作者gogodidi (林唄)
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標題Re: [閒聊] TPA會贏下S2的五大理由
時間Sat Oct 13 04:03:57 2012
簡易翻譯
: http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/
: vvinrar/21939-why-the-taipei-assassins-will-win-season-2
: 1. The world has only seen 5 games from Taipei.
: TPA近期曝光太少,S2又在八強才開始出賽五場,有機會藏招
: Azubu Frost is coming into the finals as a powerhouse. The world has been
: following Frost and its sister team Azubu Blaze for months, and other teams
: have dozens of AZF replays against top Korean teams to watch and study. On
: the other hand, most public TPA games were stomps against weak Southeast
: Asian teams in the Garena league, and the games against stronger teams have
: not been played recently.
AZF本來就是被看好的強隊,AZF和AZB一直都被關注,而且有很多和韓國強隊的RP可以
研究。TPA的公開遊戲只有和東南亞弱隊在GPL的交戰,近期沒有和頂尖隊伍交手。
: Frost has used all of their cards already. They have already played 8 games
: this tournament, with half of those games using team-tailored strategies to
: take out specific opponents. If they had any planned cheese or unorthodox
: team compositions, they have already used them. On the other hand, we have
: seen nothing but brilliant standard play from Taipei Assassins. Given how
: long the team has had to plan their strategies, there is still a possibility
: that they will pull out cheese strategies to take a game or two off their
: opponents.
AZF牌都打光了。他們已經打了八場比賽,其中一半是用特殊戰術,已經不太可能再有
更多藏招可以用了。TPA到目前為止都是用完美的正常戰術,很可能還拿得出一兩個大
招陰掉AZF一兩場。
: 2. TPA has knocked out top seeds from both Europe and Korea.
: TPA打掉的都是歐韓兩國的高位種子 AZF只是打贏了TSM (想戰?)
: Azubu Frost has knocked out Najin Sword and Team SoloMid. Team Solomid came
: into the tournament without much confidence as vlogs from both TSM and Curse
: proved that they had not been a dominant force in scrims. Additionally,
: Azubu Frost already had extensive practice playing against Sword and similar
: teams, as they were from the same region. Sword was beaten with standard
: Korean play, and a weak North American Team was unsurprisingly outplayed by
: the Korean snowball meta.
AZF打敗NJS(?)和TSM。TSM自己都覺得是來觀光的,不意外會被韓國雪球戰術大敗。
(我怎麼不記得AZF有在這次比賽對到NJS...這部分就不翻了)
: Last night, Moscow 5 lost a Best-Of-3 set for only the second time on LAN in
: 10 months since debuting at IEV Kiev in January. By knocking out the most
: favored team of both spectators and professional players, Taipei Assassins
: have set themselves up to be one of the greatest threats of the tournament
: and beyond to Season 3. In addition to knocking out what many saw as the
: "team to beat," TPA also took out the #2 seed in the rest of Korea in Najin
: Sword. While it is debatable how strong iG really was at a team, Taipei
: definitely had to play through a more difficult bracket in the Round of 8 and
: the semi-finals to get to their final match; Frost only had to prove
: themselves with early-game invades against CLG.EU, a team that isn't renowned
: for their early game, and against a weak TSM.
昨晚M5剛剛拿到了十個月內僅有的線下BO3第二敗,TPA因此證明了他們是S3最有威脅的
隊伍之一。此前TPA還擊敗了韓國第二種子NJS。TPA在八強內抽到的籤比AZF硬的多(因為
iG好像實力有待評估),AZF則是只靠著早期侵略性打法就贏下了以後其著稱的CLG.EU,
以及打敗弱隊TSM。
: 3. CLG.EU/TPA have been scrimming non-stop all week, while Frost has only
: scrimmed other Asian teams.
: CLG.EU這幾天都在幫TPA練習 (CLG.EU台北粉絲團的功勞? XD)
: 沒有強隊想跟AZF練打 (sword咧? 回家了?)
