推 punkdd:曼聯的歐文...聽了就很奇怪..不成不成... 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 k717261:反正Vieri都國米=>米蘭..歐文來曼聯也不錯 218.167.240.50 08/01
推 TPCMAX:歐文如果來了.說不定吸引傑拉德來投.這才是重點XD 140.113.59.242 08/01
→ TPCMAX:說真的.叫歐文去什麼米德士堡之類的更不倫不類 140.113.59.242 08/01
推 k717261:於是中場的問題也得以解決了XDDDD 218.167.240.50 08/01
推 KSDenilson:那樓上的意思是一石二鳥?還是醉翁之意不在酒? 218.163.102.20 08/01
推 TPCMAX:這一切都是幻覺.騙不倒大家的XDD 140.113.59.242 08/01
推 k717261:講真的..歐文是個效率其高且不需要時間適應英超 218.167.240.50 08/01
→ k717261:的好前鋒..當然假設利物浦這賽季不幸陷入沉淪 218.167.240.50 08/01
→ k717261:﹝假設而已紅軍迷勿氣﹞也可以順便誘惑傑拉德XD 218.167.240.50 08/01
推 punkdd:不會吧...歐文已經夠不曼聯了還想傑拉德...這樣球 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 punkdd:隊真的會變的很怪啊...而且利物浦今年行情不錯.. 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 punkdd:小聲說..我覺得歐文來曼聯比較不倫不類耶...又不 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 punkdd:是MLB...雖然曼聯不少名將都是從死敵手上撿來的.. 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 punkdd:不過我個人很受不了這種大搬風...雖然單就實力而 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 punkdd:論歐文"也許可能"是個好人選..但想到就三條線... 220.137.197.18 08/01
→ blackeagle:雖然在這的確是個買Owen的好時機...可是怎麼 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:都覺得我們現在買他實在不聰明...左盃在第三 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:點寫到,我們最大的文題還是在中場的疲軟,那麼 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:我們再買下Owen也沒改善中場疲軟的問題阿!!! 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 josephliu:也要owen能把范尼拉下來才行 61.59.73.198 08/01
→ blackeagle:讓Alan這個前鋒去打中場已經是個沒辦法中的辦 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:法了...再買Owen無疑就是個昏招了!!!曼聯的 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:迷們應該也非常清楚現在球隊會需要哪個位置吧 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:並不是有個國家隊當家的一對前鋒就可以被取悅 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:的吧?何況就算真的Owen來,有可能讓Rooney真的 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:去踢右翼讓Owen Rooney Ruud同時放在場上? 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:這樣只會更加凸顯我們的中場不夠力的問題而已 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 punkdd:其實說的簡單些，這個交易會被拿出來講，除了所謂 220.137.197.18 08/01
→ blackeagle:那如果要把Owen擺在替補席上...那麼Owen仍然 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:得不到他想要的"舞台"阿~~~ 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 punkdd:時機好之外，個人覺得沒什麼其他的理由。會扯出曼 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 punkdd:聯也是因為"最合理"，而不是我們真的需要，我覺得 220.137.197.18 08/01
→ blackeagle:其實左盃說的也真的頗有道理,只是這些理由有 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 punkdd:是站在商業的角度所產生的結果。就像之前巴拉克一 220.137.197.18 08/01
→ blackeagle:太多的"足球外的因素"了...身為球迷實在不願 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 punkdd:樣..從頭到尾球隊就沒說過要買他。 220.137.197.18 08/01
→ blackeagle:意看到這個轉會昏招發生阿 218.168.43.225 08/01
→ blackeagle:也對啦...不過這一賽季大概得苦了Owen了... 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 punkdd:你所謂苦了歐文是指啥? 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 blackeagle:就是指要苦了他要在皇馬當替補的替補了^^|| 218.168.43.225 08/01
推 punkdd:真不懂他那個時候究竟是為了什麼要去皇馬.... 220.137.197.18 08/01
推 joewong:他不會去兵工廠是因為溫格不要買他... 61.229.29.233 08/02
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作者: punkdd (每天戒酒一小時) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Tue Aug 2 10:24:10 2005
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=D&xml=/sport/
2005/08/02/sfnman02.xml
沒有要買...
有沒有人跟我一樣鬆一口氣的.......
