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http://tinyurl.com/ofls22c 1.這是一篇REDDIT的文,作者相當的用心去統計資料來幫甘蔗護航。 2.GMB現在掉到第五名去了,希望這周能奮起,至少至少要進季後賽呀。 3.愛睏中,徵求翻譯官 XDDDDDDDDDDD THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST IS TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW GENJA PLAYS AND WHY HIS PLAY STYLE IS SO GOOD FOR THE ENTIRE GAMBIT TEAM. I will try to give you as much information on Genja and why he is suitable for Gambit, other than the fact that they've been playing together for more than 1,5 year. With the recent roster changes of Gambit people might consider the fact that Genja is the real problem on Gambit. First take a look at these stats (Requires Gmail): http://tinyurl.com/k44uzdf Genja is not the Doublelift type of AD. Genja's style of play is not to sit on a lane and farm like most ADs. People might think that, but his style is to be the "supportive" type. His total gold earned, CS and KDA will show exactly how he can manage to participate in everything Gambit does as a team, while keeping a decent CS and KDA. He is often on second place after Alex Ich when it comes to total gold, if not on a third place after Darien. Genja is not the big "playmaker" like Doublelift. You've probably seen all the montages of Doublelift making huge plays, but let's not forget the fact that, Doublelift makes plays because he ends up in bad situations/positions, so he is FORCED to make a play to get into a better position. Genja on the otherhand is a GOD when it comes to positioning in teamfights as AD. That's why you dont see him make "Doublelift-plays". Don't forget that fact that Gambit DOESN'T peel for Genja. Genja is always on his own in teamfights. The reason why Genja builds tear-builds is pretty simple. By looking at his champion picks, you'll figure out that he doesnt play AD to auto attack(IE. Caitlyn, Vayne, Twitch, Draven). His style is to use as many abilities as possible in teamfigts and be there as long as possible (Like keeping the slow on the enemy team when playing Varus/Ashe). Short said, he plays champions with strong ultimates/abilities. The tear on Ashe/Varus will give him a decent AD boost, while being cappable of spamming abilities in fights without going oom. That doesnt require a high IQ to figure out, it's simple thinking. The tear on Varus will bring a lot more of poke, since Genja sometimes level the Q ability first and poke the **** out of the enemy team. When looking at the stats you'll also figure out that he is quite good at keeping a good CS and KDA while his team is behind. His KDA stats shows that he has only been under a KDA of 1, ONCE in all 7 weeks. Genja is not the carry for Gambit. The carries are Alex Ich, Darien and Diamond. As mentioned earlier, his role is a "supportive AD", you might be able to compare him a little bit to Sneaky from C9. The farm doesnt go to him, he takes what a normal AD champion needs and NOTHING more than that. The 3 other carries will carry the early/mid game, and if the match turns into a 40+ min match, Genja will have the farm, to be able to do a lot since he simply is an AD. Anyways this was my opinion and how i look at Genja and his style. Feel free to ask any questions and you are 100% allowed to question some stuff here. Let's talk about this. You are welcome to ask me about my opinion on other stuff regarding Gambit/Genja/Edward and so on. --以下呆萌回應!!!!