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※ 引述《covari (魚昆)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《yyc2008 (YYC丫逼)》之銘言: : : 大家好 : : 我想請問一題決定函數形式的題目 : : 是來自於物理上性質良好的函數 : : Show that if one assumes the functional form : : T = Σ[x_i f(x_i)] : : i : : Σx_i = 1 : : i : : where f(x) is some function of x, then the requirement that : : T is extensive implies f(x) = ? : : 感謝回答 感謝你的回答 這個定理真的是關鍵 : T is extensive means T(x_1, x_2,... a x_i, x_i+1, ...) = a T(x_1,....) : By Euler's homogeneous function theorem, : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_homogeneous_function_theorem#Properties : x . grad T = T ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 想請問一下 怎麼知道T是homogeneous of degree 1的函數? : where x = (x_1, x_2, ...) : x . grad T = Σ_k x_k @T/@x_k : = Σ_k x_k @/@x_k ( Σ_i x_i f(x_i) ) : = Σ_k x_k Σ_i ( @x_i/@x_k f(x_i) + x_i Σ_j @f/@x_j @x_j/@x_k ) : = Σ_k x_k Σ_i ( del_ik f(x_i) + x_i Σ_j @f/@x_j del_jk ) @f(x_i)/@x_k 不會等於 @f(x_k)/@x_k for i=== k 0 for i=/= k ?? f應該不太像是多變數函數 還是我理解錯了? = Σ_k x_k Σ_i (δ_ik f(x_i) + x_i Σ_j @f/@x_jδ_ij δ_jk ) = Σ_k x_k Σ_i ( δ_ik f(x_i) + x_i @f/@x_k δ_ik) = Σ_k x_k ( f(x_k) + x_k @f/@x_k ) : = Σ_k x_k ( f(x_k) + @f/@x_k) : Also T = Σ_k x_k f(x_k) by definition, : so the requirement that T is extensive is that Σ_k @f/@x_k = 0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 如果從你導出來= Σ_k x_k ( f(x_k) + @f/@x_k) 這怎麼得到的? 是不是應該是 Σ_k x_k @f/@x_k = 0? 還是可以繼續導到Σ_k @f/@x_k = 0? x . grad T = p T assume T a homogeneous function of degree p p T = Σ_k p x_k f(x_k) x . grad T = Σ_k x_k ( f(x_k) + x_k @f/@x_k) => Σ_k x_k [ (1-p)f(x_k) + x_k @f/@x_k] = 0 => xf' = (p-1)f => f = c x^(p-1) for a const c 可是答案卻是f(x) = c ln x的形式 不知道我上面的推導哪個地方發生問題了? 感謝回答 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.102.3