[討論] Who's the MVP ?

[Robbins (Pathology)]

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I was watching a game recently when the broadcasters began a discussion of
possible American League MVP candidates and Dustin Pedroia’s name was brought
up in a serious manner. I was a little floored by the notion. Do not get me
wrong, Pedroia is a fine player and a great asset to the Red Sox, but MVP?
No. There are several factors as to why not.


First, and this is a giant one, park factors. Fenway Park is a playground for
right-handed pull hitters ramping up the amount of singles and doubles hitters
get because of the green monster. Guess what Pedroia is? In fact, it is such a
huge influence that Pedroia’s park-adjusted wOBA is a whopping 11 points
below his un-adjusted number.


Secondly, there is defensive position to consider. Yes, Pedroia plays second
base, a tough position to play, but as Tango’s positional adjustments show,
second base is behind catcher, shortstop, centerfield and is tied with (and
this is important) third base.



Finally, we have the actual offensive production. Pedroia is good, yes I
admit as much and his play at second base only helps, but there are just far
better candidates for the MVP when you consider everything listed above. Joe
Mauer has been better with the bat, plays a much tougher position and even
works better under the whole “valuable, not best” argument because without
Mauer there’s no way the Twins are in the playoff hunt while without Pedroia,
the Red Sox are still very good. Not to mention that Joe Mauer is tops in the
AL in WPA. Staying in the Central division, Grady Sizemore and Curtis
Granderson are two excellent centerfielders who both have been more valuable
with the bat and glove than Pedroia.


Pedroia ranks 18th in the AL in WPA/LI and it’s in that list that we find
yet another worthy candidate who seems to be going overlooked, Alex
Rodriguez. Rodriguez plays a credible third base so he gets the same
defensive credit as Pedroia, but his bat just dominates everyone in the AL.
Again going by wOBA, Rodriguez has been worth over five more runs than any
other player has and most of the ones near him are DHs or corner outfielders.
For best hitter in the AL this season so far, it comes down to one choice,
Alex Rodriguez.


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國聯的 MVP 人選似乎不太需要討論，因為某人實在是太猛了。XD

這篇文章的底下有蠻多討論的，有時間不仿看看。


截取一段回應出來：

A-Rod may not be on the top of the charts in WPA, but he is in WPA/LI. And
since the year-to-year correlation of Clutch (WPA-WPA/LI) is .01 for the
players with 300+ PA in both 06 and 07.



AND A-ROD IS … (as of Sept. 7)

1st in AL in VORP
1st in AL in MLV
1st in AL in GPA
2nd in AL in OPS (Milton Bradley)
2nd in AL in RARP (Grady Sizemore)
2nd in AL in RC/27 (Milton Bradley)
3rd in AL in wOBA (Carlos Quentin and Milton Bradley)
4th in AL in WPA/LI (Milton Bradley, Carlos Quentin, Aubrey Huff)

That puts him roughly even with Bradley and ahead of all else.

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只看打擊成績而言，A-Rod 在大部分的貢獻數據中，幾乎都是排在前三名。
※ 編輯: Robbins         來自: 118.168.13.224       (09/09 21:00)
→ happychacha:我覺得BOS趕過TB的話小派很有希望
→ appshjkli:A-Rod或Sizemore應該會拿下這座MVP
→ sarserror:我倒是覺得派沒希望...
推 Carmelo3:Sizemore打擊率有點低....跟前兩年Beltran一樣
→ Carmelo3:不過Beltran拿不到也是因為NL某人太超過XD
推 mepass:大家為甚麼都不討論國聯
→ subcrew02:國聯不就撲吼獅了@____________@
→ OoyaoO:國聯有什麼好討論的XD  有個人這麼超過
推 gorhow:A. Gonzalez 明星賽後也是鳥掉了 = =
推 sherlockt:PU.... jols 太超過了!!!!!
推 OoyaoO:如果AL某人25勝 ERA在2.5以下不知道有沒有機會
推 t2007:國聯howard還有機會嗎...hr+打點雙冠王...
推 pikachu123:howard打率太低了
推 konkon:如果CLE闖進季後賽 也許C. LEE........
→ pikachu123:CLE比NYY還難100倍
推 lovemost:pedro的全壘打太少...
→ lovemost:隊長更有機會
推 pikachu123:CLE就算接下來全贏也不過89W連90勝都不到是要怎麼進
推 JoshBeckeet:我可以睹最後是A.huff拿到嗎?
→ JoshBeckeet:賭小派不如賭光頭佬
推 mightymouse:如果CLE進季後賽,也該是Sizemore拿而不是Lee
推 RollingWave:but he's unclutch!!!! >_b