: Ultimately, a best of 5 series could go either way, and it comes down to
: practice to see who will win the championships. And this is where the
: difference lies. TPA has been scrimming a dominant team, CLG.EU, all week in
: preparation for the finals. On the other hand, there aren't any Western
: teams that will scrim with Frost, which means that they will have weaker
: practice opponents coming into Saturday's match.
BO5的比賽很難說結果會怎樣,任何因素都可能造成影響。CLG.EU這星期一直在幫TPA準
備決賽,但沒有任何一隊歐美強隊要和AZF練習,這代表他們這周練習的強度會遠低於
周六的決賽。
: In a series where one mistake can make the difference between victory and
: defeat, the caliber of scrimmage partners may make the ultimate difference in
: who will win the set. With Western teams willing to scrim Taipei Assassins,
: but not Azubu Frost, TPA has an automatic advantage by being able to play the
: best teams outside of their actual opponents.
當任何失誤都可能導致錯失勝利的時候,在練習中的檢討可能最終造成決定性的差異。
當西方隊伍願意幫助TPA時,他們自然具備優勢了。
: 4. AZF-Shy has only been playing LoL for 6 months.
: Shy才剛轉LoL半年, 可能有未碰過的狀況或組合
: No matter what your background is, if you've been playing for 6 months, you
: haven't seen the entire game. No amount of mechanical and team skill can
: save you if you are thrown against a team composition or a champion that you
: have never seen before. If the Taipei Assassins brings out something
: previously unseen in competitive play, inexperience can throw any player off
: their game. The top lane is where we may see the greatest possibility of
: cheese, as inexperience in any way will be a perceived weakness until proved
: otherwise.
就算你天資過人,只玩六個月是沒辦法看到整個遊戲的。如果驟然遇到從沒見過的英雄
或隊伍組合,任何個人或團隊技術都幫不了你。如果TPA拿出藏招,青澀的Shy可能會GG
,尤其他是最容易被滾的上路。
: Take Doublelift as an example. When he first burst on to the scene with his
: stellar Blitzcrank play, everybody in North America knew that he had a bright
: future in competitive play. Yet despite his mechanics, he was shunted from
: team to team until he had enough experience? Why? Because when he had to
: face something that he had no prior experience with (support Taric), he
: choked and failed miserably. It took him almost a full year to adjust fully
: into the competitive climate, when he moved into the AD Carry position for
: CLG.NA. TPA can use Doublelift as an example and throw something unorthodox
: at Shy. No matter how strong he may appear, unconventional play may throw
: him off his game, perhaps fatally for Azubu Frost.
以DL為例,當他出道時他的Blitz大放異彩,所有人都知道這小子前途無量,但他在夠成
熟前卻不斷的一隊換一隊。為何?當他面對從未見過的對手(輔助taric),他爆超慘。直
到一年後他在CLG.NA改玩ADC他才適應了這遊戲。TPA可以用類似的方法對付Shy,丟出一
些他沒碰過的非常規打法,這將會打爆他,並可能最終導致AZF的失敗。
: In contrast with Shy's relative inexperience, Taipei has players who have
: been playing and making a name for themselves on the North American server
: for years. Lilballz was the original jungler for Counter Logic Gaming NA,
: and bebeisadog has been sitting in the Top 25 players on NA since the
: beginning of Season 1 despite his high ping. With their depth of experience,
: it is possible that they could bring back an old metagame to trick things up.
TPA玩家都很有經驗,在NA伺服器打滾已久。球z是最初CLG.NA的Jungler,bebe頂著黃
ping始終穩坐NA前25。靠著他們的經驗,他們說不定可以用古早meta來戲弄AFZ。
: Other Thoughts
: No matter what the result (or my predicted matchup), the Best-Of-5 series we
: will see from Azubu Frost and Taipei Assassins will be one of the closest
: sets of the series. Frost definitely has the teamwork and the strategy to
: take down yet another powerhouse on the world stage, and the series could go
: either way. But still, I feel in my heart that Taipei will reign supreme
: this season. And my prediction for the final? 3-1 TPA-AZF
: Do you agree with me, or will Azubu Frost take the finals? Please comment
: below!
