推 hopecity:叫鍾YO與郭嚴文點真的是....有你的123.193.116.225 09/15 22:35
推 godmanntut:五比零有什麼好點的0.0... 114.32.95.138 09/15 22:36
→ godmanntut:人家兄弟對我們的長打哈的要死 114.32.95.138 09/15 22:36
→ godmanntut:你還在那邊點點點.... 114.32.95.138 09/15 22:36
→ hopecity:搶分最快的方式是扛長打...怎麼會是點點123.193.116.225 09/15 22:37
推 kiss67618:點不是重點 重點是強棒點給弱棒打... 114.36.61.150 09/15 22:38
推 ted40905:教練觀念有問題 122.126.33.65 09/15 22:39
推 Bearcome:所以總冠軍賽也會這樣搞囉 孬= =140.115.216.221 09/15 22:39
推 godmanntut:真的不要哪天連鋒哥都點... 114.32.95.138 09/15 22:39
→ topjojo:高米茲明明是受到紅中影響 不是全壘打XD118.169.165.160 09/15 22:41
推 dawnchorus:不期不待中XD 123.205.29.155 09/15 22:49
推 odgbb:不期不待看球 但看到贏兄弟就是超爽XD 114.34.76.197 09/15 22:53
推 wilsonno1:果然贏了一次就開始篤信點點之術了 122.120.2.43 09/15 23:11
推 QQo1117:搶分=>點球 教練看不起自己的球員喔 117.19.98.86 09/15 23:14
推 MinChuan:長打很威還要點= =... 114.32.91.55 09/15 23:22
推 Bears:郭嚴文不錯 曾經是三振榜首 現在連69打數無K220.132.254.118 09/15 23:33
推 changeup:重點已經不是強棒點了,是大幅領先還點 140.112.125.74 09/15 23:33
→ changeup:總之已經變成阿搭馬控固力了,或者說 140.112.125.74 09/15 23:34
→ changeup:「我就是要點!」這種傲嬌心態了 140.112.125.74 09/15 23:34
推 lovebrige:才不是傲嬌,他是篤信點=搶分 111.248.4.17 09/15 23:35
→ lovebrige:一切都沒救了,講也不會改 111.248.4.17 09/15 23:35
推 pulibird:領先四分還點的理由到底是什麼 114.27.70.118 09/15 23:38
推 ji31g42go61:拜託誰都好!帶塊禁點牌子去敲教練腦袋 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:40
推 fit52122:比賽當然是拿越多分越好阿125.230.166.219 09/15 23:41
→ fit52122:拿越多分越保險 誰都不知道下一刻是怎樣125.230.166.219 09/15 23:42
→ fit52122:而且才領先四分而已...125.230.166.219 09/15 23:42
推 ji31g42go61:抱歉用了這麼激烈講法~但這種差勁觀念 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:43
推 hopecity:點點對搶分幫助很少好嗎......123.193.116.225 09/15 23:44
→ hopecity:有長打的隊伍一壘就是得點圈了 幹麼要點123.193.116.225 09/15 23:45
推 ji31g42go61:究竟是點的還是打的得分機會高!? 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:48
→ Bearcome:點球 頂多就多得1分 因為你等於是用一個140.115.216.221 09/15 23:48
→ Bearcome:出局數換一個得分的"機會"而已140.115.216.221 09/15 23:48
→ ji31g42go61:出局數 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:48
推 hergan:再興農也常出現 前面點後面長打 浪費一個出 140.123.218.42 09/15 23:48
→ ji31g42go61:想斷樓上XD 出局數是最珍貴的東西了! 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:49
→ hergan:局數 CPBL打這麼多年 觀念始終不變 140.123.218.42 09/15 23:49
推 hopecity:況且牛棚那麼弱 點半天拿一分有用嗎= =123.193.116.225 09/15 23:49
推 ji31g42go61:點完對方來個保送你不就白點了?XD 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:50
推 Bearcome:三點四敬五雙殺140.115.216.221 09/15 23:51
噓 goldjade:純粹噓領先還點 點的還是有長打..爛觀念. 123.195.77.60 09/15 23:51
推 fit52122:好吧 拍謝拍謝...125.230.166.219 09/15 23:51
推 ji31g42go61:而且怕雙殺幹麻?你看聯盟紀錄才幾隻? 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:52
推 ji31g42go61:我想我們是想罵教練......別自責啦!XD 220.136.28.46 09/15 23:54
→ LuckyQ:越多分越保險 那還送最珍貴的出局數 118.232.98.6 09/15 23:56
→ gfabbh:我想紅中只是沒膽量賭吧,壘上有人,接下來223.140.124.146 09/16 00:05
→ gfabbh:是連續安打還是連續出局,沒人知道,他可能223.140.124.146 09/16 00:08
→ gfabbh:認為與其賭不知道是否出現的大局,不如推進223.140.124.146 09/16 00:09
