[外電] 水手總管Dipoto到底是做的好還是不好?

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來源: The Seattle Times
網址: http://tinyurl.com/y9goyz65

Mariners’ roster has changed under Jerry Dipoto, but is it better?
水手總管Dipoto到底是做的好還是不好?

He trades incessantly, relentlessly — perhaps even obsessively.
他不停地交易，冷血的地交易--甚至是執念般地交易。

In the past 23 months, he has made more deals than anyone in Major League
Baseball.
在過去23個月裡，他交易的數量比大聯盟裡面的任何一個總管都要來的多。

Nearly two years after becoming the Mariners’ general manager, Jerry Dipoto
remains the game’s most entertaining executive.
在成為西雅圖水手總管近兩年，Jerry Dipoto成為聯盟最有娛樂性的執行者。

One question, though: Has he actually made this team better?
但是，有個問題: 他有把水手隊變得比較好嗎?

It’s a fair query given how the M’s just lost their fifth consecutive game
and sit at 66-68 for the season. And it’s especially fair given how that
defeat came on the same day as another Dipoto trade.
在水手隊連輸五場，戰績變成66-68後，大家有這個問題一點都不過分，更何況那是在     
Dipoto又完成一場交易的同一天發生，有這樣的問題一點都不過份。

Hours before the Orioles’ 8-7 win over the M’s on Wednesday, Seattle
acquired right-handed starting pitcher Mike Leake, $17 million and
international bonus-pool money from St. Louis for minor-league infielder
Rayder Ascanio. Lots of moving parts on that deal — but the needle wasn’t
one of them.
在西雅圖星期三7-8輸給金鶯後，西雅圖水手從紅雀隊拿到右投先發Mike Leake，拿到了   
1700萬鎂的補償，以及國際簽約金，水手把小聯盟內野手Rayder Ascanio交易到紅雀。    
很多的球員跟細節在這場交易發生，但是卻沒有拿到需要的。

In Leake — who will be under club control through 2021 — Seattle gets a
starter that epitomizes average. The 29-year-old has a 4.02 career ERA and
was at 4.21 this season before the Cardinals shipped him and his $55 million
contract out.
在Leake的交易: 水手球團擁有他的合約到2021年，有個平均水準的先發，Leake現在29歲  
，生涯ERA4.02，在紅雀的這年ERA是4.21，與紅雀的原合約總額有5500萬。

So will it pay off for the M’s? Well, based on the trades Dipoto has made
since he got here, the answer is as simple as heads or tails.
這交易對水手來說划算嗎? 呃，從Dipoto來到西雅圖所做的交易結果來看，答案大概會是  
跟猜硬幣正反面的機率差不多。

Take a move such as dealing pitcher Nate Karns for Jarrod Dyson, and it’s
hard to think Seattle didn’t win. Injuries have limited Karns to just eight
starts this season, and Dyson has dominated the outfield and base paths for
Seattle, racking up a 2.2 WAR in the process.
就拿把Nate Karns換Jarrod Dyson這筆交易來說好了，很難不說這筆交易西雅圖有賺到。  
Karns有傷，本季只投了8場先發；Dyson在外野表現傑出，WAR有2.2。

But then you look at how the Mariners got Karns in the first place — trading
Logan Morrison, Brad Miller and Danny Farquahar for him, C.J. Riefenhauser
and Boog Powell last year — and it doesn’t look so productive.
但是若去看去年水手怎麼拿到Karns的--他們把Logan Morrison，Brad Miller，跟Danny   
Farquahar換走，拿回Karns, CJ Riefenhauser跟Boog Powell--這筆交易看起來就不怎樣  
了。

Morrison has 32 home runs for the Rays this year. Miller had 30 for them last
year (although his numbers are way down this season). Riefenhauser, Powell
and Karns haven’t done much of anything.
Morrison今年在Rays扛了32支HR，Miller去年也扛了30隻(今年數據下滑)；換來的        
Riefenhauser，Powell跟Karns就沒啥表現可言。

We can play this game for a while.
這個猜硬幣的遊戲還可以繼續玩下去。

Ben Gamel? Great pick-up by Dipoto. He was leading the AL in batting average
at one point this year and was acquired for a pair of low-end pitching
prospects.
Ben Gamel? 這個Dipoto換的不錯，今年一度是美聯聯盟打擊率第一，是用兩個低階潛力投 
手換來的。