不管最終結果如何,這場冠軍BO5會是這系列中最接近的一場比賽。AZF有很好的團隊合
作以及戰術,但作者覺得TPA將統治這個賽季。作者預估TPA會以3比1擊敗AZF。
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推 a2364983 :反觀NA...都被稱為WEAK TEAM 10/13 04:05
→ Disper :AZF打敗NJS應該是在韓國的比賽 例如OGN 10/13 04:05
推 cleansing010:tpa! 10/13 04:06
推 conference :玩六個月可以變成世界頂尖水準 真的是百年難得一見 10/13 04:06
推 LittleBoy34 :TPA GO GO 10/13 04:07
→ sillymon :其實我不認為TPA有什麼很特殊的戰術說.. 10/13 04:08
→ QuickIceMan :版主開賭盤!! 我壓打到BO9! 10/13 04:09
推 se493671 :古早meta ~XD 10/13 04:09
推 twchhmcs36 :哪來的BO9... 10/13 04:10
推 TerryTam :BO9是指像CLG.EU對WE那樣斷線重賽... 10/13 04:13
推 phoebi :難道有機會看到LULU上路嗎... 10/13 04:13
推 Linares :推TPA... 10/13 04:17
推 donkey5566 :辛苦翻譯給推 10/13 04:17
推 OnSEx007 :翻譯給推 10/13 04:25
推 Aprildie :沒人要跟Frost練習,他們是臭掉了嗎... 10/13 04:25
→ OnSEx007 :^辛苦 10/13 04:25
→ Aprildie :樓上抱歉把你切斷了lol 10/13 04:25
→ OnSEx007 :大概吧...在西方世界 你可以說他技術不好 但不能說他 10/13 04:26
→ OnSEx007 :作弊,因為在他們眼中那是極其嚴重的一件事情 10/13 04:27
推 legendarysoy:AZF打敗NJS應該是指韓國國內選拔 AZF第一名晉級 10/13 04:32
→ fanyi217 :嗚嗚 翻太慢來不及發文噜 10/13 04:36
推 sanxiao :沒人要陪作弊隊練習辣 T.T 10/13 04:42
推 exri :3:1 給一場國際禮儀 10/13 04:43
→ a7v333 :CLG.eu對上AZF,OGN先贏兩場,之後連輸三場,輸掉OGN 10/13 04:45
→ a7v333 :四場賽碰頭,又是先贏一場,然後被連趕兩場 10/13 04:46
→ a7v333 : *強 10/13 04:46
→ a7v333 :國際禮儀!? 找死嗎? 10/13 04:48
推 maplesift :NJS應該會幫自己人AZF練習吧... 10/13 04:48
推 kazamisie :作弊爛隊一定會輸 10/13 04:49
→ a7v333 :能贏不贏,除了增添風險,也是對比賽的不尊重 10/13 04:49
推 csrock2000 :TPA will dominating 10/13 05:09
→ gagoga :a7v333別生氣,我相信exri連內褲都賣掉全買彩券了 10/13 05:11
推 kyoko522tw1 :請問5戰三勝制的比賽 大概要打多久?? 10/13 05:13
推 tony70721 :給樓上 看打幾場阿 10/13 05:15
→ tony70721 :一場快的話30分 慢的話60分 取45分 10/13 05:15
→ tony70721 :5場就225分快4小時 直落三就2小時而已 10/13 05:16
推 blancothello:不介意打太久 可是真的希望比賽能好看一點 10/13 05:17
→ blancothello:EU打WE那幾場真的看到很煩 中間還離開電腦好幾次 10/13 05:18
推 tony70721 :其實拖到後面都是這樣 40分以上的場我想跟WE打EU都差 10/13 05:19
→ tony70721 :不了多少,就是推兵線 逼巴龍/塔 清視野 10/13 05:19
→ tony70721 :所以會覺得30分結束比賽比較精彩,因為比較緊湊 10/13 05:20