→ gfabbh:推進加犧牲打穩穩拿一分。223.140.124.146 09/16 00:10
推 ji31g42go61:但問題是可能連得分率都更低了...... 220.136.28.46 09/16 00:10
推 laihom0808:有哪一隊在一場比賽內沒有點再來罵吧 114.24.133.129 09/16 00:11
→ laihom0808:贏球也罵輸球也罵,都給你們當好了 114.24.133.129 09/16 00:11
推 MinChuan:打擊率3成長打率超過4成,點我很不能接受 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:11
→ MinChuan:如果是打擊率2成5也就罷了=_= 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:11
推 hopecity:看的是過程好嗎....只看輸贏根本是結果論123.193.116.225 09/16 00:13
推 ji31g42go61:要我當喔?那我去放顆西瓜就好啦(聳肩) 220.136.28.46 09/16 00:14
推 MinChuan:如果今天點的是修維紅猴電風,我可能沒反 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:14
→ MinChuan:反應,郭嚴文點一整個就很詭異,尤其是領先 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:15
→ j3307002:領先四分點中職邏輯是被轟滿貫就追平 123.194.129.62 09/16 00:15
→ MinChuan:4分的狀態... 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:15
→ j3307002:領先五分點就沒邏輯可言 123.194.129.62 09/16 00:15
→ j3307002:吳思點領先十分點過,黑伸落後六分點過XD 123.194.129.62 09/16 00:16
→ MinChuan:點點聯盟= = 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:17
→ MinChuan:對了,近十天郭嚴文打擊率.444 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:18
推 sadnight:原來有的人只要贏球什麼都好( ′-`)y-~ 61.31.176.162 09/16 00:18
→ j3307002:中職就是這個傳統派當家的聯盟XD 123.194.129.62 09/16 00:18
→ MinChuan:非傳統派什麼時候會出現呢?~ 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:19
推 lovebrige:像laihom0808這樣的板友也是不少呢 111.248.4.17 09/16 00:19
→ j3307002:以前我誤以為呂文生是,結果發現是誤會 123.194.129.62 09/16 00:19
推 Bearcome:我看CPBL122年 還是一樣殺豬公吧140.115.216.221 09/16 00:20
→ lovebrige:所以只要贏球了,就千萬不可以靠杯喔XD 111.248.4.17 09/16 00:20
→ MinChuan:我跟j大一樣,害我一度想跳槽統一 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:20
→ laihom0808:不多吧,我覺得版上嘴巴專業的比較多 114.24.133.129 09/16 00:20
→ MinChuan:結果飛總就打我臉了XD 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:20
→ lovebrige:是嘴巴專業,還是考證數據專業,請自己爬 111.248.4.17 09/16 00:21
→ LuckyQ:所以大家都學偷牛棚 反正別隊也這麼幹 118.232.98.6 09/16 00:21
→ lovebrige:本板以前針對觸擊戰術分析夠久了.. 111.248.4.17 09/16 00:22
推 MinChuan:我是純粹的數據派~不好意思~XD 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:22
推 Bearcome:中職會殺豬公也不意外啦 莊勝雄都說一個140.115.216.221 09/16 00:22
→ Bearcome:教練養成需要10年 種花都是球員馬上轉教140.115.216.221 09/16 00:23
→ Bearcome:練 然後觀念還是一樣古板 永遠把自己封在140.115.216.221 09/16 00:23
→ MinChuan:小葉和高志綱有在進修,不知道當教練之後 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:24
→ MinChuan:會不會變美式調度 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:24
→ MinChuan:我是說進攻戰術的部分,至於投手調度... 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:25
→ MinChuan:國內外都會操,只是看嚴不嚴重= = 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:25
推 Bearcome:國內 不願意出外吸收新知也就這樣了140.115.216.221 09/16 00:25
→ Bearcome:最快的方法就是請外籍教練 本土為輔140.115.216.221 09/16 00:26
→ Bearcome:老外在教的時候 本土教練的也是要學140.115.216.221 09/16 00:27
→ Bearcome:不是等到不請外籍教練之後 又繼續殺豬公140.115.216.221 09/16 00:27
推 lovebrige:1.請不起2.搶本土飯碗...洋教沒門,免想 111.248.4.17 09/16 00:27
推 MinChuan:那也要願意學... 114.32.91.55 09/16 00:28
