面讓
Ellis了解到要靠他們自己來運轉各種事項實在太困難,而在EG這個組織下他們也會有更
好的機會來達成他們的目標。
Talks finalized the following two weeks after IPL5, with a verbal agreement set
in mid-December. Riot VP of eSports Dustin Beck helped alleviate concerns for
Garfield moving into Season 3. Ellis and the team are proud to be Evil Geniuses
’ first League of Legends team, and hope to bridge the gap between the other
professional gaming communities.
在IPL5結束後的兩週談判終於塵埃落定,在12月中他們達成了口頭協議。Riot電競部門
副總裁Dustin Beck也幫忙緩和了Garfield對S3的不安。Ellis和他的隊伍很驕傲能夠成
為EG的第一支LoL戰隊,並且希望可以成為和其他職業電競社群間的橋樑。
The new Evil Geniuses League of Legends roster will play their first games
under EG blue at the start of the Season 3 League Championships in Europe.
新的EG LoL戰隊將會在歐洲S3冠軍賽首次作為EG隊伍亮相。
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這篇有點艱澀,翻起來不太通順,
看的辛苦還請見諒。
如果哪裡有翻譯錯誤還請不吝指正。
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推 SINXIII :最高薪....不知道有沒有明確的數字0..0 01/26 23:56
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推 SonAkali :venture capital可以翻創投基金而不是冒險性投資 01/26 23:58
感謝,這方面我沒什麼概念只能逐字翻QQ
推 smaelllong :推翻譯! 01/26 23:59
推 imymeyou :推翻譯 01/26 23:59
→ Homeparty :CLG沒有請教練..也沒有人照行程表練習,之前DL還說過 01/26 23:59
→ Homeparty :曾經到歐洲去比賽結果沒準備電腦,有兩個禮拜沒有電腦 01/27 00:00
推 BnLou :Snoopeh!! 01/27 00:00
推 z83420123 :世界最高薪的LoL隊伍 不愧是EG~ 01/27 00:00
推 mygarysm :CLG跟其它公司比起來的確比較像小型家族企業啦... 01/27 00:01
推 JiangWuYang :這也沒啥表的啦.. CLG的規模根本不能跟EG比阿 01/27 00:02
推 SonAkali :歐歐其實沒有基金 翻創業投資才對SRY 01/27 00:03
Thanks anyway
推 z83420123 :Own3d.tv將會在一週內關閉 這真假!? 01/27 00:03
本版
#1H0NQQBV
推 TheMidnight :去EG健身嗎 = =.... 01/27 00:03
推 iamnodoubt :Garfield真的很利害,超年輕,學歷又好 01/27 00:03
推 loloveit :推翻譯好辛苦! 01/27 00:03
→ z83420123 :Ellis是誰啊? 01/27 00:03
Stephen "Snoopeh" Ellis。
為了翻譯流暢所以我前面沒有特別加註他的本名,Sorry
→ loloveit :是 Snoopeh 01/27 00:03
推 rantea7m :推翻譯辛苦了!!!! 01/27 00:04
推 z83420123 :話說EG不也算是傳統的電競組織嗎XDDD 01/27 00:05
我翻譯起來的感覺是,Snoopeh雖然不喜歡這種傳統電競組織
但是考量到自己成立新隊伍的困難度太大,所以最後還是妥協了
這是我的感覺啦,給你做參考
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推 rhox :應該是不止80k....以歐洲的平均薪水來算的話 01/27 00:06
推 linceass :Snoopeh真的很用心啊 01/27 00:07
推 choosin :也沒什麼婊CLG 感覺不是在講教練這種事 而是金主規模 01/27 00:07
推 gn01172011 :看了文章半天 以為是經紀人 看推文才原來是史努比XDD 01/27 00:07
好像造成不少人困擾 我修改一下好了
推 SonAkali :好想知道薪水 01/27 00:09
推 lpca :Akamai好像在GPL也不見了? 01/27 00:09
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推 z83420123 :法蟲月薪1萬美 HUK年薪10萬美 不知道他們多少 01/27 00:10
→ linsu :比 這沒什麼好表的 01/27 00:10
→ lpca :看到文章後半段 才知道Ellis指的是EU的隊員XD 01/27 00:10
改過了,看一下這樣會不會比較好了解吧:/
→ SonAkali :一萬美...好多= = 01/27 00:10
※ 編輯: kaneggyy 來自: 114.38.85.189 (01/27 00:13)
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