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標題Re: [外絮] Snoopeh文字講解GG vs AZF #1
時間Mon Jan 21 02:17:43 2013
※ 引述《swwf (十字路口)》之銘言:
: Azubu Frost vs. Gambit - Semi Final #1 - IEM Katowice
: Snoope文字講解
: snoopeh: You will notice Gambit opted to have two people top against Shy's
: singed - they know how dangerous he can be if he is not shut down. It's going
: to beat Darien struggles on Renekton though.
: Something very common in Korea (and now the world) is 3 man dives on top
: tower and push the lane early. Blaze well experienced with that.. setup the
: counter gank and turned a 3v2 into there favor and pick up the first kill.
: (Must stop confusing Blaze & Frost!)
你會發現GG選擇上路兩人壓SHY的新吉德,他們知道要是沒壓住的話會很危險,他會打贏
Darien的鱷魚(?)
三人塔殺上路然後早期推線再韓國很常見(然後全世界),Blaze很有經驗,準備好反gank
然後把3v2轉為對他們有利以及取得首殺(必須不要把blaze & Frost搞混!)
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: Mod snoopeh: Templar didn't need to flash that - but pay attention to his
: itemisation. As I said in the previous game when Cynaide went Madreds first
: on Amumu it's not worth it - therefore you can see Cloud Templar's amumu
: picking up the Philo stone first.. Now he will most likely go into some
: Health.
Templar(frost JG)不需要用閃現,但是注意他的物品,我上一場說Cynaide(FN JG)的
阿姆姆出紅爪不值得,所以你可以看到Cloud Templar的阿姆姆先出賢者之石,然後他
大概會撐點血
: Mod snoopeh: Level Two boots picked up by Evelynn early - a common choice
: because Evelynn typically wants to roam a lot early and pick people off due
: to her high mobility.
EVE很早出二級鞋,這很常見的,因為EVE通常想要用她的高機動性到處遊走撿人頭。
: Because Xin Zhao started Blue buff, it spawns around 7:10 - where as Amumu
: started red buff which meant his blue wasn't up until 7:35~ .. That meant
: Gambit weren't able to "trade blues" on the 7:10 mark.
: (Although.. they did get it later by picking up that kill)
因為趙信從藍開始,藍會再大概7:10~重生,阿姆姆從紅開始代表藍大概要到7:35~,代
表GG沒辦法再7:10"交換"藍BUFF(你拿我的,我拿你的)
(但是他們之後還是因為殺人拿到了)
: Shy going for the early Ninja Tabi's - good choice against the heavy AD
: team of Gambit.
: One of the issues with a stacked AD team is teams can stack armor against
: it - notice Evelynn picking up a Chain Vest already. However with Season 3
: Armor Penetration is very strong with Items like Brutalizer/Last
: Whisper/Black Cleaver being part of every teams item list.
SHY先出了忍鞋,對上GG偏AD的隊伍是很好的選擇
偏AD的隊伍有個問題就是對面可以疊護甲,注意到EVE已經出了一個鎖子甲(810),但是
S3的護甲穿透像是1337殘暴之力/耳語/黑切非常強壯。
: Mod snoopeh: Another blue buff pick up by Frost and because of the pressure
: applied on Top lane, it is unlikely Gambit will be able to contest Frost's
: blue. A very strong early game team from Gambit is suffering against Frost -
: however they pinch ahead in gold with that Dragon pickup.
Frost拿到另外一個籃BUFF,因為上路的壓力GG不太可能挑戰Frost的藍,GG早期強的隊伍
對上Frost有點落後,但是他們因為拿到小龍所以$$領先。
: Mod snoopeh: Gambit doing exactly what they need to do. Force fights while
: they are stronger - before Singed gets too farmed and his split pushing is
: too potent.
: The reason for Renekton picking up the Sunfire is to try and combat the
: Singed split push and provide extra AoE damage during team fights.
