Re: [外絮] mous enVision與aAa Linak禁賽一年

[kaneggyy (負けないで！)]

※ 引述《silveriii (多說無益)》之銘言：
: LoL官網原文
: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1011754
: Reddit討論串
: http://0rz.tw/i2KJC
這件事情小弟稍微跟了一下
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超簡單結論：
目前Reddit上言論主要分兩派
1.這些王八蛋該被ban，你們要找混蛋同隊本來就要有心理準備
2.這些王八蛋該被ban，但這時候宣布不公平
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以下本文

再最一開始的Reddit討論串
http://tinyurl.com/bzlkd6q
有人轉貼了mouz YoungBuck的FB上寫的文章（內文小弟有翻譯，詳見#1G-jUOTh）

這串裡面Wickd和Krepo都有回文
[–]Wickd 529 分/分 1 天 ago
I think that if a Summoners behaviour is so bad that he gets a permanent ban
it's deserved. I don't feel sorry for him at all and you guys should have
known that it could happen. Everyone in high elo knows that he was constantly
flaming and ruining games.

[–]Krepo 232 分/分 1 天 ago
My condolences to the Mouz team but this is a very well deserved ban.

總之Wickd和Krepo兩個人都認為：這傢伙被ban了活該_A_

關於這次LoL官網上公布aAa Linak和mouz enVision被ban的事
Wickd有在他本人的FB上面提出他的意見
https://www.facebook.com/LoLWickd/posts/407964012620440
A few days ago we discussed about if Mouz's Jungler Envision/ShookL2 truly
deserved a permanent ban and to not be alowed participation in LCS with only
a 4 days warning. I personally thought it was fair because the other 4
players from Mouz should have known how toxic of a player ShookL2 is and that
it was something which could happen. Riot have released information about it
and I would like to hear you guys opinions once more.

簡譯：我個人認為這很公平，因為mouz的其他四個人應該知道ShookL2(aka EnVision)
是個多爛的玩家，他們應該要設想到這樣（被ban）的可能性。

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不過，aAa Linak的前隊友Fnatic sOAZ有不同的想法
https://www.facebook.com/fnaticSOAZ/posts/414086935342738
i didnt talked to linak but i guess what he said is true, bans strikes again,
thats really really not pro from riot.

sOAZ認為Riot這樣的動作並不好，並且貼了一個Reddit討論串的連結

http://tinyurl.com/a4r3plp
Why i boycott Riot about Linak and Envision ban

這串文章的原po認為Linak和EnVision都該ban，但是要ban的話要嘛早一點，線上資格
賽一打完就ban要嘛，讓隊伍有時間找人，或晚一點，等最後的S3資格賽打完再ban。在
比賽前四天ban並不好。原文提到了aAa輔助對於這次禁賽的感想：
Karalius, aAa support, about this ban : "Come together to Paris with team,
travel for ~15 hours to get there. We get scrims, practice, everything is
going well. We lose a few games, go watch the replay on big TV in next room,
discussed a lot, learned a lot, you know by every definiton bootcamp is going
very good. Mid-way through the replay, we hear that riot just posted that
Linak was banned from s3."
Riot said this might happen a week ago, but then they kept saying "we will
make descision tomorrow" that never happened, we eventually went to bootcamp
and now it happened. No idea what we will do, sickening bs"

簡單的說就是aAa在gamehouse團練，一切順利，之前Riot有跟他們說Linak可能會被
ban，他們一直向Riot問結果，Riot每天都跟他們說明天會決定，所以他們繼續跟Linak
團練下去，然後Liank就被ban了。

aAa ShLaYa也有回應這串：
[–]ShLaYa 27 分/分 10 小时 ago
Hi i'm ShLaYa from aAa and I agree with this post. We KNEW there is a chance
that Linak get ban for S3 he knew it but he asked many times directly at
RIOT'ers if he had to stop playing with us but he had no answer. It was
delayed then we go together in bootcamp at paris to make our dreams come true
and that happens..

他們知道Linak可能會被ban，所以他們直接問了Riot好幾次他們到底要不要ban，都
沒答案，然後現在才說Linak要被ban。
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值得一提的是目前看到的評論中，基本上沒人反對這兩個人被ban（做人到底多差勁可以
到這樣阿XD）
有意見的都是Riot宣布ban掉這兩個人的時間點。
同樣被ban的d IWillDominate即使不算上Dig已經自動晉級，宣布的時間點也早很多，
在那個時間點宣布哪些玩家被ban的話這兩支隊伍應該都有時間找人替補。

至於Riot這樣做好不好，就見仁見智了吧:P
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巧合的是，被ban的IWD、Linak和EnVision.......都是打野玩家。

看來Riot也略懂打不贏先怪打野（誤很大）

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推 z83420123   :IWD是TOP
IWD是打野，他被ban了之後Crumbzz回打野位，dig再找新上路
Crumbzz在加入Dig之前，在Curse就是打野，靠打野打到rank第一過
推 ZERORICH    :結論有點中肯www
推 vergilmir   :如過是這樣riot真的ban錯時間點了 人家都早早問了
推 a127        :是為什麼當打野可以惹一場遊戲有一半的玩家在檢舉
→ a127        :打野不是跟SUP一樣都超卑微的嗎
推 swbthj      :因為打JG最容易被檢舉(?)所以最會被BAN是嘛
推 silveriii   :打野怪不用撿尾刀 手很閒拿來打字嘴砲正適合
推 Ghosso      :真的時間點還滿爭議的
→ linceass    :100場被檢舉400次 人品有問題啊
推 myran       :能夠每場都被三四個人檢舉這到底是怎麼做到的阿
推 ilris       :都同意被ban但這時間真的很..XDDDDDDDD
→ ilris       :前0.06%真的很……XDDDDDDDDDDDD
推 sarserror   :IWD明明是JG= =
※ 編輯: kaneggyy        來自: 114.41.108.29        (01/21 19:29)
→ keepoo      :每場平均4人檢舉...嘴太大吧
推 silveriii   :aAa manager的回應 (reddit) http://0rz.tw/BtuVI
→ kaneggyy    :超酸耶...還順便酸ocelote XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
推 amALu       :現在才發現連linak也被ban= =
→ howshine    :反正被BAN沒人反對，有疑義的是宣布的時間點
推 SuperSg     :sup至少有個ad能跟、jg從頭到尾都獨自一人孤單寂寞
推 eternalwrath:wickd 和 krepo 被戳過  很生氣 XDDD