[閒聊] forst CloudTemplar對clg na的建議

[ccler (我是很萌Saber的)]

From Reddit的三手 簡單翻譯(完整翻譯等人認領吧)

http://0rz.tw/NyPVN

im just writing down wut my korean friend and my half-ass korean skill
understood.

on the ongame.net stream, apparently cloudtemplar was the caster for a few
games and said / expressed the following:

這是他在ongame.net上實況 大家的問題 簡單整理

-(on doublelift saying practicing 10hrs doesn't work for us) as soon as i
heard it, i knew they were gonna get dq'd so fast. this is not the right
mentality for professional gamers. you have to work on basics and teamwork by
constantly playing as 5, even if you like it or not. that is the only way.

(DL說他們練習不超過10hr) 當我聽到這個,我就知道他們很快失格了,這不是一個職業選
手該有的心態,必須5人一同練習基本功,團隊默契,不論你是否喜歡練習,這是唯一的路

-my team and clg na share the same hotel and they all brought their
girlfriends with them. and i thought 'if i lose to a team that is hanging out
with their gfs, wut am i gonna do in real life?' They all have cute
girlfriends and we don't have any gfs, so we knew we had to win the game
(/sad face).

我們跟clg na住同一個飯店,他們每個人都帶著女友,假如他們輸了,他們還能握著女友的
手,但是我們一無所有..
他們有著可愛的女友,我們一個都沒有,所以我知道我們一定要贏(沮喪的臉)

-clg na says they are the best, but you can tell by their facial expressions
that even they don't think it is true. they are living in the past. they were
the best top players in the world 1 yr ago, but not anymore. it seems like
they are just trying to think about their past, rather than their future. and
it makes me sad cuz i like them.

clg na說他們是最好的,但是那已經是過去了

-clg eu always gets upset about their mistakes / loss, but i think clg na
doesn't. they just brush it off like it's nothing. and i think that is what
is stopping them from improving unlike clg eu; they will always improve.

clg eu會為了一些失誤/輸掉比賽而懊惱,而我知道clg na不會 他們只是爭吵

& some other things that are not related to clg.na
-clg.eu has their own solid style and that is why they can give up so many
good champs to the other team, but still take over the game. if someone can
beat clg.eu's rock solid late game, then i can confidently say that team can
beat everyone else.

clg eu有紮實的基本功在許多英雄上比其他隊,如果有一個隊伍在後期打敗clgeu,我確性
他們能打敗所有人

-(to a question 'who is the one to look out for from TSM?') i'm looking
forward to tomorrow's match against theoddone. i think he is very up there in
terms of jungler tier and it will be interesting.

(有人問明天對TSM該注意誰) 該注意theoddone,

that is pretty much it. again, this is cloudtemplar's opinion, not mine.
tldr; i believed in s2secretsgg, but it let me down :(
edit: just to clarify something. cloudtemplar didn't say this to diss or
disrespect clg na. according to cloudtemplar, they are very good friends.
seems like this is getting quite a view, i'll add some more stuffs.

-(picks&bans of clg eu vs sword - related to my 5th point talking abt good
champs) ezreal is the top ad carry, sona is the top support, maokai is one of
the well rounded junglers, ori's utility is one of the best. only clg eu can
afford giving ez and sona combo to the other team

(對clg eu vs sword b/p的看法) ez是最好的AD , sona是最好的sup,茂凱也是很全面的
jungler,ori的大決很好 只有clg eu有能力抵抗ez跟sona的combo

-(maknoon's nidalee killing froggen's karthus mid) i hate maknoon's nid cuz
he is everywhere on the map. he is in the jungle, he is in mid, in bot, and
in top. you can't predict where he is and that playstyle is just too tough to
deal with. froggen is probably saying 'wtf he was bot with no red buff, and
now he just killed me in mid lane with red?'

(對maknoon的奶大力殺掉佛跟死哥的看法) 我討厭maknoon的奶大力,因為他隨時會出現在
地圖上任何地方,他是jungler,是中路,是bot,也是top,你完全無法預測
我猜佛跟可能說:三小,他剛剛在下路沒有red buff,現在馬上來中路殺我還有red buff ?