→ tony70721 : ^的 10/13 05:20
推 hisped :我都猜3:0 TPA加油 10/13 05:22
推 a7v333 :賽前會有出場介紹、還有主播的分析,每打完一場都會 10/13 05:22
→ a7v333 :有休息10~15分鐘左右,以五場打滿,估計要 6個小時 10/13 05:23
推 teakdavid968:TSM來觀光的?! 想戰?! 10/13 05:24
推 Istari :古早META就是中路AD 下雙人 上大男一位 10/13 05:24
推 teakdavid968:那另一位呢? 10/13 05:26
→ a7v333 :江狗吧? 或是roam 10/13 05:27
→ a7v333 :roam類似jungle,但是他更多的時間是dive等殺人 10/13 05:28
→ motocycle :推A7V..EU應該是想贏卻贏不下來 以選手的專業來說 10/13 05:29
→ motocycle :應該沒有輕敵的可能才對y 10/13 05:29
→ a7v333 :印象中牛是很好的roamer,兩等就很威了 10/13 05:29
→ Istari :還有一位就ROAM 偶爾吃吃野怪 主要在DIVE 10/13 05:30
推 tony70721 :我玩過茂凱+jax雙下滿多場的....很威 10/13 05:30
→ iwillptt :前陣子牛很夯 是連兩次nerf太嚴重麼0.0? 10/13 05:43
推 teakdavid968:ROAM遇到EU應該不好打吧 光是WARD就夠你跑得了 10/13 05:44
推 Ex200 :推翻譯 請問一下meta是什麼呀?? 10/13 05:47
→ mailforclass:板上搜尋標題 META 看爆文那邊 10/13 05:51
→ mailforclass: 篇 10/13 05:51
→ Ex200 :我已經知道了 謝謝哦!! 10/13 05:51
推 ohyeahbb :AZF還有AZB從韓國連過去練習吧 兄弟啊 10/13 06:12
→ kullan :TSM不是來觀光的 北美三隊都算地陪 10/13 06:33
→ OnSEx007 :樓上超酸 XD 10/13 06:42
推 za527 :真稱職的地陪XDD 10/13 06:58
推 jujustine83 :韓國去吃屎,TPA加油! 10/13 07:04
推 RagFair :好期待明天決賽現場觀眾噓爆AZF作弊事件 lol 10/13 07:12
推 KAOKAOKAO :東南亞弱隊...搞不好去北美也是嚇嚇叫 洋人本位... 10/13 08:16
推 seshiru :其實ALEX有特別澄清他指的觀光隊不包含TSM 10/13 08:17
推 no5566 :感謝翻譯 10/13 08:25
推 imwind :地陪笑死我...XDDDDD 10/13 08:35
推 eist :NJS也這麼無情嗎XD 10/13 08:43
噓 Dragula :拜託別讓作弊隊拿冠軍,我會崩潰。 10/13 09:02
→ Dragula :按錯,等等補推 10/13 09:02
推 hoe1101 :佛根:TPA贏了記得幫買幾個立華奏啊 10/13 09:03
推 bigsun0709 :說實話..AZF嘴巴臭成這樣 你跟我說他們人品好 鬼才相 10/13 09:04
推 Dragula :補一個 10/13 09:06
→ bigsun0709 :信...比賽中髒話連發 有隊伍肯幫他們才奇怪吧 人家 10/13 09:06
推 ifkill :東南亞弱隊?SAJ可是打爆了DIG哩! 10/13 09:06
→ bigsun0709 :打從心底瞧不起輸給他們的隊伍 這種傢伙就是欠電 10/13 09:07
→ moremore1234:泡菜內戰強度應該也不比TPA vs clg.eu練習差吧 10/13 09:07
推 Ebergies :AZF 給我的觀感的確不太好... 10/13 09:09
推 vc150430 :儘管這樣講很自大~Bebe跟對面AD根本不是同一個等級 10/13 09:19
推 hgy32 :其實仔細看比賽 bebe 下路都是打贏的!! 10/13 09:23
推 spiral1226 :既然說巨人弱 抽牌吧 10/13 09:29