[閒聊] Crs Saintvicious AMA

[WarIII (臥哀哀哀)]

http://tinyurl.com/8dd29u6
Raddit上看到的 熱騰騰的SV's Mlg Arena AMA 順便小翻譯一下 會挑喜歡的翻譯

Q1
Wickd:What do you think about your team being the only team that took a game of
Azubu Blaze at MLG?
講一下你們是唯一打贏韓國azubu blaze一場的看法

ClgSaint:Don't mean shit if didnt win the series!
輸了沒法打嘴砲

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Q2
jamgor:What do you think about reapered's irelia?
你覺得韓國azubu blaze的上路reapered如何?

ClgSaint:I actually really like reaperd's irelia and jax he applies
a ton of pressure in team fights and reacts to thing quickly
我很欣賞她的IRE 跟JAX 他反應很快而且給我們團戰帶來很大的壓力

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Q3
iiRandeh:Favorite person to get drunk with?
最喜歡跟誰一起喝?

ClgSaint:Elementz, Dan Dinh and liquid112
元素,但丁(氣象哥),liquid112(Crs教練)

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Q4
BattleChoads:Rest of Curse more motivated after facing Koreans?
打過韓國隊以後有更有動力嗎?

ClgSaint:Not entirely sure, I know cop is I will let you know about the rest
in a week or so haha.
不很確定,我知道cop有 我先休息一個星期再後告訴你答案 或者 科科

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Q5
StBlademage:why have you been building aegis over wardens on nocturne and
shyvana recently in tourneys?
為什麼你這次比賽出noc跟龍女的時候 都會在燈籠後面接軍團盾?

ClgSaint:Lot of teams have been running double ap, aegis is good for it.
對付雙AP的隊伍 軍團盾Good!!!

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Q6
Tm0:Do you think double AP will slowly make it's way back into the meta
for solo lanes?
所以你覺得團隊雙AP戰術會慢慢廣泛回到遊戲中嗎?

ClgSaint:Only reason it isnt in the meta right now is because vlad and rumble
are perma banned.
現在還不會,因為西穴鬼跟藍寶多半會被ban掉

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Q7
CoRe23:What is the number one thing you think Curse needs to improve on as
a team, and how do you guys plan on accomplishing it?
你覺得Crs還需要改進哪些,並如何完成?

ClgSaint:Communication and aggressive decision making.
溝通跟侵略性戰術執行力

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Q8
charmex:What do you think about the koreans saying they fear you?
韓國人說怕你這件事情你怎麼看

ClgSaint:I think that stems from how I used to jungle. I got lazy though
and lost a lot of my skill. I'll be changing this int he next month.
我想應該是我將狗的風格,不過因為我太過懶惰所以現在很菜,下個月開始我會好好努力

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Q9
schrader10:cop elementz nyjacky fuckone marry one kill one
三基友選 一個當砲友 一個當基友 一個來當大體

ClgSaint:Fuck jacky cuss he might aswell be a girl, marry elementz cuss
we got bromance, kill cop cuss i sacrifice virgins.
鼻子性轉應該很正,元素是我基友,處男只能當大體

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Q10
iLurkHard:Were you surprised by any of the results today?
你對今天的比賽結果有任何意外嗎?

ClgSaint:Not at all, I knew TSM wouldnt be ready for Korean meta,
all american teams that have went into it are not used to the aggression
全然不,我知道TSM對韓國流沒有準備,打北美隊伍並不需要面對這種侵略性打法

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Q11
manisier:which members of curse are still virgins
誰還在室?

ClgSaint:I think just cop lol
應該只剩cop

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Q12
Kithix:Game 3 vs Azubu, you were set to lock Shyvana/Orianna, but nyjacky
swapped to Karthus. What was the reasoning behind that switch? And do you
think a different jungler would've suited the comp better or do you think he
should've stayed Orianna?
跟韓國隊的G3 你們本來選了龍女+球女的wombo combo組合 為什麼鼻子最後換死哥了?

ClgSaint:
This happened because jacky was mentality broken, and felt that he couldnt
handle the roaming so wanted to sit in lane with karthus, farm and just ult.
This kind of put us in a bad spot. I think we could have played off it better
though.
因為鼻子頭殼壞掉,他覺得他不能roam的很好,所以選死哥農線跟開大支援比較穩
這讓我們很難打,我想我們應該能打的很好

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Q13
2th:
How do you think Azubu Blaze's performance will change the way NA teams play?
你覺得這次韓國的表現有可能因此改變北美隊伍的玩法嗎?