推 sadnight:顧自己飯碗都來不及了還跟洋教練學習勒XD 61.31.176.162 09/16 00:28
→ sadnight:莊教練都回來開教學會那麼多次了有哪個教 61.31.176.162 09/16 00:29
→ sadnight:練有學進去改變過嗎? 61.31.176.162 09/16 00:29
推 hopecity:最少版上數據版講話有憑有據 不是漫罵123.193.116.225 09/16 00:30
推 Bearcome:所以持續殺豬公也不意外啊XD140.115.216.221 09/16 00:32
推 oicecnir:五比零是在點X小朋友.. 1.174.1.160 09/16 00:35
推 alex1212boy:我覺得比分拉大點沒啥不好總不要進了118.169.225.230 09/16 00:37
→ oicecnir:看這種變魔術方法不譙對不起自己.. 1.174.1.160 09/16 00:38
→ alex1212boy:季後賽大家先低潮連點的基本功都不會118.169.225.230 09/16 00:38
→ alex1212boy:好吧!118.169.225.230 09/16 00:38
推 ji31g42go61:大家低潮了點也是沒什麼用啊~(茶) 220.136.28.46 09/16 00:41
推 alex1212boy:照樓上的觀點~可能就只能怪保羅怎不沒118.169.225.230 09/16 01:17
→ alex1212boy:把大家調到高檔囉!?118.169.225.230 09/16 01:18
推 ji31g42go61:點了後面一樣低潮沒安打那能得幾分呢? 220.136.28.46 09/16 01:21
推 alex1212boy:低潮情況下~2個出局數賭一棒安打得分118.169.225.230 09/16 01:26
→ alex1212boy:的機率高還是3出局數賭2棒得分機率高?118.169.225.230 09/16 01:27
推 megumirei:觸擊個屁 明明就20:0 讓成這樣 220.132.10.40 09/16 01:31
推 wilsonno1:為啥三出局要賭兩棒... 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:32
推 sadnight:點到二壘一支安打不見得一定得分好嗎... 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:35
推 Bearcome:今天我們14支安打唷 低潮? XD 你有看比140.115.216.221 09/16 01:36
→ Bearcome:賽嘛140.115.216.221 09/16 01:36
推 alex1212boy:意思是1出局2壘有人跟0出局1壘有人~一118.169.225.230 09/16 01:36
→ alex1212boy:個賭後兩棒一支安打機率高還是後3棒2118.169.225.230 09/16 01:37
→ alex1212boy:隻安的的機率高118.169.225.230 09/16 01:37
→ Bearcome:這跟後面的人有關啊 YOYO點給詹智堯打140.115.216.221 09/16 01:37
推 wilsonno1:為啥後面要三棒賭兩棒...三棒賭一棒長打 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:37
→ Bearcome:根本是浪費出局數好嘛-_-140.115.216.221 09/16 01:37
→ wilsonno1:是不行喔? 講的好像長打不是安打一樣 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:38
→ alex1212boy:所以猿隊不會有線低潮的時候囉~請先看118.169.225.230 09/16 01:38
→ alex1212boy:我前面的推文!!118.169.225.230 09/16 01:38
→ wilsonno1:1out 2B打一支安打也不見得跑的回來 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:38
→ Bearcome:都領先四分了還怕低潮幹嘛...140.115.216.221 09/16 01:38
→ wilsonno1:搞不懂是要賭什麼 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:39
→ alex1212boy:都低潮了還賭長打~賭真大呀XD118.169.225.230 09/16 01:39
→ wilsonno1:真的低潮是連安打都擠不出來還擔心什麼 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:39
→ Bearcome:都得四分了 阿是有多低潮-_-140.115.216.221 09/16 01:40
→ alex1212boy:所以如果季後賽大家低潮了啥戰術都不118.169.225.230 09/16 01:41
推 wilsonno1:賭長打叫賭真大XD 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:41
→ alex1212boy:用作囉!等著怪保羅沒把大家調到高檔?118.169.225.230 09/16 01:42
→ wilsonno1:以我們的幾隻的打擊能抓到就有長打機會 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:42
推 Bearcome:如果全隊都低潮 或是投手戰 點誰會罵140.115.216.221 09/16 01:42
→ Bearcome:教練腦殘到不知道什麼時候要下戰術 這是140.115.216.221 09/16 01:42
→ Bearcome:很悲哀的一件事140.115.216.221 09/16 01:42
→ wilsonno1:我們低潮是連安打都擠不出來,還點啥 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:42
推 sadnight:你哪時候看到打線低潮大家怪保羅沒調好的 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:42