--------------------------------------------------------- Statement from Diamond: Topic starter, you are right about almost everything. thank you for trying to clarify the situation on our botlane and save our marksman from community's unfounded attacks. even though i have no idea, who are you ^ But Genja isn't passive on his lane "ALWAYS!", like some ppl could've think or even say. And he doesn't wait for team to carry him. He is aggressive when it's advantageous. And the aggression is advantageous only when it's safe and support playing good. For example: if his support playing very aggressive w/o most needed wards or vision of enemy jungler - he will only follow him if its the only chance to win the game, otherwise he is gonna betray this "goodplayer" and finally get his x2 exp on the lane. :) IMO he is one of the best world adc and deserves atleast respect from our fans, but, in any case, not hatred" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT1: Typos, sorry about my english. More information. EDIT2: The document should be open now. EDIT3: More information and thanks for frontpage! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.230.165.237
L0v35 :恩恩 08/08 00:59
Harute :強大的甘蔗粉 08/08 00:59
drinkair :原來如此~~ 08/08 01:00
andy532023 :原來是這樣啊 總算懂了 08/08 01:00
AceID :瞎密居然是這樣!!!! 這啥超展開阿!!!! 08/08 01:01
nick5487 :哦哦哦 原來原來 08/08 01:01
silveriii :賭AHQ輸光了來翻一下好惹 08/08 01:02
conference :翻譯幹嘛 只會被一堆英文積分3000 雞蛋挑骨頭 08/08 01:03
diablo81321 :這篇說到一個重點 DL的神Play因為他老是在1V9 08/08 01:03
leawweikeng :樓下I軟 08/08 01:03
ilris :epep軟>///////< 08/08 01:03
diablo81321 :但是甘蔗不需要1V9也不太容易讓GMB的人必須1V9 08/08 01:04
david3196 :這算表戰神嗎? 08/08 01:04
Archer99 :俄羅斯蔗皇 08/08 01:04
WarIII :這就是愛阿!! 08/08 01:05
justsay :簡譯:1.甘蔗是SUP型AD 2.不管風向都能保持中庸的經濟 08/08 01:05
jeffreyshe :水滴護航部分:甘蔗都玩技能型ad 丟技能for the win 08/08 01:05
justsay :3.愛出水滴是因為擅長用技能在團戰發揮影響力 08/08 01:06
justsay :4.他幾乎沒有亮眼的PLAY是因為走位跟觀念好 08/08 01:06
justsay :不向DL站位跟觀念差 導致要用亮眼的PLAY彌補錯誤 08/08 01:07
giddens123 :看到甘蔗有次玩法洛是 整場會戰打不到五下他還最後 08/08 01:07
justsay :5.重申1. 他是SUP型AD 所以GBG不用保他 08/08 01:07
giddens123 :死的(被ACE 08/08 01:07
conference :現在是只要不強的都叫SUP型就是了...SUP型AD SUP型JG 08/08 01:07
giddens123 :那場還出雙嗜血 真的不知道幹嘛這樣出 08/08 01:08
feryuusk :呆萌講的跟之前fb的好像 08/08 01:08
justsay :看到拿DL比較那段快笑死了XDD 真甘蔗粉原來是這樣看 08/08 01:08
Germany169 :JJ也出過雙嗜血阿XDD 08/08 01:09
longlyeagle :那你怎麼沒看到他會戰神冰箭或好運姊神大? 08/08 01:09
giddens123 :鑽石才是常常說1V9的人 甘蔗只是因為剛好沒大錯 08/08 01:09
jeffreyshe :然後這篇因為新sup跟diamond都有出來講話 08/08 01:09
peter0726 :甘蔗的法洛士都不太會普攻....這點丁皇倒是學得很像 08/08 01:09
jeffreyshe :下面大部分都是幫甘蔗護航的評論 lol 08/08 01:09
epephanylo :其實我是想說 不管是要護航還是HATE都拿點東西出來呀 08/08 01:09
longlyeagle :每個人都想CARRY搶經濟 最後就是20投 08/08 01:10
justsay :我不反甘蔗 只是拿DL救援實在有點詭異XD 08/08 01:10
WarIII :his role is a "supportive AD" =簡稱點塔機 08/08 01:10
Yanrei :因為少了一個Gosu啊……QQ 08/08 01:11
longlyeagle :他沒有救援的意思 他的意思是不要拿DL來比較 08/08 01:11
WarIII :但問題是點塔機是韓式速推才有必要的 打到中後還是要 08/08 01:11
Germany169 :呆萌回應:雖然我不認識原po但你說得非常正確,甘蔗 08/08 01:12
Germany169 :絕對不是被動的,他不是在等隊友carry,他要在有優勢 08/08 01:13
cianhao :ep軟推推 08/08 01:13
Germany169 :同時安全且sup玩得好的情況下侵略,如果不是他會放棄 08/08 01:13
ccode :簡單說就是穩紮穩打,表現看起來普通,是因為沒耍帥 08/08 01:14
jeffreyshe :其實我覺得diamond講的那段有點多餘 08/08 01:14
jeffreyshe :再被動的AD有明顯優勢都會侵略的.. 08/08 01:14
mikechick :出水滴的原因超好笑 那為啥不要下路出AP就好 08/08 01:14
Germany169 :sup,龜在線上拿兩倍的經驗值,除非打這波是贏的唯一 08/08 01:15
Germany169 :方法。總而言之他是世界上最好的AD之一,他值得尊重 08/08 01:15
leawweikeng :走位跟觀念好 我只看到這字我就想噓了 08/08 01:15
Germany169 :完全屁話XD 08/08 01:16
ccode :噓觀念和走位前先想想自己能不能用ashe升鑽一 08/08 01:16
leawweikeng :當團隊陷入逆風時候 AD就要負起carry的責任 genja?? 08/08 01:17
iampala :genja之前用上ashe上2K+的! 08/08 01:17