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推 narcolepsy:我!140.112.232.104 08/02
推 blackeagle:me too ^^|| 218.168.43.225 08/02
→ baoyu:我絕對不希望 Owen 來投, 若 Ruud 沒態, 他更沒態. 202.64.148.10 08/02
推 dhand:我也是...(我是皇馬的).....^^ 210.85.78.16 08/02
推 jaclyness:鬆一口氣是鬆一口氣啦,只是覺得owen很可憐啦 220.137.80.28 08/02
→ jaclyness:明年就是世界盃年了,他在皇馬一直當替補, 220.137.80.28 08/02
→ jaclyness:不知道狀態維持不維持的住了.......(哀)... 220.137.80.28 08/02
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作者: TPCMAX (左岸沉思) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Tue Aug 2 11:44:18 2005
※ 引述《punkdd (每天戒酒一小時)》之銘言：
: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=D&xml=/sport/
: 2005/08/02/sfnman02.xml
: 沒有要買...
: 有沒有人跟我一樣鬆一口氣的.......
不過我看bbc說的是還在等
太陽報也是
重點在曼聯是否要賣掉SAHA
如果這兩天有人要SAHA
大概就會引進歐文...................
我這麼說實在對SAHA不公平
但是
如果真的是兩者選其一
當然會是賣掉薩哈買歐文.....=.=
這張照片真機車
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005350404,00.html
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※ 編輯: TPCMAX 來自: 140.113.59.242 (08/02 11:46)
推 Glorymanutd:Rescue him from Real Madrid... XD 134.208.27.230 08/02
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作者: punkdd (每天戒酒一小時) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Tue Aug 2 17:27:40 2005
嗯....
鏡報傳出Saha即將去Monaco，Owen快來了的消息.....
http://0rz.net/900x4
這又是何必呢....
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推 blackeagle:所以Monaco的報價是多少? 218.168.43.225 08/02
推 blackeagle:只是租借而已嗎? 218.168.43.225 08/02
推 blackeagle:好吧...如果Saha能賣個5~6M...Owen能在10M以 218.168.43.225 08/02
→ blackeagle:內入手...那我就贊成這筆買賣... 218.168.43.225 08/02
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作者: punkdd (每天戒酒一小時) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Wed Aug 3 01:26:17 2005
※ 引述《punkdd (每天戒酒一小時)》之銘言：
: 嗯....
: 鏡報傳出Saha即將去Monaco，Owen快來了的消息.....
: http://0rz.net/900x4
: 這又是何必呢....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4737911.stm
Monaco說沒有要買薩黑...
嗯...然後新堡不放棄買歐文...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4738361.stm
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※ 編輯: punkdd 來自: 220.139.63.118 (08/03 01:26)
推 Okuthor:新堡是該補個前鋒了，不能再只靠Shearer了。 219.80.128.229 08/03
※ 編輯: punkdd 來自: 220.139.63.118 (08/03 01:31)
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作者: TPCMAX (左岸沉思) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Thu Aug 4 11:21:55 2005
: 這傳聞一點都不奇怪
: 而且我覺得成交的機會非常大
: 主要的原因是
: 明年就是世界盃了
: 第一
: 歐文"絕對"需要舞台
: 而且是一個能讓他打上一定比賽場次的豪門球隊
: 這對他出賽明年的世界盃來說非常重要
: 那為什麼不是回利物浦或是去兵工廠??
: 重要的因素是魯尼
: 誰都知道易利信對英格蘭國家隊最鍾愛的陣容
: 就是歐文+魯尼
: 如果能在曼聯讓他們兩人長期搭檔
: 對於英格蘭國家隊的戰績及實力
: 還有兩人明年先發位置的確保
: 都有很大的幫助
易利信先生今天說
我希望歐文能轉會到曼聯
那對英格蘭會有很大的幫助
他在那裡效力並不要緊
但我真的很希望他跟魯尼在一起.................
那....要不要也順便勸一下Gerrard跟Lampard??.....=.=a
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推 blackeagle:附帶Terry和小賴特也順便一下好了XD 218.168.46.234 08/04
→ Paletta:感覺有點扯||| 140.112.114.15 08/04
推 a010069:=.= 220.228.156.24 08/04
推 lowlydog:ㄟ 來拆台的嗎? 有這財力的也只有我們.. 60.248.70.66 08/04
推 V8:樓上的，吉拉迪諾剛轉會到米蘭140.112.246.125 08/04
→ V8:傑拉德還在利物浦，埃辛還在法國140.112.246.125 08/04
→ V8:一億元卻買不到舒夫貞戈，也買不到小羅140.112.246.125 08/04
推 V8:穆帥：你們會後悔的XD140.112.246.125 08/04
→ V8:Fergie：我這裡有一瓶1918年的紅酒，來吧，穆帥!140.112.246.125 08/04
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作者: narcolepsy (I don't like Mondays) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Fri Aug 5 01:11:03 2005
有關於歐文葛格的事
Soccernet上有篇新聞引SAF的話
說Ole將在新賽季初復出囉!