ClgSaint:
I don't think their performance will change the way NA plays. CLG got a taste
of korean playstyle and CLG changed. DiG got a taste and DiG changed. This is
just TSM's turn to get a taste.
我不覺得韓國這次表現就會讓北美隊伍會改變他們的打法
CLG遭遇了韓國風格以後改變了,Dig也是
但這只是TSM第一次遇到這種風格

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Q14
squiggothhunter:
Do you think pushing towers down quickly will be the new meta?
速推塔會是一種新的meta嗎?

ClgSaint:
depends on the team comps, but just another strategy
取決於團隊需求,這只是另一個戰術


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[–]Dot145(NA) 17 分/分 3 小时 ago
What type of team comp works best with Shyvana?
龍女跟誰配很好?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 41 分/分 3 小时 ago
I really like shyvana ori just because of the wombo combo. TF also work snice
if you aim for early dominance.
配球女 wombo combo!! 配TF早期壓製制不錯

[–]UnintendedPoop[WalkaDaTalka] (NA) 31 分/分 3 小时 ago
When is Saint's Tots coming?
啥時想生?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 64 分/分 3 小时 ago
maybe if i win season 2 :D
等我贏了第二季大賽

[–]watervolcano 20 分/分 3 小时 ago
What do you think of Hsgg jungling now that he has been doing it a while?
HS現在的將狗你覺得如何
[–]ClgSaint[S] 34 分/分 3 小时 ago
dunno dont pay attention
不清楚 不了解 沒研究

[–]tonyturnsmeon 13 分/分 3 小时 ago
What has being in the navy taught you?
海軍教會了你什麼?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 47 分/分 2 小时 ago
Taught me patience.
忍耐

[–]Farfecnugen 19 分/分 3 小时 ago
Why do you guys blame everything on jacky? Cut him some slack D:
為什麼要一直罵鼻子

[–]ClgSaint[S] 62 分/分 3 小时 ago
Because jacky has played over 5000 games as ap carry and is stuck playing the
same way without adapting. We had the same problem with jiji for 3 months
post china. It took a lot of work and mean as well as nice treatment to
change him but it worked out for best. I think jacky can expect same if he
wants to be the best.
鼻子打很久了 但是他打法沒變化 他想進步他就需要改變 JIJI之前也是這樣....略

[–]TrollThatDude[RollinHard] (EU-W) 11 分/分 3 小时 ago
How would you rate Nyjacky compared to the other top AP carries and also, do
you think you guys need to find a "leader" for them calls?
跟其他AP比較你給鼻子打幾分?(後略
[–]ClgSaint[S] 19 分/分 3 小时 ago
Would rather have to not need a leader and jacky just need to adapt his
playstyle.
鼻子很好 只需要改變一下打法

[–]wattabeast 10 分/分 3 小时 ago
Do you think you're ever too harsh on the other players, and sometimes to a
really unfair extent (especially against nyjacky that is)?
你有沒有覺得你對其他隊友有點太過嚴厲到有些不公平?尤其對鼻子

[–]ClgSaint[S] 65 分/分 3 小时 ago
I am too harsh a lot. When there is this much on the line though I think
people need to wake up. Most of the pro players dont have true winners
mentality. If I can play the game and someone asks hey who is the best
jungler in the game, and I can't respond myself. Then something is wrong. I
fall into same category recently so I will pick it back up. I am just as
harsh on myself as I am others.
我是太嚴厲 但是總是要有人讓他清醒
大部分職業選手都沒有絕對要求勝的鬥志
我也是這樣要求自己 要當#1將狗 如果我做不到 那我也是同樣人
所以我也會鞭策自己
同樣我也這樣鞭策我的隊友

what do you think about the calls you made. if they have been followed you
could won against azubu?
你覺得如果你的隊友都做好你的call的要求 你們會贏韓國嗎?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 45 分/分 3 小时 ago
No the calls are not really a problem. A good team does not really need a
call maker because everyone reacts and communicates with one another in the
proper way without having to be called to do it. So the problem is everyone
in the team needs to communicate better.
call不是問題 強隊不見得需要有個caller
因為大家都反應很快 溝通也很良好 那根本不用call
所以問題是溝通不夠良好

[–]EliteTechX 12 分/分 3 小时 ago
What do you think about scarra saying Meat Playground will probably place 4th
behind the top 3 NA (clg, tsm, dig)? This means he thinks they are better
than crs, even tho they are new... Also, what do you think Crs has to
practice to beat the top 3 NA powerhouses in LAN tournies(since you guys are
pretty close in scrims)?
白雲說MP是每洲第4強隊 (CLG TSM DIG MP) 所以你怎麼覺得?