→ sadnight:先解釋一下強棒點給弱棒打這種賭機率還要 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:43
→ sadnight:賭比較小的蠢事吧 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:43
推 Bearcome:吉拉迪會在AROD低潮時叫他短打嗎?140.115.216.221 09/16 01:45
推 alex1212boy:也對~強棒不能點是猿迷的鐵律!118.169.225.230 09/16 01:46
→ Bearcome:好笑 獅迷看到高國慶點 牛迷看到林益全點140.115.216.221 09/16 01:47
→ Bearcome:象迷看到彭政閔點 一定會暴動好嘛-_-140.115.216.221 09/16 01:47
推 wilsonno1:哈哈 是要賭AVG 0.300 的還是0.200的? 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:47
→ wilsonno1:還鐵律勒XD 你會故意去猜機率低的那邊 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:48
推 ji31g42go61:不是猿迷的鐵律是所有球迷的才對!!! 220.136.28.46 09/16 01:48
→ wilsonno1:嗎? 又不是要買樂透 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:48
→ ji31g42go61:你有聽過加油聲是喊短打短打擺短棒嗎? 220.136.28.46 09/16 01:48
→ Bearcome:想看全員點球 請加入象迷的行列XD140.115.216.221 09/16 01:48
推 alex1212boy:所以我們2~6棒都不能點~不然紅中又要118.169.225.230 09/16 01:49
→ alex1212boy:被說腦殘了!118.169.225.230 09/16 01:50
推 wilsonno1:順便告訴你,中職0out 1B的得分期望值 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:51
→ wilsonno1:是0.86 1out 2B的期望值是 0.69 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:52
→ wilsonno1:點成功以後得分期望值還下降 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:52
→ wilsonno1:大概是嫌贏太多才會想要點不停吧 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:52
推 sadnight:要酸別人前先想想自己的理論站不站的腳吧 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:53
推 Bearcome:爪爪適合你140.115.216.221 09/16 01:54
→ sadnight:打擊率三成的你不賭你要賭兩成多的不被酸 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:54
推 alex1212boy:你別跟我說這期望直是大家都處在低潮118.169.225.230 09/16 01:54
推 ji31g42go61:總之就是不能點 除非幾乎點了還能上壘 220.136.28.46 09/16 01:54
→ alex1212boy:的時候XD118.169.225.230 09/16 01:54
→ sadnight:是當大家都傻了嗎? 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:54
→ sadnight:阿既然都低潮了你不賭機率高的偏偏要去賭 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:55
→ Bearcome:爪爪適合你 看長打這麼痛苦的話 去爪爪吧140.115.216.221 09/16 01:55
→ sadnight:低的賭性有堅強到這種地步喔( ′-`)y-~ 61.31.176.162 09/16 01:55
→ ji31g42go61:但很遺憾 我看了不少連偷點都騙不到人 220.136.28.46 09/16 01:55
推 wilsonno1:這個期望值是統計了大約200場比賽的結果 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:56
→ Bearcome:全員點球 一定讓你既期待又怕受傷害唷XD140.115.216.221 09/16 01:56
→ wilsonno1:你覺的低潮的球隊期望值會互相顛倒嗎?XD 122.120.2.43 09/16 01:56
推 alex1212boy:低潮時的打擊率會比平均值高嗎?不會顛118.169.225.230 09/16 01:59
→ alex1212boy:倒?還真肯定呢XD118.169.225.230 09/16 02:00
推 MinChuan:數據雖然不能看到全貌,也只能預測可能也 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:00
→ MinChuan:不會是百分百,但是棒球沒有時間限制, 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:00
推 wilsonno1:來算算看怎麼樣才會顛倒阿XD 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:01
→ MinChuan:在有限的出局數內把握進攻的機會,除非真 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:01
→ sadnight:原來大家都低潮的時候弱棒會反而比強棒強 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:01