這樣的話歐文來的機率應該變比較小了吧!
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=338064&cc=4716
Thursday, August 4, 2005
Ole return quells Owen transfer talk
Michael Owen's chances of joining Manchester United have receded
even further following the shock news that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
is on the brink of a first-team return.
Solskjaer, the popular Norwegian who memorably scored
the injury-time goal which won United the Champions League in 1999,
has endured a miserable two seasons with injury.
The 32-year-old was not expected to be fit until October after
being forced to have a second operation on the knee ligaments
he damaged against Panathinaikos in September 2003.
The second bout of surgery forced Solskjaer to miss the whole of
last season, sparking fears he may have to quit.
However, in the aftermath of last night's 6-1 triumph over Royal Antwerp,
Ferguson revealed Solskjaer is not too far away from a comeback a
nd could even be available for selection when United head to Everton
for their opening Barclays Premiership game on August 13.
'Ole just felt his knee again recently, but it was a different part
and now the swelling has gone down,' revealed the Red Devils chief.
'He is now back in training and, you never know, maybe he could be fit
for the start of the season.'
Although it is highly unlikely Solskjaer's fitness would be risked
without a significant number of reserve games under his belt,
his presence is further evidence of the striking strength
Ferguson has at his disposal.
Ruud van Nistelrooy returned to form with a hat-trick in the Antwerp win,
and Wayne Rooney showed his class throughout United's pre-season programme.
Solskjaer's presence as back-up - along with Louis Saha, Alan Smith
and emerging talent Giuseppe Rossi - gives credence to the Red Devils
officials who insist no bid for Owen is imminent.
The Real Madrid striker is rumoured to be desperate to return home
after being shunted down to fifth choice front man at the Bernabeu,
but so far none of England's Champions League entrants
have given any indication of being interested in the 25-year-old,
even at the knock-down price of ￡10million.
Of significantly more interest to Ferguson just now is ensuring
the preparations for next Tuesday's Champions League qualifier
with Debrecen run smoothly.
When the draw was made, most pundits expected the Hungarians
to provide little resistance in the first-leg at Old Trafford.
However, that was before Debrecen recorded a stunning 5-0 away win
at Hajduk Split last night, taking their aggregate victory to
an impressive 8-0.
'Going to Split at any time is not easy, so to come away with a result
like that is very impressive,' admitted Ferguson.
'Just from the scoreline alone, we know we have a game on our hands
next week, but that should be good for us.'
Debrecen, who won their first Hungarian title last season,
have indicated they will move the second leg to the capital Budapest,
where United were famously humbled by Zalaegerszeg at the same stage
of the competition three years ago.
'I remember the pitch being dry and bumpy, and not the easiest to play on,'
said Ferguson.
'But we are at home in the first game this time
and the usual European rules apply; get a couple of goals
and keep a clean sheet.'
Ferguson will spend the weekend hoping the ankle injuries
that saw both Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo limp off last night
are as insignificant as the Scot initially suggested.
Ryan Giggs and new signing Park Ji-sung are also expected to be available,
although, for the first time in almost a decade,
Phil Neville will not be around following his move to Everton.
After the departures of David Beckham and Nicky Butt
in the two previous summers, Neville's decision to move on
after 386 appearances for his only professional club,
is yet another reminder of the new team Ferguson is constructing.
With Giggs facing a twin challenge to his left-sided spot
from Park and Ronaldo, by May only Paul Scholes and Gary Neville
could be regular starters from the famed 'Class of 92'.
After eight league titles, five FA Cups and two European trophies,
Ferguson is still there as well of course,
thirsting after more silverware - and confident he will get it.
'We have got to where we want to be,' said Ferguson,
who called his players back a week early for the start of
pre-season training. 'We have a smashing squad and I am pretty happy.'