: If you look at Cloud Templar's Amumu build - this is typically the best
: build path for amumu at the moment. With the exception of the boots depending
: on the team you are against.
GG做了他們該做的,當他們強的時候逼戰,再辛吉德農太多然後分推太強以前。
鱷魚選擇火斗的原因是試著對抗辛吉德分推然後團戰時貢獻一點範圍傷害。
要是你看Cloud Templar的出法,這通常是阿姆姆現在最好的出法,除了看對面選鞋子。
: Mod snoopeh: An interesting pickup from Diamondprox's Xin Zhao.. getting the
: Locket of Iron Solari. The reason for this is to add extra shields to the
: team when Blitz lands a pull or Evelynn tries to burst someone.
: Convincing team fight win from Frost, however realising that Cloud Templar
: wasn't at the Dragon.. Alex Ich stuck around knowing that he had a good
: chance to steal the dragon. Well done to him, helping to keep Gambit in the
: game.
Diamondprox(GG JG)的趙信出了個有趣的東西"日輪",原因是當機器人抓到或是EVE
要秒人的時候上盾。
Frost團戰贏的很漂亮,但是Alex Ich(GG AP)知道Cloud Templar不再龍區,他有個好
機會偷巴龍於是留下來,做得不錯,幫助GG保持競爭力。
: Mod snoopeh: Keep an eye on Shy's Singed - he is notoriously an absolute
: pain. The problem is no one in the European scene plays against Singed, they
: find it hard to deal with him due to not being that experienced against it.
: As mentioned previously.. the benefit of having a heavy AD team.. is you
: are exceptional strong early game.. but because the early game was relatively
: equal Frost now has the ability to stack armor and reduce the damage of
: Gambit.
: Incomming legendary MadLife Blitzcrank pull... I'm waiting for it!
注意SHY的辛吉德,他因為讓人頭痛非常的有名,問題是歐洲沒有人完辛吉德,他們
因為沒經驗所以很難打,之前提過偏AD的隊伍優點是你前期非常強,但是因為前期平手
Frost現在可以疊護甲來減少GG的傷害
傳說的Madlife機器人神抓要來了,我等著!!!!
: Mod snoopeh: The reason that fight went so horribly wrong - the amumu ulti
: wasn't in the best position and too early. RapidStar went too deep with not
: enough CC on the backline.. he got melted in the back. If Gambit can continue
: to shut down RapidStar (Evelynn) in team fights.. they might pull away with
: this one.
: Tense moments, Frost is a little cautious after that last team fight going
: poorly. The Zhonya's does make a big difference but he has to be more careful
: going to deep without the backup of his team.
那場團戰打得很糟的原因:阿姆姆的大絕位子不好也放太早,RapidStar(Frost AP)
衝太深後面又沒有太多CC,他整個被融化了,要是GG能持續再團戰壓住RapidStar(EVE)
那他們可能就能打贏這場
緊張的時候,Frost因為上一場團戰打不好而有點謹慎,小金人很有用但是他要小心不要
衝太申讓隊伍跟不上。
: Mod snoopeh: Excellent Ezreal Ulta at the start of that fight, Xin Zhao &
: Renekton forced Frost to cluster around them.. massing a lot of AoE damage in
: one spot. Close team fight, I think it could have went a little better for
: Frost if Templar/Woong came back in together.
EZ再團戰開始的大絕超棒的,趙信根鱷魚逼著Frost擠在他們周圍,再那小範圍造成很多
傷害,很接近的團戰,我認為要是Templar/Woong一起回來會隊Frost好一點。
: Really surprised that we don't have an Aegis/Bulwark coming out of Gambit -
: I hope it's Diamonds next item.. It would really help the team.
: Failed execution/communication by MadLife & CloudTemplar leads to missed
: abilities & cooldowns. Noticing this, Gambit went on full offensive and
: forced a team fight.. leads to them getting a Baron and now in the driving
: seat.