Chris Taylor? Terrible give-away by Dipoto. The infielder has a 4.4 WAR for
the Dodgers this year — second-best on the team — and was traded for
pitcher Zach Lee, whom the Mariners waived in December.
Chris Taylor? Dipoto把他換走真的是太糟糕了。他今年在道奇內野，WAR是4.4，在道奇  
球隊排第二；西雅圖那時換來Zach Lee，水手12月的時候就把他釋出了。

Acquiring first baseman Yonder Alonso for Powell was a buy-low move that has
paid dividends for the Mariners. Trading away pitcher Mike Montgomery for
Daniel Vogelbach — who has a minus-0.4 WAR in his seven games this season —
 has not.
把Powell換走，換到Yonder Alonso算是一個逢低買進的出手，結果也算是收穫頗豐；但是 
把投手Mike Montgomery換走，換到Daniel Vogelback--本季七場比賽，WAR-0.4--就是賠  
個一屁股的買賣。

As far as Dipoto’s most significant trade to date? The one that moved
Taijuan Walker and Ketel Marte to the Diamondbacks for Jean Segura and Mitch
Haniger? Even that one is up for debate.
所以，到目前為止，Dipoto最重要的交易是哪樁? 把Taijuan Walker跟Ketel Marte換到   
Diamondback，拿到Jean Segura跟Mitch Haniger這筆? 即使這筆都還有待商榷。

Segura, who gave Seattle a shortstop and leadoff man in one fell swoop, is
hitting .299 this season — good for 10th in the American League. But Walker
has logged more than 126 innings and has a 3.55 ERA.
Segura，水手的游擊跟開路先鋒，本季打擊率.299，美聯排名第十；換出去的Walker則是  
投了126局，ERA3.55。

Haniger exploded out of the gate but has struggled since returning from
injury. Marte has played well since returning from the disabled list.
Haniger一開始有爆發，但是在受傷回來後就陷入掙扎；換出去的Marte則是在從DL移出後  
表現不錯。

The combined WAR for Segura and Haniger this season is 3.3. The combined WAR
for Walker and Marte is 3.6.
Segura跟Haniger的合併WAR本季是3.3，Walker跟Marte則是3.6。

Of course, evaluating trades based on one season isn’t fair. Dipoto has made
a concerted effort to acquire players he can control for years to come. But
are those players going to produce?
當然，用一季的交易來評估是不公平的。Dipoto用了各式各樣的努力去找到球員，可以確  
保幾年內的輪值無虞。但是，到底這些球員的表現會不會好呢?

Plenty of Dipoto’s decisions are worthy of praise. He never traded the
ageless Nelson Cruz. He has gotten solid production from Guillermo Heredia.
And his team (barely) remains in the wild-card picture despite a slew of
injuries.
很多Dipoto的決定還是值得稱許的，像是他從未交易不老的Nelson Cruz，Guillermo      
Heredia的表現穩定，水手隊在有些傷兵的狀況下，仍然(機率很低)在外卡的競爭行列內。

But he also has made a series of deals (Seth Smith for Yovanni Gallardo,
Tyler O’Neill for Marco Gonzales) that seemed to serve quantity more than
quality.
但是他做的某些決定(像是Seth Smith<->Yovanni Gallardo, Tyler O'Neill<->Marco     
Gonzales)，看起來就像是重量不重質。

Just before the trade deadline, former Fox Sports baseball writer Ken
Rosenthal quoted an anonymous executive, who said of Dipoto: “I’ve never
gotten it. It feels like he has made 348 trades to turn a .500 team into a
.500 team.”
在交易大限之前，前福斯運動棒球記者Ken Rosenthal引述一個不具名的球團高層，說到   
Dipoto，「我實在搞不懂，看起來Dipoto像是做了348樁交易，然後把一個五成勝率的球隊 
變成還是只有五成勝率的球隊。」

Given that the Mariners finished 10 games better in 2016 than they did in
2015, this seemed unfair at the time. Now? I don’t know.
水手在2016比2015多贏了10場，這樣說Dipoto就不公平。那現在呢? 那就不知道了。

Given its injury-prone rotation, Seattle’s starting pitching doesn’t
necessarily stand to get much better next year.
看著這麼容易受傷的先發輪值，能保證水手的先發投手群明年一定會投的比今年好嗎?