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推 Nihplod:ole 快回來 等你很久了/.\218.174.180.203 08/05
推 Okuthor:一年多了，我也還在等啊！快回來啊Ole！ 218.167.193.12 08/05
推 V8:是...兩年140.112.246.125 08/05
推 Okuthor:應該超過兩年了嗎？這麼久了？（汗） 218.167.193.12 08/05
推 V8:Owen快來...140.112.246.125 08/05
推 sea6122:Owen,Ole一起上,讓曼聯來個雙O連線.... 218.170.4.87 08/05
推 CR007:OLE~快回來吧~~~>< 61.216.148.178 08/05
推 JamesCaesar:好像從我開始上PTT時就沒看過他了？ 61.57.114.94 08/05
推 punkdd:Ole又不上ptt.....=.=a 220.139.63.118 08/05
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作者: GoldSky (123) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Fri Aug 5 10:08:04 2005
里昂主席不是說 希望留下45m辛 又希望歐文加盟嗎
現在正在上演里昂的野望...
反正我們現在也走上自己的軌道了
不需要破壞自己好不容易找回的步調
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◆ From: 61.124.70.183
推 blackeagle:其實要是可以,我還是認為搶下Eissien比較穩 218.168.46.234 08/05
→ blackeagle:不是不相信Alan的實力,而是Alan踢後腰畢竟只갠 218.168.46.234 08/05
→ blackeagle:是個實驗而已...Gold所謂的"回穩的狀態"還沒꘠ 218.168.46.234 08/05
→ blackeagle:經過任何一場聯賽的考驗呢!實在說不上已經走ꔠ 218.168.46.234 08/05
→ blackeagle:出我們想要的步調了... 218.168.46.234 08/05
推 GoldSky:但是我覺得最近的氣氛沒有前陣子那麼慌亂了 61.124.70.183 08/05
→ GoldSky:45m辛其實是蠻大的賭注 61.124.70.183 08/05
推 GoldSky:萬一花大錢反而沒有預期的效果就完了 61.124.70.183 08/05
推 blackeagle:當然我所謂的"可以"是指合理價錢啦... 218.168.46.234 08/05
→ blackeagle:45M就太誇張了^^|| 218.168.46.234 08/05
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作者: TPCMAX (左岸沉思) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: [傳聞] 買歐文傳聞又起....
時間: Fri Aug 5 13:59:19 2005
※ 引述《GoldSky (123)》之銘言：
: 里昂主席不是說 希望留下45m辛 又希望歐文加盟嗎
: 現在正在上演里昂的野望...
: 反正我們現在也走上自己的軌道了
: 不需要破壞自己好不容易找回的步調
說到愛心
我實在不喜歡一個球員說
如果不怎樣我就不踢球.....
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推 Santos:印象中只聽過皇馬的Anelka. 還有準皇馬的Robinho140.112.242.174 08/05
→ Santos:這樣說過...140.112.242.174 08/05
推 Okuthor:Saha好像也說過，Emerson也說過，其實還不少，這 218.167.189.87 08/05
→ Okuthor:種事應該沒人喜歡，太不敬業。 218.167.189.87 08/05
推 GoldSky:45m辛 法甲今年上過場了嗎 61.124.70.183 08/05
推 GoldSky:自己回答 45m辛上週連大名單都沒有耶 61.124.70.183 08/05
推 kaneggyy:Saha當初好像也是這樣鬧轉會... 218.174.244.81 08/05
推 TPCMAX:所以有報應... 220.139.21.69 08/05
推 Santos:哪帕事僱傭兵妳給他錢他也會幫你賣命...=.=140.112.242.174 08/06
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作者: Kawaru (RED DEVILS!!!) 看板: ManUtd
標題: [問題] OWEN
時間: Wed Aug 3 00:04:12 2005
據說Baptista去了皇馬
所以OWEN來曼聯的機率是不是更高了?
至於SMITH
我記得我在很久以前就說他應該試試踢KEANO的位置(6206篇)
因為ALAN的感覺像中場大於像前鋒
他常常踢出很棒的進球(令人印象深刻的是慈善盾對ARSENAL那球)
但是門前的感覺跟好機會的射門又常常不是那麼犀利
他踢中場這個位置很適合他的扯動/跑動能力
還有他的防守也很好 就地反搶就可以組織攻勢
得分能力也不會被埋沒(KEANO跟SCHOLESY進球也不比一個前鋒少到哪裡去)
不過不一定要定位在"KEANO"接班人上
KEANO+SCHOLESY跟未來的SMITH+FLECTHER應該是不同類型的吧
若是愛心來的話 那SMITH還可以踢SCHOLESY的位置
曼聯的鋒線 范尼跟魯尼一定是首選
替補的話 SAHA BELLION ROSSI都可以頂頂看
感覺不一定要SMITH上
SMITH現在踢腰的話
上場的機會應該比之前踢替補的時候多
KEANO也可以有適當的休息