推 wadissimo:的確是該道歉 80.229.140.103 01/16
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- <
作者: Fergie (弗Sir) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: SAF說Arsenal還沒為潑湯事件道歉呢 沒禮貌
時間: Sun Jan 16 11:47:13 2005
弗格森披露飛湯門事件內幕 怒罵溫格行徑如同恥辱
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://sports.sina.com.cn 2005年01月15日13:36 新浪體育
新浪體育訊 在三周後曼聯隊將做客造訪海布裡，紅魔主帥弗格森已經開始了對槍手
的指責。在接受英國《獨立報》的採訪時，弗格森稱溫格在老特拉福德過道裡的所作所為
是一個恥辱，對於阿森納隊董事會拒絕道歉更是表示失望。
弗格森憤怒的表示，阿森納隊不但在場上充滿了攻擊性，而且應該為在場下發生的一
切負責，「在過道裡，他(溫格)公開批評我的隊員，稱他們是騙子。我的隊員進入更衣室
以後，向我描述了溫格所說的話。我很生氣，於是我出去告訴溫格，管好你自己，少說我
的隊員。」
「他迅速跑到我面前揮起了手，『那你想怎麼樣』，然後就站在那裡。這樣的行為是
難以理解的，這是恥辱。但我並不準備聽到溫格道歉」。
弗格森表示，賽後曼聯首席執行官大衛-吉爾和阿森納副主席大衛-戴因同意雙方都不
透露過道裡發生的事情，「但隨後你就聽到阿森納開始誹謗，吉爾給戴因打了三次電話質
問對方不守信用，但沒得到任何回應。馬上要到2月1日了，相信他們要開始新一輪的誹謗
了，我不指望溫格道歉，他就是這種人，但我希望阿森納俱樂部能寫信給吉爾，就他們球
員的行為表示歉意。毫無疑問，吉爾不會允許同樣的情況發生在曼聯球員身上」。
阿森納認為范尼對阿什利-科爾的犯規是危險的，弗格森承認了這點，范尼也被停賽
三場。不過他認為亨利攻擊曼聯後衛海因澤的行為沒有得到處罰，「現在有錄像，你可以
看到他們有更多的犯規，應該得到更重的處罰。雷耶斯抱怨自己有4次被踢倒，但C-羅有6
次，最重的一次來自雷耶斯。維埃拉有6次犯規，其中有一次惡意踢吉格斯，他只得到了
一張黃牌」。
弗格森表示，自己說這話的目的不是為了再和對手論戰，只是希望保護自己的俱樂部
在海布裡之戰中不被暗算。不過對于飛湯門事件的最大謎底誰是兇手，弗格森還是守口如
瓶。對於今晚和利物浦隊的比賽，弗格森表示球隊必須拿下比賽。他從來不會懼怕來自阿
森納的威脅，他知道怎麼對付槍手。
(顏敏)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- <
作者: punkdd (每天戒酒一小時) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: SAF說Arsenal還沒為潑湯事件道歉呢 沒禮貌
時間: Sun Jan 16 13:44:32 2005
溫格說弗老對他來說什麼也不是，他不會回應弗老的挑釁。
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4178407.stm
沒有人規定兵工廠不能輸吧....
難得輸一場球是全世界的錯就不是自己的錯?
怪裁判偏袒怪對手耍賤，以兵工廠的實力和等級來說，有點不相襯.....
尤其當他自己手段也沒比對手高尚多少的時候，
我想還是檢討自己堅強的陣容為什麼進不了球比較好...
如果要一點狀況也不出球隊才能發揮，一點怪事也沒遇到才能拿冠軍，
那不過是溫室的花朵罷了...
不過曼聯對上兵工廠就是這樣啦...永無止盡的輪迴啊.......
http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/man_united/story.jsp?story=601073
Exclusive: Arsenal still owe me apology over Old Trafford food fracas,
claims furious Ferguson
United manager labels Wenger 'a disgrace' as he breaks silence
over what happened in tunnel
By Glenn Moore
15 January 2005
這篇裡面Fergie很詳細的談到主場對Arsenal的種種事情
包括在tunnel裡溫格可惡的嘴臉和恬不知恥的態度
和他不知反省的球員以及董事會
"The worst losers of all time."
With less than three weeks to go before his side visit Highbury,
Sir Alex Ferguson yesterday reopened the controversy surrounding
Manchester United's victory over Arsenal at Old Trafford in October,
and the infamous "food fight" which followed it in the Old Trafford tunnel.
In an exclusive interview with The Independent,
Ferguson spoke in detail about the incidents for the first time.
He described the behaviour of Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager,
as a "disgrace" and the refusal of the Arsenal board to apologise
as a disappointment.
Ferguson also wanted to "set the record straight" about the match.
He said Wenger's suggestion that Arsenal's unbeaten run came to an end
only because his team had been "kicked off the pitch"
was completely inaccurate. Ferguson said that not only
were Arsenal the aggressors on the pitch, they were also responsible
for the subsequent tunnel row which left Ferguson
with pizza and soup stains on his shirt.