And with Cruz and Robinson Cano getting a little more banged up each season,
the offense might take a dip as well.
而打擊方面，Cruz跟Cano每年都逐步耗損，明年的打擊能力可能也會下降。

An endless list of transactions can tell us exactly what Dipoto has done. But
do we know what he has accomplished?
一長串的交易名單只會告訴我們Dipoto做了哪些事情，但是球隊會不會變得比較好就是天  
曉得了。
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那個不知名人士講的話真的是中肯:
「我實在搞不懂，看起來Dipoto像是做了348樁交易，然後把一個五成勝率的球隊變成還是 
只有五成勝率的球隊。」

幫我水兵QQ

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推 bluesai: 一直不懂他交易是看心情還是怎樣
→ bluesai: 而且他很討厭trumbo..
推 abcde2048: 第一眼看成水管總手
推 doraemon47: 感謝你兵從我猴拿走Dipoto 想到普神跟黑米就氣
推 cd12631: 但普神和黑米不是你家老闆欽點的嗎
推 hahabis: King for Brian Cashman, 結案
推 Car1osCorrea: 我也很討厭Trumbo...尤其是他在天使守左外的時候
噓 rex9999: 把交易當電動的　看薪情不顧感情的　最終都會失敗
→ jerryklu: Pedro：馬的，樓上是在嗆我逆?
→ EEERRIICC: suck
噓 LlewynDavis: 廢物一個 跟KT差不多
推 lwifbf: 公平交易界的王者 十分公正 跟他交易絕對不吃虧
推 KyleSeager: 想不透Talor Oneil為啥換到Marco Gonzales
→ KyleSeager: Ben Gamel 明星賽後打超爛==
推 KyleSeager: 簡單說，Dipoto補了西牆，東牆就破。補完東牆，西牆又
→ KyleSeager: 破了！？
推 KyleSeager: Mark Trumbo是換到金鳥哪位球員啊 沒印象了
推 ghoster7: 不過JD不做這些交易的話水手戰績還能維持一定的競爭嗎?
推 cd12631: 去年發表種族歧視的二號捕手
推 maxspeed150: Trumbo去年就像fluke啊 今年又變回replacement level
推 KurtZouma: 不是交易很多精很強，有時候等不知道他要補什麼
推 weitomato: 把五成勝率的球隊變成五成勝率的球隊真的超壞XDD
推 okinawa8: 川寶換到的是Steve Clevenger...發表種族歧視推文後就掰
→ okinawa8: 了
推 ucieric: 天使的農場就是被他挑空的~唯一功勞就是拉Trout到大聯盟
推 Kyosuke: 愛當菜籃族每天買進殺出 XD
推 TheBlueMoon: 借轉水兵版,感謝
※ TheBlueMoon:轉錄至看板 Mariners                                 09/01 20:04
→ ShaShoukun: Trumbo沒有守備而且選球鳥保送少又容易吞一票K
→ ShaShoukun: 他在有些有特殊傾向的隊伍裡不被喜歡很正常
推 saiulbb: 交易真的多到像打電動一樣XDDD
→ Pujols5: 裝忙高手?
推 madboy: 要弄的很忙 讓老闆看到你有在做事w
推 jackytao: 今年Taylor大爆發應該是意外吧，剛開始暴走的時候超多人
→ jackytao: 不看好(FB一丟撿不回啊Q)
推 KyleSeager: Taylor在水兵沒長打，今年在道奇是怎麼了？
→ LucasDuda: 躲人要說賽還是撿到Turner XD
推 triff: 超狂
→ triff: 水兵衝啊。
→ triff: 水兵水兵拿冠軍！
→ DanielHudson: 說不定Dipoto是有入航空公司的股，要幫忙賣機票的?
推 AZBTPATONY: 有些人在某隊就是打不出來 看看shaw
推 triff: 壓力沒這麼大的環境比較適合他，祝福他，還有祝福水兵
推 wahaha5678: Taylor有修過打擊姿勢
→ wahaha5678: 打擊姿勢加了抬腿，另外手部動作也有調整
→ wahaha5678: 只能說躲人的打教團隊有本事了
→ wahaha5678: 話說Dipoto來玩FB的話一定很有趣www
推 andy880036s:                              說不定他有玩啊XD
推 kenny781558: 我是天使迷 老實說我自己還蠻喜歡Dipoto的...
→ kenny781558: 他有些交易做的蠻漂亮的 只是後來和高層不合
→ kenny781558: 我認為他絕對不會成為一個不好的GM
推 ghoster7: JD聽說不是被說蝦給鬥掉了
→ ghoster7: 在洛杉磯的時候
推 koscew: 應該是一堆球員離開西雅圖後就打超猛
推 MotoDawn: 跟某些公務員很像阿 一直裝忙讓你感覺有在做事
推 tony160079: 但你要想 至少她還能五成變五成 豬頭B就辦不到