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Will the Nationals pursue Shohei Ohtani? What about suddenly free Braves prospects? By Chelsea Janes November 22 文章來源:https://goo.gl/1KCEyJ Late Tuesday, Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball came to an agreement on a new posting system, according to reports by the New York Post, Yahoo Sports, and others. That agreement will allow Japanese star Shohei Ohtani to sign with any of the 30 MLB teams and will consequently set off an unprecedented recruiting frenzy for what many describe as an unprecedented talent. 本周二,根據紐約郵報、雅虎體育和其他媒體的報導,大聯盟與日職終於決定了本季的 入札制度,這項協議將允許大聯盟三十支球隊都有機會能與這位來自日本的超級巨星簽約 ,為了這位號稱史上最具天分的球員,一場史無前例的競逐大戰即將開始。 Ohtani, 23, is known for his prolific power and prolific fastball, which has hit 102 mph. He tantalizes dreamers with the promise of a legitimate two-way player not seen since Babe Ruth and entices professional evaluators with the potential for a front-line starter who can chip in offensively now and then, too. Any team could use a player like that, including the Nationals. Will they pursue him? 大谷翔平,這位年僅二十三歲的球員,以他的爆發力與102mph的快速球聞名, 同時他也是繼Baby Ruth後,第一位正統的二刀流選手,他也被評估具有直接進入前段 先發輪值的潛力,這些條件對所有的大聯盟球隊而前,都是不可抗拒的誘惑。而現在每個 球隊都有機會擁有這位球員,包括國民隊。那,國民隊會競逐他嗎? The short answer is sure. Who wouldn’t? One of Nationals General Manager Mike Rizzo’s most-used phrases is “due diligence,” which usually refers to showing an interest in a free agent or making calls on potential trades. You call. You ask. You see what it would take. The Nationals will do their due diligence on Ohtani, whatever they determine that is. 簡單回答的話,那自然是無庸置疑的,誰會不願意? 如國民隊GM Mike Rizzo最常用的名詞「盡職調查」,一般都會出現在當他對於一個FA有 興趣,或是被問到一個潛在的交易時的回答,你會盡所能的去評估並了解需要付出的代價 ,不論國民隊最終的決定為何,他們一定會對大谷做出盡職調查。 * 盡職調查,指在進行任何交易或簽署合約前,對於合約或相關交易人的調查。這類的 調查可讓決策者有更多系統化的資訊,以對其成本、利益、風險有更多的理解以做出最 佳的決策。 But logistically, they simply cannot mount the kind of pursuit that other teams can. Under the reported terms of that posting agreement, whichever team signs Ohtani must pay his Japanese team, the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters, $20 million. For the Nationals, conservative and slow-moving in their spending all around, that fee sounds prohibitively high. 但理性來說,國民隊完全無法像其他隊一樣,負擔得起追逐大谷所需的支出。 根據入札協議,不論是哪一隊獲得與大谷的議約權,都必須支付火腿隊兩千萬美金的轉 隊費。對財政保守的國民隊來說,這無疑是一筆過高的支出。 Even if it weren’t, the Nationals are crippled by their recent international spending. The Nationals blew by their 2016 international bonus pool when they spent nearly $5 million on more than a dozen players in a year they were allotted just $2.35 million — a signing class those within the organization think could yield one or two bona fide major leaguers, though they are still teenagers and therefore years away. 