[外絮] CLG Dexter interview

[epephanylo (Sinchin)]

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Articles:CLG_Dexter_Uncut
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1)You talked about the Copenhagen Wolves, but they were not your
only opponents when you were with DragonBorns. You had Gambit Ga
ming and Fnatic as well. You went up against three junglers that
were considered to be pretty good back then, and are still doing
well: Svenskeren, Diamondprox, and Cyanide. What did you think of
them back then, and what do you think of them now?

A) When I first started playing, everyone was praising Diamondprox
at that point. 「He's so good, he's the best jungler in the world
」. Korea was not really developed that much, at that point. I ha
ve to agree, I looked up to Diamondprox a lot when I first started
out in the competitive environment, because it was also the time
when he dominated with Lee Sin. I was impressed by his mechanics.
At the same time, when I got better and better, I realized that he
was a player as well – he's beatable. I was starting to play with
other people. I played soloqueue a lot, with or against him. You
slowly start to realize that those players are really good, but not
unbeatable.

At that time, I think Svenskeren was good with CW as well. He did a
good job in the jungle. As far as Cyanide, he has the main problem
of being inconsistent. I think he's one of the most inconsistent ju
nglers, with the highest peaks of any jungle player. On his game,
he's unbeatable. You saw it at Worlds, he even said it somewhere, th
at he didn't play any better games than the ones at Worlds. It's a r
eally good thing to have, but at the same time it can cause you some
troubles. I think he's still a good player, but being that inconsist
ent as a jungler is something only Fnatic can compensate for. I don't
think any other team in Europe could compensate for the inconsistency
of the jungler. He's still really good, but Fnatic has amazing players
on every role, so it doesn't really matter that he's inconsistent one
time, and has a really good game the other time.

I think consistency is the biggest value you can have on your jungler
. That's why Diamondprox is considered to be one of the best. He never
has an off game pretty much, he always plays well.

2)Meanwhile, you also played with Shushei. He came off of Season 1 World
Championship, then went out of Fnatic. Can you talk about him as a teamm
ate?

A)I don't know if there's much to say about him. He already hit the point
in his career in S1WC when he was shining. Throughout season 2, he didn't
make any progress as a player. He got moved into the top lane, didn't perf
orm that well, then got kicked out of Fnatic. Then, he decided to go with DB.

He always was the guy who would play the most random picks ever. He was the
one who brought Evelynn mid. He wanted to play Fiddlesticks mid. When I pla
yed with him, he was like 「Okay, we're playing Gambit. Let Alex Ich pick
Zed, and I will counter him with  Udyr.」 He picked those picks nobody heard
of. His teammates were 「Okay, it's Shushei. Just let him do his thing. He
will play better than if you force him on a pick. Just let him play Udyr, it
will be fine.」 He's a good guy, but I do not think he's a good player anymo
re.

3) you also had another teammate. I heard along the grapevine that you made
him look better. Can you talk about the dynamic between you and Nukeduck ba
ck then, and how it is now that NiP is out of the LCS?

A) The reason why Lemondogs were so successful was because we were really
far ahead of the meta at that point. If you ask teams about it, everyone
will tell you the same: We [Lemondogs] were the first one to play assassi
ns mid. We were the first ones to do the 「camp mid」 meta. It worked out
to be the meta, that camping midlane and playing assassins is the most ef
fective way to win the game. When Nukeduck played Fizz, Zed, and all of
those champions that relied on one kill to win the game alone, I was camp
ing mid.

The way I jungled in Lemondogs was 「All for midlane's sake.」 I had the
best synergy with Zorozero. But, there was no point in ganking top. He was
so good in lane, there was no point to go there to hold the lane or get a
kill. He was like 「Okay, Dexter, come top. We have a kill here, right now
.」 30 seconds later, I go there, we get a kill, 100% of the time. There w
as no downside to it.

We played the solo and duo lanes really well. We never lost them. We always
got kills on the duo lane with me playing  Jarvan IV. Zoro and I had better
synergy than any other player. Still, I managed to go mid and camp Nukeduck
's lane. He called me midlane to shove the wave, we denied the enemy midlan
er a lot of waves just pushing it up and hitting the tower 1on2, forcing the
enemy jungler to come to us. Basically what I did was jumping from wolves to
wraiths and always having his back while he 1on1'd the enemy midlaner.

It took a long, long, long time for people to adapt to it. No one realized
that I only camped midlane when we played assassins. I think that's the re
ason why we [Nukeduck and I] looked good, we had lane control and jungle p
ressure. He's not as good on champions like Gragas and  Orianna, mage-type
champions, and he even admitted it. He's a really good assassin player, but
he doesn't play as well on other champions.

In the NiP qualifiers, he had Amumu in the jungle, a really passive pick in
my opinion. He had Orianna, a really passive pick as well. They would just
go for lategame. Amumu didn't gank until minute 20, and he just took every
blue. Nukeduck just farmed mid, and he used his first ultimate without hitt
ing anything. I was like 「Okay, this is not looking good for NiP.」

I was a factor in him being recognized as one of the best midlaners in Euro
pe, you can't play assassins without jungle pressure. Jungle is always good
when the team does good as well. When mid does extremely well, the jungle l
ooks good as well. It goes both ways. It's like Alex Ich and Diamondprox, t
hose are two amazing players: they can always rely on each other. When we p
layed in Lemondogs, I carried his early laning phase when he would pick a 1
9 Armor Penetration runepage. We won the game by one gank, he would snowbal
l the game for us.