Ferguson told me: "In the tunnel he [Wenger] was publicly
criticising my players, calling them cheats.
I was told about this when they came into the dressing-room,
so I went out into the tunnel and said to him:
'You get in there and behave yourself, leave my players alone'.
"He came sprinting towards me with his hands raised saying:
'What do you want to do about it?' He was standing right there.
To not apologise for the behaviour of the players to another manager
is unthinkable. It is a disgrace.
But I don't expect Wenger to ever apologise."
Ferguson said the clubs then agreed, at boardroom level,
not to discuss the incident but Arsenal reneged on the deal.
"In the boardroom David Gill [United's chief executive] and
David Dein [Arsenal's vice-chairman] agreed nothing would be said
by either club," Ferguson said. "Then in the ensuing weeks
all you got was a diatribe from Arsenal about being kicked off
the pitch and all that nonsense. David Gill phoned David Dein
three times to complain about this but nothing was done.
"Now the return is coming round [1 February] and they will come out
with another diatribe. David Gill and I feel we should
set the record right. I don't expect Wenger ever to apologise
for anything - he's that type of person - but I would have
expected Arsenal Football Club to have written to David Gill
apologising for their players' behaviour. David Gill, without question,
would not have allowed that to happen at Manchester United,
and neither would I."
As well as being angered at the general acceptance of
Arsenal's version of events surrounding the "food fight",
Ferguson is equally concerned at the prevailing view of the match itself.
Ferguson has been carefully through the tape.
He admits Ruud van Nistelrooy's foul on Ashley Cole,
for which he incurred a three-match ban, was reprehensible
but said there was an equally dangerous foul by Thierry Henry
on Gabriel Heinze that went unpunished. In the game as a whole
Arsenal committed more fouls than United.
"The great thing about television is we can go through the video,"
Ferguson said. "If you look at the overall picture of the game,
they had more bookings than us, more fouls than us,
and in my opinion the worst fouls in the game.
[Jose Antonio] Reyes has complained he was kicked off the pitch.
There were four fouls on Reyes, one from Wayne Rooney,
one from Phil Neville and two from Gary Neville.
"Four fouls in the whole match - that hardly constitutes
being 'kicked off the pitch'. There were six fouls on
[Cristiano] Ronaldo and one of the worst was from Reyes.
Patrick Vieira did six fouls before the one he was booked for,
a cynical one on Ryan Giggs in the second half. To say the least
that is stretching the referee's tolerance. He's the captain.
He almost refereed the game that day, or tried to."
Ferguson added: "Wenger's quote on the morning of the game:
'I can't promise my players will behave themselves',
was a terrible message in relation to what happened the previous year.
In the opening 45 seconds Cole has gone out and done Ronaldo.
I'm not complaining. Football is a competitive game.
Great forwards like Ronaldo always get tackled.
But that set the benchmark. The referee [Mike Riley]
could easily have booked Cole after 45 seconds but
what would that have done to the game? The referee tried his very best
to have control and allow the game to flow, which is great credit to him.
"Van Nistelrooy could have damaged Ashley Cole with that tackle.
He could have given him a serious injury and he knows that.
Ruud could'nt believe it when he saw it on video.
He's not that kind of player. Neither would you say Henry
was the type to be violent but he could have seriously
injured Gabriel Heinze when he kneed him in the head.
We reported that but the FA said, 'It is more than 48 hours
after the game, we can't do anything'.
"Far be it from us being supposed to have kicked Arsenal off the pitch.
Yet Wenger is always complaining the match was not played
in the right spirit. They are the worst losers of all time.
They don't know how to lose. Maybe it is just Manchester United.
They don't lose many games to other teams."
Maybe not, but Ferguson's comments echo those made by Sir Bobby Robson
after Arsenal lost at home to Newcastle three seasons ago,
a match which concluded with Henry confronting the referee Graham Poll
on the pitch. Henry was later banned for three matches.
Ferguson added: "We tend to forget that the worst disciplinary record
of all time was Arsenal's up until last season.
Everybody hoped that the watershed for them would be that game
at Old Trafford when Van Nistelrooy was attacked by their players.
"In fairness to them it has improved. They had been up to all sorts,
manhandling referees, spitting at players.
Yet they are now seen as paragons of virtue.
To Wenger it never happens, it is all some dream or nightmare.
People forget he was done for manhandling a referee
[fourth official Paul Taylor in August 2000].
He got a 12-match suspension [and fine of four weeks' wages]
wiped out to a [￡10,000] fine [on appeal, the charge having been downgraded].
"I'm not saying this to wind the game up," concluded Ferguson.
"I'm saying this to protect my club before we go to Highbury
for a crucial match. It's important to put the facts right.
Whoever gets to referee the game has got a mammoth job on
and I don't want him going into it with the wrong impression
of what really happened at Old Trafford."
As for the match itself, given an even playing field Ferguson,
who takes his team to Liverpool today, is confident.
"It is a must-win game, but I never feel threatened by Arsenal.
I know we can handle them."
--
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)
◆ From: 140.112.232.104