即使國民隊願意出錢,但他們在近期的國際球員簽約金上也會有大問題。 在2016年,國民隊花了將近五百萬美金簽了超過一打的國際球員,但他們的簽約金上限 卻只有三百三十五萬美金。這個上限是聯盟認為足以讓他們簽一至兩位貨真價實、具有 進入大聯盟球場實力的年輕球員。 But in keeping with the penalties outlined in the old collective bargaining agreement — penalties that carry over into this year’s July 2 period — the league penalized the Nationals by limiting them to a maximum of $300,000 on any one bonus over the next two seasons. As a result, they can only offer Ohtani $300,000 as a signing bonus. The Rangers and Yankees, not under penalty and with the two biggest international pools available, can commit around $3.5 million. 也因此,根據舊版的CBA,在今年度七月二號開始的這個國際球員簽約期間, 國民隊在未來兩年給予每位國際球員的簽約金不得超過三十萬美金。換句話說,國民隊 只能提供大谷三十萬美金的簽約金,而遊騎兵或洋基隊除了不受此限制外,他們目前還 用有全聯盟前二高的國際球員簽約額度,大約剩三百五十萬美金左右。 Still, had Ohtani waited two years until he was 25, he would not have been subject to signing bonus limits that govern the way teams acquire younger international talent. If money were the only concern, he would have waited two seasons, at which time he could have earned tens of millions more. The former Nippon Baseball MVP is reportedly more interested in the chance to compete in the world’s most talent-rich league, and to do so both as a pitcher and hitter. 若大谷願意再多等兩年,等到他超過25歲的話,他將不受國際球員簽約限制。 若金錢事他唯一考量的話,他就會願意多等兩季,屆時他將可以獲得超過千萬美金的 簽約金。但這位前日職MVP球員似乎對能與全世界最佳球員一同競爭的機會更有興趣, 不論是以投手或打者的身分。 In that realm, like the financial one, the Nationals can offer Ohtani far less than other teams. Their starting lineup is all but set. Their rotation, while in need of help, is not desperate for a front-line starter around which they would be willing to reconfigure their schedule so that Ohtani — used to pitching once a week — could transition comfortably. American League teams can offer the designated hitter and wouldn’t need Ohtani to play the field as he did as an outfielder for the Fighters. 在金錢方面,國民隊只能提供大谷遠少於其他隊的簽約金。 而他們的先發輪值也相對完整,他們的輪值雖然可以再更好,但並不是非要一個前段先發 不可。若他們獲得了大谷,為了要讓大谷能順利地適應大聯盟,他們可能得重新安排先發 的日程,畢竟大谷過去以投手身分的出賽頻率是每周一次而已。此外,若是個美聯球隊, 或許還可提供DH的位置給大谷,這樣他就不需像以往在日職得以外野手的身分出場。 Besides, the Nationals do not have a history of chasing Asian-born players under Rizzo’s watch. Much like their reticence to spend on Cuban players, who command huge deals before proving anything in MLB, the Nationals have been cautious in their approach to Asian talent, largely because of the belief that comparable, more proven talent is available in other marketplaces — for more manageable prices. 況且在Rizzo主政的時期,國民隊並沒有競逐亞洲球員的例子。 如同他們看待古巴球員一樣,他們認為簽一個古巴球員需要在球員還沒證明自己有能力 站穩大聯盟前,就要花費非常大筆的錢,因此國民隊鮮少花錢在古巴球員身上,也因此 他們看待亞洲球員時,也是持相同態度,變得相當謹慎。他們會認為相較之下,他們可以 從其他管道獲得一些已證明自己身手的球員,且所花費的金額是他們能夠負擔的。 