-(during clg eu vs. sword) clg eu always goes for the late game. they often
dont win their lanes, but they dont fall too far behind either. sure, they
will give 1 or 2 kills, but not more than that. they just make up for that by
staying tight til the late game.

(clg eu vs sword比賽中) clg eu總是想把遊戲帶往後期,他們通常無法win lanes,但是
並不會落後太多,他們拿1~2個頭,來彌補lose lane這點..

-(as he was taking off after clg.eu vs sword) we still have to fully analyze
tsm for tomorrow. we got a few replays we have to watch again. we got some
work to do.

(clg eu vs sword結束後) 我們會好好分析tsm,我們已經準備好許多rp準備做功課

-fun fact: 3 korean guys casted on the ongame.net stream for 13.5 hrs today
without subbing out. they didn't switch like phreak,riv, deman and jatt. HOLY
SHHHHHH. TALKING ABT DEDICATION

3個韓國人主播撐了13.5hr從沒換過人?! holyshit韓國人OP


這討論串蠻紅的 美國鄉民也懂釣魚?

鄉民A:CLG na真的活在過去
鄉民B:早就說不期不待了,過去兩三個禮拜他們只在soloq stream
鄉民C:Voyboy有女友?
鄉民D: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A11a0Q3CIAAMiqH.jpg:large (眾鄉民崩潰)
鄉民E:Voyboy交女友後從沒贏過線了..

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推 ckai1983    :說不定CLG前一晚打砲打得很累
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推 gigaga5566  :贏了有錢有名聲 大概就會有馬啦~
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推 cccman      :女朋友OP
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推 war0tft     :第二段說得很不錯阿~ 情侶在捷運放閃都快受不了
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推 et310       :第二段正解,其他什麼都是假的
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推 chinhan1216 :練習量輸就輸 講啥帶女朋友去參加比賽感覺就是在忌妒
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推 chinhan1216 :M5練習時間大概都多久?
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→ combo999    :投了TSM，感覺好後悔，不知道北美這麼爛
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→ petersos80  :希望阿萬能打我臉Q Q
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推 BryceHarper :北美前三，二、三跟第一名差距很大吧-_-
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推 picklecak   :http://ppt.cc/sd2E
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推 Hylun       :alex強又帥又有正妹老婆
推 sawaman     :第2段笑死我了XDDD怨念超深
→ sawaman     :『他們輸了還有女朋友，但是我們輸了什麼也沒有』囧
推 sillymon    :ALEX:我輸了還有老婆
推 odin1206    :有種淡淡的哀傷....
推 ZkNight     :沒有妳贏了世界又如何
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推 satan317    :贏了比賽輸了人生lol
推 yofong      :ALEX是人生勝利組 哈哈
推 kullan      :酸到CLGNA無地自容
推 TheBeast    :有看NA打IG那場就知道...初期的招牌下路輸成那樣..
→ TheBeast    :下路都輸了 NA就沒搞頭了  打爆是剛好而已
→ TWemperor   :DL自負成這樣被打臉了 韓國隊練習每天都16小時上下
→ TWemperor   :CLG不到10小時 用腦袋想也知道誰贏誰輸
→ TWemperor   :EU差不多12小時 結果也是輸 只能第二晉級 看M5了!!
推 kylecheng   :女朋友那段感覺好悽涼...
※ 編輯: ccler           來自: 140.124.42.124       (10/05 18:26)
噓 johnnyjaiu  :怒噓NA大嫂團 泡菜原來是真男人 (血淚)
推 johnnyjaiu  :推回來有老婆又超強的M5隊長Alex才是真．人生勝利組
推 BryceHarper :其實有點想看M5被打歪...
推 YomiIsayama :期待看M5大戰泡菜
推 b0865cba    :NA可以回家推塔摟!
推 ManInBlack  :而我知道clg na不會 他們只是爭吵<-----???
→ ccler       :翻譯看下篇吧 隨手翻翻而已
推 ndbs        :第三段我覺得好好笑