很驚訝沒看到GG出軍團盾/大盾,我希望那是Diamondprox的下一個物品,對團隊很有
幫助。
Madlife & CloudTemplar失敗的執行/溝通導致技能沒擊中根CD,注意到這點,GG馬上
逼戰,結果拿到巴龍又佔上風。
: Looks like Xin Zhao is now going for that Aegis/Bulwark - the global gold
: from baron and winning these teamfights is doing tonnes for him.. Especially
: as a jungler struggles to get farm at his point when it's passed to the
: carries.
: Seems to be lack of communication on Frost's part - those flings/hooks
: should be coordinated with Bandage tosses. They just missed the opportunity
: to force a fight under the turret and pick up a kill or two.
看起來趙信要出軍團盾/大盾,巴龍給的$$根團戰打贏對他幫助很大。尤其當JG要把兵
給輸出吃而很難農兵的時候。
看起來像是Frost溝通不夠,那些過肩摔/抓人應該根丟繃帶協調好,他們剛剛失去再塔
下逼戰然後拿到一兩殺的機會。
: Mod snoopeh: Alex planned on jumping in, dealing some damage and jumping out
: as his team followed up.. But a great ultimate from Amumu held the entire
: Gambit team still and meant Alex was chunked low before teams really
: exchanged damage.
: Forcing him out early, with the GA on Evelynn led to that team fight
: working out for Frost granting them the first inhib of the game.
Alex想要跳進去,輸出然後跳出來讓隊伍跟上,但是阿姆姆不錯的大絕把整個GG隊伍抓住
,代表alex再兩邊交換傷害前就少了很多血逼著他出去,EVE的GA導致Frost打贏團戰
拿到這場第一個兵營。
: Mod snoopeh: Diamond's XinZhao played a vital role in that team fight -
: forcing Woong out and drawing the attention of 3 people. While cleverly
: kitting when he got low.
Diamondprox的趙信再團戰的角色很重要,逼著woong離開然後抓住三個人的注意,血少
的時候聰明的放風箏。
: Itemisation on both teams is great this game. Frost building FOUR randuins
: omens. Stacking a tonne of health.
: Black Cleaver to AoE shread Frosts Armor.. Starks Fervor to help the heavy
: AD team life steal and do more damage from Sona. The Bulwark from Xin
: providing loads of Magic resist across the board against quite a heavy magic
: damage team
兩隊這場的出裝都很棒,Frost出了四個蘭盾,撐了一堆血。
黑切來範圍降低Frost的護甲,嗩吶出吸血旗幫助偏AD的隊伍吸血跟更多的傷害,趙信
的大軍團盾提供全隊一堆魔防對抗偏AP傷害的隊伍
: Mod snoopeh: The early inhibitor from Frost meant that Gambit getting the
: Baron was slightly nullified. However it did give them loads of global gold
: and a chance to farm in their base.
Frost稍早拿到的兵營根GG拿到的巴龍稍微打平,但是巴龍給GG整隊$$然後兵營給他們
機會再基地裡農兵。
: That Crescendo was excellent. Edward patiently waited until he seen Frost
: grouped. KhaZix had excellent positioning knowing exactly when to go in and
: out.
: Guardian Angel down on Evelynn, 2 Guardian Angels up on Gambit.. Frost need
: to avoid fighting.
: That's going to be game. In an attempt to prevent the Baron - Frost forced
: themselves into a team fight where there items meant they were behind.
那索那大絕超棒,Gosu耐心的等到他看到Frost聚在一起,卡利斯的走位很棒,完全知道
啥時進啥時出。EVE的GA掉了,GG還有兩個GA,Frost需要避免團戰。
這場差不多了,為了要避免掉巴龍,Frost逼自己打不想打的團戰,因為裝備上落後。
: Congratulations to Gambit Gaming taking the series.
: taking the first game*
: oops
: This game was more about items than team composition, impressive by both
: teams.
恭喜GG拿下第一場
這場出裝比隊伍組合重要,對兩隊都印象深刻。
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