In other words, Ohtani seems unlikely to find his way to Washington. But he is not the only remarkable talent available on the international market. 也就是說,大谷前往國民隊的機率似乎不高, 但大谷並非今年國際球員市場中唯一耀眼的球員。 Tuesday, MLB announced the results of its investigation into the Atlanta Braves’ international dealings. Among the punishments levied on the Nationals ’ division rivals was the release of a dozen international prospects the Braves signed during the last three international signing periods. One of them, Venezuelan Kevin Maitan, is a highly touted 17-year-old shortstop the Braves originally signed for $4.2 million. Maitan was ranked 72nd on Baseball America’s midseason top 100 but has received less-positive reviews as a professional than he did during his much-discussed amateur days. 在禮拜二,大聯盟宣布他們對於亞特蘭大勇士隊在國際球員市場交易行為的調查 結果,勇士隊必須釋出他們在過去三個國際球員簽約期間所簽下的十二名新秀。其中來自 委內瑞拉的Kevin Maitan就是一名相當有名的游擊新秀,勇士隊給了他四百二十萬簽約金 。在BA季中的百大新秀中他只排名72,對他能否成為職業球員的評價與他在業餘時期 相當熱烈的討論度相比似乎有所下降。 According to reports from the Athletic, the New York Post and others, the released Braves prospects will be subject to the same bonus pool rules as any other — though teams can use either their remaining money from their 2017-18 July 2 funds, or from next season’s (but not a combination of both). The Nationals’ penalties for overspending in 2016 extend to next season, meaning the most they can offer any of the Braves prospects is $300,000. Other teams will likely be willing and able to offer Maitan, and others, more. 根據Athletic、紐約郵報與其他媒體的報導,這些被釋出的勇士新秀將受到相同的 簽約金規定限制,其他球隊可以用他們今年七月二號開始的2017-2018國際球員簽約期 內他們所剩的金額來簽這些球員,或是利用下一季的簽約期所擁有的簽約金金額來簽下 這些球員(但是不能夠跨季計算)。國民隊因超過國際球員簽約金上限而受到的懲罰 將導致他們在未來兩季所能提供給這批勇士隊球員的簽約金最高不得超過三十萬美金。 而其他球隊,如果他們願意,將能夠提供包括Maitan在內的其他球員更高的簽約金。 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 上一篇翻譯文討論國民隊的新教練,下面幾位大大推文提到大谷,剛好今天滑新聞就看到 這篇,就順手翻譯了一下,從這篇看來國民要搶(得到)大谷的機率應該低到不能再低了... 簡單的說就是國民隊在今年除了不太可能簽下大谷外,連勇士隊被釋出那批新秀應該也是 無望了。 順便查了一下,與國民隊一樣受到限制的球隊有:運動家、太空人、勇士、紅雀、教士 與紅人隊,照這篇文章的觀點應該也都是與大谷無望了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.115.36.223 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1511518284.A.84C.html ※ 編輯: kobec (140.115.36.223), 11/24/2017 18:12:36 ※ 編輯: kobec (140.115.36.223), 11/24/2017 18:15:21
Werth: 光是待國聯還是美聯就讓人猜不透了 11/24 18:23
sylviehsiang: 我覺得你花時間翻一個無望的文章好像是做白工= = 11/24 18:29
其實翻個短文不會花太多時間啦,偶爾查一兩個單字還好 反而是會一直分心去查相關的資料,不過還蠻有趣的啦
DannyAinge: 翻譯就推出 11/24 18:42
TreaTurner: 國民推 11/24 18:55
snsd56: 啥?我還以為已經內定洋基了 11/24 18:58
hogs: 2樓 不會呀 長知識耶 推原PO翻譯 11/24 18:59
chaobii: 翻了也好啊,讓抱有一絲希望的球迷早點認清事實 11/24 19:03
Aaronko: 大谷&Maitan我基都要了 11/24 19:07
a9564208: 忍一年會有合格報價能拿嗎? 11/24 19:13
Roshiel: 請問哪個球團不會去追大谷? 11/24 19:28