[–]ClgSaint[S] 44 分/分 3 小时 ago
I dunno scarras just a hater all the time cant say much for that lol.
我不知道白雲原來這麼黑我們,所以不該多說什麼

[–]hir0k 10 分/分 3 小时 ago
You guys are facing SGS on friday at IPL San Francisco, what do you think of
them? They're pretty much the best SEA team atm
The bracket if you need it:
http://challonge.com/iplfaceoffsanfranciscoshowdown
你們接下來在ipl 舊金山 要打新加坡先鋒隊 你有什麼看法?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 19 分/分 3 小时 ago
Honestly havnt really paid much attention to them, will pry research them the
night before though.
我們沒去注意sgs,會找時間去研究他們

[–]Kinch2 5 分/分 4 小时 ago
Why did you pick up Westrice over Rainman?
You say you want aggressive players who think for themselves. I would say
that description fits Rainman much better than Westrice.
你說你想要侵略型隊友 那西米跟trm你覺得哪個好? 我覺得trm比西米好喔
[–]ClgSaint[S] 67 分/分 3 小时 ago
rain man is the worst team player known to man
trm爛透了 不解釋

[–]Demizos 4 分/分 5 小时 ago
1 to 10. Your performance on MLG?
mlg上你給自己幾分?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 10 分/分 5 小时 ago
eh id say 6 I didn't do well 2 of the tsm games and I had a mental break. It
is hard playin your roll and trying to manage the teams decision making. In
the future I would like to have everyone think on their own once they can.
6分吧 打tsm的時候我打的很不好 沒法同時打好自己的本分又兼顧全隊的call
後來的比賽我打的就還不錯

[–]ggHoliday -12 分/分 6 小时 ago
Why are the koreans so good o.O, and why is xpecial such a cocky person
為什麼韓國人超強大 為什麼Xpecial會這麼自大?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 15 分/分 5 小时 ago
Eh tsm in general outside of Dyrus are just cocky. I don't blame them though
they have won a lot in the NA scene. However after anaheim I talked with
chaox and he directly stated the asian scene isnt good and isnt worth his
time paying attention to. This is the mentality I do not like. Xpecial did
the same thing as well as Regi.
tsm除了睡神以外都是這樣的,我不怪他們因為他們在美洲打遍天下無敵手
mlg安納罕站後我跟chaox說 他明確的回應說亞洲的觀念還不夠好而且不值得去關注
這是我不喜歡的點,xpecial跟regi也一樣想法

[–]MoonOfDavid 2 分/分 6 小时 ago
How do you feel about sej? balanced? Underpowered? Needs rework?
山豬妹如何?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 8 分/分 5 小时 ago
sucks
爛透了

–]tangodown44 14 分/分 7 小时 ago
How is curse going to prepare now the Korean aggressive tower strategy hasn't
been seen too much for the NA/EU teams?
你們怎麼準備什麼方式來對抗韓國人的超侵略推塔戰術?
[–]ClgSaint[S] 49 分/分 7 小时 ago
You beat aggression with more aggression. We did this game 2 and almost did
this game 1. Just need to train jacky to get get out of farm mind set and
into roam and fuck cs mind set.
你要以暴制暴,打的比對方還侵略,我們g2成功做到這點但是g1差一點就成功
只要幫鼻子改掉他想農想撿兵的的習性轉變成四處跑遊走的風格就行
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終於把所有覺得可翻的翻譯完了YA!!!