4) Before going to the Season 3 World Championship, you guys hired nRated.
He was fresh off of a 4th-place finish with Evil Geniuses. What did his co
ntributions consist of in Lemondogs?

A) I don't think nRated was helping a lot in the team, as we had other pro
blems at that point in time. He didn't help us for anything we lacked in t
eam play. He was there for individual mistakes, or coaching us what we can
do better. In reality, our problem was midgame rotations. At that point, no
one knew what to do, how to rotate properly, and he couldn't help us with
that either.

He helped a bit in the laning phase, and in the early game. In the end, the
problems we had could not be fixed by an analyst, and that is why we could
n't manage to go past the group stage.

5) One of the teams you faced in the S3WC had a similar synergy in the mid/
jungle that Lemondogs had. Can you talk about your encounters with Team Sol
oMid at Worlds, and what you think TSM will look like when you join CLG in
the NA LCS, with Bjergsen?

A) We played two games against TSM. In the first game, I'm really being hon
est: we did not take them seriously. We were like 「We pick whatever, and w
e'll win,」 then we got completely outpicked. Mid got crushed by  Vi camp;
she was 0/2, lv3, I was lv5, and all of a sudden she got fed off of mid lan
e. At level 6, Vi camped mid over and over again. It was misplayed by Nuked
uck as well, I think. They killed mid over and over, and they had Zed there.

We outpicked ourselves. At one point, we were ahead. I was 2-0, got two gan
ks on Dyrus. It was going well, but it didn't matter how good we did early
game. The comp we picked was like 「We can pick whatever we want.」 We didn
't take any meeting before the game. Nukeduck wanted him (Reginald) to play
Zed and went 「Okay, I can counter him with  Ahri.」 That's why we lost the
first game.

On the second game, we were seriously thinking of, like, 「We need this win
.」 We made a gameplan, and we executed it properly. We won the game pretty
convincingly. I don't think the synergy between Reginald and TheOddOne was
that good in Worlds; you can't really tell if the synergy was good if you h
ave both Vi and Zed pressing R on a target. They didn't really counterjungl
e together, and they didn't have a really good vision control around midlan
e. That's what synergy is.

If you watched Bengi and Faker, [they had] perfect execution throughout the
whole tournament: perfect vision control over the whole jungle, and that's
how you're supposed to play with them. Reginald was good at calling TheOddO
ne and doing plays with aggressive champions, but I don't think synergy was
impressive from both of them. Bengi and Faker had by far the best midlane/j
ungle synergy, and that is why they won the whole tournament. They had two
amazing players, both [considered as] the best in their role right now.

6) Going forward, how do you approach LoL progaming? Gameplay-wise, evol
ution of the jungle, and as a person?

A) I approach the game by being smart and overthinking things. I really
like to have my own opinion about things and I watch every region playi
ng. I take notes from other players, see what I can do myself and impro
ve as a player, while also practicing my mechanics. It's a really hard
thing as a jungler: You have a lot of decision-making to do, and you ha
ve to keep your mechanics up somehow. If you just play jungle all day,
you won't get amazing mechanics. I practice mid as much as possible in
soloqueue to get mechanics down, and practice them more efficiently tha
n a jungler, while also working on my decision-making in premades.

It's really really hard to get good at both mechanics and decision-maki
ng. For example, Bengi. He's not an amazing player mechanically, he has
a standard level. However, his decision-making is so good, he outshines
everyone. Then you have insanely mechanical players, like inSec. InSec
was a highly mechanically-skilled player, his  Lee Sin was regarded as
the best. Or DanDy. But those players weren't very smart about decision
-making.

The last game inSec played as a competitive jungler, he really lost the
game by poor decision-making, and I'm not the only one who said this. He
made up for this with amazing mechanics, so that he could afford not bei
ng extremely good decision-wise.

I want to find a balance between being good at decision-making and mecha
nics, so that I can afford to be the most consistent jungler in my region.

7) What would you say to Riot's developers, as far as the cycle of nerfs
and buffs, and rebalancing competitive picks?

A) It's more like: some champions should be in the spotlight, then you ha
ve small buffs to other champions, such as  Ziggs. Ziggs was in a really
bad spot. Then, he got buffed, and no one cared. Then he got buffed again
, and no one cared as well. After five of six buffs, people started to re
alize he was a really good pick.

At the same time, other picks got nerfed, like  Zed. Zed would have destr
oyed Ziggs in lane, and you wouldn't be able to do anything against it. N
ow that Zed has been nerfed and turned into a situational pick (not 100%
picked or banned anymore), Ziggs has a lot of the spotlight.

It's the same for other champions. Take  Olaf for instance. As a jungler,
he didn't have the spotlight for months, then Riot tweaked him. Now, he's
a really good jungler. I expect Riot to balance the game in a way to keep
it fresh, but some champions should be given quality of life changes to ma
ke them more viable. It happened to  Pantheon, with the W to minions. You
can't have a game where there are 100 champions that are not worth picking.

I read something on Reddit, where someone referred to Magic: The Gathering
. He was like: 「You have 1.5k cards, just pick the best out of them,」 an
d people started to take only 500. Those 500 were taken to the best player
s, and those players used about 200 of them. It's shrinking the pool. It's
the same in League of Legends. Right now, in competitive LoL, you just pic
k the best champions possible. If you want to pick Shyvana top, she outshi
nes everything there. Same for  Elise in the jungle, she doesn't have any
weaknesses, 90% pick/ban ratio across the regions.
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