batmask: 一直都不覺得國民適合大谷 我還是想看大谷在美聯出賽啦 11/24 19:50
sunnei: 還是要看本人吧 搞不好他是國民的球迷 XD 11/24 19:51
我下午也剛好看到這篇推特,順便分享一下 Jon Morosiw認證帳戶 @jonmorosi 11月22日 When I asked Shohei Ohtani to name his favorite players, he first mentioned Ichiro and Yu Darvish. Then he said he likes to watch @Bharper3407 and has studied video of Harper at the plate. @MLB @MLBNetwork 24 replies 139 則轉推 402 個喜歡 當記者問大谷最喜歡哪個球員時,他先說朗神和達比修有, 然後他又說他喜歡看Harper並且會看他的影片。
crazypeo45: 真的去了有機會擺脫一輪遊嗎? 11/24 20:15
說好不提的XD
Edison1174: 大谷好像說打擊是學Harper的 11/24 20:28
secom: 有個重點沒考慮到 國民很愛頂級SP 就算不缺SP他就是想買 11/24 20:30
uranusjr: 買了剛好同時當 Harper 跟 Strasburg 備胎免得他們又傷 11/24 20:45
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a2156700: 跟大王一樣 喜歡哈波 11/24 21:08
Fukudome: 來我費對決Harper 11/24 21:16
raikkon41: 推翻譯~ 11/24 21:22
aaron97: 推翻譯 可是這文實在是… 11/24 21:38
sunnei: 大谷喜歡哈波 哈波喜歡洋基 那大谷跟哈波一起去洋基吧 XDD 11/24 22:11
astonic: 寫了半天結果什麼都沒講 11/24 22:44
frank94: 也對 不少媒體預測Harper到洋基機會最大 XD 11/24 22:45
threebig: 個人覺得國聯有爭取他的優勢 美聯的DH會造成他出賽太多 11/24 22:50
ChrisDavis: Harper是北老腦粉壓 11/24 22:55
bestteam: Maitan也是受害者 如果當初合約無效要回復原狀 11/24 23:28
bestteam: 那他領簽約金要吐回去給勇士嗎? 11/24 23:29
Yginger1: 我覺得誰簽到達比修誰就得到大谷 11/24 23:38
frank94: 那也要達比修比大谷早簽到約啊 11/24 23:44
frank94: Maitan不是會領兩份簽約金嗎? 都說additional了 11/24 23:46
frank94: 美聯DH會造成大谷出賽太多?大谷是怕出賽太少吧... 11/24 23:47
frank94: 如果他想少打一點 很多美聯球隊是求之不得啊 11/24 23:50
threebig: 我的看法是mlb各球團應該覺得他的打擊尚不足以打DH 所以 11/25 00:49
threebig: 希望他可以專心投球比較恰當 但大谷當然想要試試打擊 11/25 00:50
threebig: 這就是雙方認知上的差距了 11/25 00:51
s910: 大谷會在意300萬還是50萬嗎? 對他來說應該沒差吧 11/25 00:56
catxfish: 還想客串打擊的話一年真的投的到200局嗎..... 11/25 01:07
sylviehsiang: 多的是一年沒200IP的SP好嗎? 11/25 03:24
Aretimis7345: 300萬與50萬的差距是250萬美金阿 日幣也好幾億了 11/25 06:59
Aretimis7345: 沒人在嫌錢多的 尤其這錢還不少 11/25 07:00
OoyaoO: 很難兩百局吧 他去年跟前年局數都沒很多 11/25 08:03
frank94: MLB即便覺得大谷打擊能力不足 即便希望他專心投球 11/25 08:04
frank94: 但既然只要花不到24M 為了得到他 還是會讓他打 11/25 08:06
frank94: 前兩三年給300PA 造成的傷害再大 也大不過投球貢獻 11/25 08:07
frank94: 管他認知有啥差距 就算犧牲一點打擊 換頂級潛力投手誰不 11/25 08:10
frank94: 要 11/25 08:10
frank94: 至於幾局的問題 這麼便宜 每年只100局球隊也大賺 11/25 08:11
Roshiel: 他只要慢幾年去,是多幾億鎂,現在去真的就是不要錢 11/25 08:52
Aretimis7345: 現在去當然是為了夢想 但是可以拿多好幾億的日幣 11/25 09:55
Aretimis7345: 沒人會拒絕吧 除非有堅持要去的球隊才會排除價碼 11/25 09:56
Aretimis7345: 大谷在意的應該是1.二刀流 2.PA數 3.錢 11/25 09:59
Aretimis7345: 錢當然不是最重要的 但是當差距好幾億的時候 11/25 10:00
Aretimis7345: 錢也會變成一個考量的重點 11/25 10:00
sam9595: 覺得沒差的是想太多 人可以不要CEO薪水 但不代表能接受清 11/25 10:09
sam9595: 潔工薪水 11/25 10:09
Pujols5: 這季200IP以上的也才15人 11/25 10:27
borriss: https://i.imgur.com/Gh07E53.jpg 有 夢 沒關係啦 11/25 12:25
Roshiel: 幾百萬鎂大谷應該看不上眼,留在日本就更多惹 11/25 13:16
saiulbb: 謝謝分享 11/26 04:10
hoos891405: 等著看他打擊搞笑被電爆 11/27 07:43
eden3q: 等著看他打爆樓上臉 11/27 12:29
eden3q: 怎麼會說翻譯這篇是白費力氣呢 11/27 12:29
eden3q: 去看朗神語錄,只要認真,做任何事都有意義 11/27 12:30