[外絮] Cyanide談LCS隊伍在IEM的淘汰

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本文來自FnaticRC Cyanide FB

A lot of people have been asking me that why is it that three out of four LCS
teams dropped out in groupstage. Just to make it clear, I'm not trying to make
excuses for anybody here but just presenting my honest opinion.
很多人在問我為什麼四支LCS隊伍中有三支在小組賽就淘汰了。我先說，我這不是
在找藉口，我只是談談我的想法。

I think one of the main reasons is that there is so much material of the LCS
teams unlike other teams. It's so much easier to study an LCS team than any
other team. We literally had almost no idea what the other teams play (I agree
we could have studied them more though) going into the groupstage and meanwhile
they knew all our tricks.
我認為主要原因之一是因為研究LCS隊伍的材料太多了。比起研究其他隊伍，研究
LCS隊伍要簡單的多。我們在幾乎對於別隊怎麼打的沒概念的狀況下（雖然我們其
實可以研究的更多一點）去打小組賽，而同時其他人早就知道我們有什麼花樣了。

Another thing is BO1:s. Anything can happen. I think on a normal day atleast
2/4 or even 3/4 of the LCS teams should have made it out of the groups. Some of
the games played were very close and could have gone either way (for us and
others, even Gambit was close to losing multiple times).
另一個原因是BO1。任何事情都可能發生。我相信如果正常狀況下，LCS隊伍應該
四隊中該有兩隊甚至三隊可以小組晉級。有好幾場的情勢都非常接近，誰贏都不
奇怪（包括我們和其他隊，甚至Gambit也有幾場是有可能輸掉的）。

Gambit also is the team that masters studying opponents and understands the
metagame the best of all European teams which is the key why they are always
beating foreign teams (I admit though that they are the best team in Europe
right now).
Gambit是一支非常擅長研究其他隊伍而且是在歐洲隊伍中最了解遊戲Meta的隊伍
，這也是他們總是能擊敗外國隊伍的原因。（我也承認他們是現在歐洲最好的隊
伍。）

Also we have to consider that at least us and EG were not giving out our best
performances lately, if the finals were held 2 weeks later or 2 weeks earlier
the entire tournament would look totally different.
同時我們也知道，至少我們和EG最近都沒打出最佳狀態，如果IEM總決賽是兩週前
或兩週後打，可能整個都不同了

And as mentioned before, just my 2 cents :P
就像之前提的，只是我的想法:P

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