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◆ From: 61.62.188.34
推 enchyi      :SV QQ
推 hasroten    :推SV 輸了無法打嘴砲XDDDDDDD
推 iamwind7954 :COP屌是:Q_Q
→ iamwind7954 :   婊
→ iamwind7954 :   表
推 enchyi      :Q9 TOO STRONG Jacky不用性轉就可以上了 沒問題
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 17:10)
推 takamachi   :怎麼是寫Clg?
→ enchyi      :Q10也超強 XD 幹你們問這些啥鬼問題啦
→ enchyi      :Q11*
推 hasroten    :他沒換帳號  所以還是CLG
推 petersos80  :cop:幹 i want to shot something!
→ neverbbs    :贏了跟ELO高就可以嘴爽爽，這是真理
推 iuiuisme    :推SV
推 lpca        :cop表示:
推 enchyi      :        在室臭了嗎?
推 Homeparty   :這翻譯好 GAY
沒禮貌 是內容很GAY 什麼翻譯好GAY 說我正太控我還能接受??!!
推 librasky    :其實他分析的蠻中肯的
推 ZkNight     :鼻子性轉應該很正,元素是我基友,Cop會肛肛我所以殺了
→ enchyi      :SV的大局觀跟思維真的很特別 只是很容易大好或大壞..
→ enchyi      :而且還是那個老問題 隊友跟不上他的CALL 就會FAIL
推 hasroten    :SV一直都很中肯
推 lp2348      :TSM被M5虐成菜後集體轉去歐服,這次會去韓服嗎哈
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 17:19)
推 lisanna20   :原來是jacky自己換成死歌的 我以為又是sv要求換的@_@
推 SASHIKEME   :Cop會肛肛WTF@@! 擔任位置槍手
→ keepoo      :正太控的GAY式翻譯
推 hasroten    :SV應該會想用龍女+球女combo XD
推 ManInBlack  :kill cop cuss i sacrifice virgins<----?
→ SASHIKEME   :鼻子好幾次都支援失敗啊 應該說對面動作都比較快
推 blasteg     :Not at all 比較偏向全然不吧?
推 lp2348      :叫胖虎+SV兩個愛拼的去組一隊吧
→ ManInBlack  :殺cop應該是因為他選擇殺處男XD?
→ SASHIKEME   :尤其是上路被搞的很明顯 然後鼻子趕過去都來不及
→ soaringfish :sacrifice virgins和肛肛沒關係吧...
是這樣阿 XD 看樣子我想的太邪惡了
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 17:23)
→ SASHIKEME   :有個問題=  =ID怎麼不是CRS SV   CLG? lol
推 enchyi      :因為Reddit就跟PTT ID一樣 XD 懶的換了吧
→ enchyi      :所以這翻譯很GAY 得證 !
我最愛玩趙信 be a man!!(炸
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推 lisanna20   :sacrifice virgins(梗應該是中古時代的儀式吧?)
→ lisanna20   :常常要拿童男童女血祭
長知識了
話說問題這麼Gay 回答不想個gay一點說不過去阿!! orz
→ rufjvm12345 :cop算第3場的戰犯  所以狂表他
→ frankie30432:有關於call的問題他也有回答
→ frankie30432:wickd也有亂入就是了
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推 Ekmund      :誰是處男這問題超GY的
→ frankie30432:另一個文章HS關於MLG的回答http://ppt.cc/47qQ
hs這篇看了一下 滿官腔的 不過也是給韓國風格不低的評價
說tsm第一次打韓國人就決定要直接複製韓國流來對付韓國人的想法很不錯
最少他認為韓國被歐美低估了 等等.... 貓大快來翻譯喔!!
推 hasroten    :HS也太謙和有禮了 說好的戰戰呢(誤
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 18:11)
推 enchyi      :這不是HS阿 ~~~~~~~~~
→ a654        :A4, 他是說,一個星期後再回答其他人怎樣
推 teletubby   :a week or so 好像是指一星期左右?
推 minoru04    :結果他很喜歡老元素嘛
→ enchyi      :兩人都是結實的好男人的關係吧 (?
推 lisanna20   :他說jacky會的角色太少 這問題3個月前jiji也遇到過
→ lisanna20   :如果jacky想變真正的頂尖ap 還是得突破這問題
推 wulouise    :他ID還是CLG XDD
→ jeffreyshe  :SV根本鄉民風格XD
推 sillymon    :處男錯了嗎~~~~~
→ SASHIKEME   :AP MID在比賽中沒啥神表現都會被說這樣吧
推 trigungo    :有枕頭先生的AMA嗎~~
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推 enchyi      :原PO又GAY又傲嬌 說不翻了又翻了後半部 XD
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 18:34)
推 hasroten    :SV超鄉民的阿XDDDDD
推 zjps3407    :TSM感覺真的是毫無準備就去比賽了 被韓國電爆不意外
推 gatsby621   :推SV:輸了沒法打嘴砲      這很中肯
推 chamiso6    :原來XPECIAL很自大0.0
→ chamiso6    :他長得感覺很謙虛說= =
推 damnedfish  :第一次看到bromance這詞，真有趣XD
推 s80454      :JIJI一直都是頂尖AP阿..只是從神退化成人
→ s80454      :SV跟胖虎以前感情很好都一起雙排...現在不知道
SV一直強調他沒有要黑TSM 只是用來解釋給觀眾知道為什麼TSM會輸
說TSM壞話的都是觀眾
推 migyo       :鼻子在比賽中一直都不突出阿..被這樣講不意外..
推 lisanna20   :現在依然不錯啊 兩隊打完胖虎還過去和SV有說有笑的
推 iuiuisme    :有個影片regi跟SV不是還互打巴掌嗎
推 hasroten    :鼻子在Crs內算突出的吧...常常都靠他carry阿
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 19:17)
推 s80454      :鼻子很強阿，問題是比賽拿的出手的角色太少
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 19:44)
→ hasroten    :TRM爛透了  不解釋XDDDDDDDDD
※ 編輯: WarIII          來自: 61.62.188.34         (08/06 22:51)
推 hardyuse    :辛苦推
推 hasroten    :看來SV風格也在變了 他以前就是最愛農的那個XD
推 thedeathhero:真的很推SV   CLG唯一的良心    JIJI很少講話例外科