作者punkdd (每天戒酒一小時)
看板ManUtd
標題Carroll事件後續
時間Thu Jan 6 11:47:52 2005
出現了一些有趣的說法。
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8303-1427656,00.html
ROY CARROLL is a cheat. He will not like the word, but we all have to face
the consequences of our actions. Carroll, the Manchester United goalkeeper,
dropped the ball. Goal. If Carroll failed to see that the ball had crossed
the line, then he is even blinder than he seemed at the time.
(大概是說Carroll作弊,他看見球過去了,如果他沒看見那他根本是瞎子。)
Therefore, he should have signalled “goal” to the referee, explained the
situation, allowed his side to lose the match and the point they gained for
the draw, and allowed Tottenham Hotspur to gain the additional two points
they would have got for the win. But it didn’t happen. Carroll got away
with it.
(因此,Carroll應該舉手告訴裁判球進了......略)
就跟當年馬大帥的命運之手一樣。
試想,如果今天你本來沒進,可是裁判誤判球進....
你會跟裁判說這球沒進嗎?
當裁判誤判點球的時候,有誰會舉手說
"報告裁判!我假摔!這球不該點球!給我牌!"或者"報告裁判!我該死!這球是點球!"?
Carroll這球真的很扯,但是球過去了,他還是卯起來把球挖出去,這很正常啊,
熱刺的保羅大叔遇到這種情況會目送球進網嗎?
如果裁判吹這球進了,Carroll也無話可說,可是他死馬當活馬醫的本能反應,
加上裁判的嚴重疏忽,就這樣造成這個遺憾,我想大家都很無奈,可是你要說這
是Carroll"不誠實",這樣講真的太牽強了。
如果Carroll事後不承認,那大家請卯起來唾棄他,但是事發當時,
我相信當Carroll凸槌時心裡也在喊"幹~挫賽!"然後卯起來救救看,這是他的工作。
當他爬起來發現裁判沒吹,誰知道他覺得多莫名奇妙...
Jeff Winter說:
He added: “Roy Carroll could just have put his hand up and told the ref it
was a goal, couldn’t he? People might laugh at that but why not?”
虧這位老爺還是個名哨。
裁判在場上的工作應該不是耍瞎和接受球員自發性的告解這麼容易。
照他這麼說場邊需要的不是錄影裁判是告解室和神父。
相對以上,熱刺大鋼門保羅大叔則表示不同意見
But Robinson, who only realised just how far Carroll had dropped the ball
over his line when he saw TV footage of the incident after the final whistle,
does not believe the Ulsterman should be judged too harshly
"I do feel for Roy," said the former Leeds man.
"It was a difficult ball to deal with in the first place and it was also a
very cold and blustery night, so the conditions were certainly not ideal.
"I know goalkeepers do tend to stick together anyway but I have quite a bit
of sympathy for Roy over this.''
(他說同樣身為守門員,他可以了解也同情Carroll出現這樣的錯誤。)
The 25-year-old backed up Sir Alex Ferguson, who claimed Manchester United
were also on the wrong end of a debatable decision when Rio Ferdinand was
fouled inside the Spurs area immediately after Carroll's blunder.
In this instance, replays proved inconclusive. Robinson though was convinced
it was a spot-kick.
"I was so far away from our `goal' there was no way I could have offered an
opinion until I saw it on TV,'' he said.
"But I have to say I thought the tackle on Rio was inside the area, so if
the referee thought it was a foul we were lucky to get away with the free-
kick.
"It just shows these things can work both ways, although you have to say
the incident at our end was not as clear-cut as the one at theirs. We really
should have scored.''
(他在賽後看過錄影帶之後也認為Carroll擺爛之後Rio被犯的那規裁判可以判點球,
可是很幸運裁判給了個自由球。)
根據小弟我的觀念來說,裁判算是知道自己出錯了,還熱刺一球聊表心意。
當然,這兩個爭議球的程度差太多了,不該相提並論,而且相信不論是誰都認為
熱刺那球是進的。碰到這種事情,在裁判的科技改良之前,我想真的只能說一切
都是命啊...Carroll這把詐胡是老天爺出的千...誰也沒輒啊...
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作者: TPCMAX (左岸沉思) 看板: ManUtd
標題: Re: Carroll事件後續
時間: Fri Jan 7 12:26:18 2005
這球實在太扯
不過納悶的是
WINTER是個向來對曼聯"極不友善"的裁判
竟然會誤判
真的是眼睛那天去給什麼東西糊到了....=.=
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過去半年來進的球
比之前大半輩子加起來還多
我想
我一定是病了
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