→ wilsonno1:低潮是大家都降,是要怎麼樣才會顛倒XD 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:01
→ sadnight:高見高見( ′-`)y-~ 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:01
→ wilsonno1:還是1B有人就低潮, 2B有人就馬上高潮 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:02
→ sadnight:要跳針也跳的好一點好嗎? 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:02
推 ji31g42go61:其實我滿想用數據模擬看看啦~看打誰臉 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:02
→ MinChuan:的很高比例會出局(上壘率低),不然沒道理 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:03
推 alex1212boy:腦補?何時說弱棒會比強棒強?118.169.225.230 09/16 02:03
→ MinChuan:送出局數給別人,松出局數等於是加快比賽 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:03
→ MinChuan:結束的速度 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:03
→ MinChuan:我沒看到,但是我覺得你跳針的頗嚴重 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:04
推 ji31g42go61:還有啦!即使最會雙殺的也要幾場才一次 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:04
→ wilsonno1:j大可以試試看~但是很累吧XD 要逐場看 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:04
→ MinChuan:雙殺目前單季最高不過是23次 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:04
推 sadnight:你不是說低潮的時候打擊率可能會顛倒? 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:04
→ alex1212boy:不就是討論同樣低潮情況~有個0出局1壘118.169.225.230 09/16 02:04
→ wilsonno1:戰報~做統計...得分矩陣是最煩人的 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:05
→ sadnight:不然你先回答我都低潮的時候打擊率三成會 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:05
→ MinChuan:而且猴子強打者大部分都是飛球打者吧 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:05
→ sadnight:不會比兩成五的強好了 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:05
→ alex1212boy:有人~對你們而言弱棒能點強棒不能點!118.169.225.230 09/16 02:05
→ MinChuan:真的低潮的話基本上一樣爛 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:06
→ sadnight:如果三成的比較強那你還要他點給兩成五打 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:06
→ MinChuan:強棒點我只能說真的太客氣了 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:06
→ sadnight:不是資敵是什麼? 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:06
→ wilsonno1:低潮大家都低潮,數據都掉,我不懂要怎麼 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:06
推 oicecnir:打線低潮就要練點點是要笑破A人嘴哦 1.174.1.160 09/16 02:06
→ MinChuan:強棒要點那後面那個必須是怪物級強棒才行 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:06
→ wilsonno1:怎麼樣才會顛倒 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:06
→ sadnight:廢話!有三成的機率你不賭你要賭兩成多的 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:07
→ oicecnir:想看上太空的棒球也有錯嗎.. 1.174.1.160 09/16 02:07
→ oicecnir:一定要逼人看你愛看的殺豬公... 1.174.1.160 09/16 02:07
→ Bearcome:所以我說你不適合猿啊 你適合爪爪140.115.216.221 09/16 02:07
→ sadnight:除非有天眼通可以看到兩成多的一定安打吧 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:08
→ Bearcome:點點 鳥碰 往右半邊地上砍推進跑者140.115.216.221 09/16 02:08
推 ji31g42go61:其實我想吐槽一下Min大那不是好方法XD 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:09
→ oicecnir:人家國外死屍打線都沒在玩這招了... 1.174.1.160 09/16 02:09
→ wilsonno1:你告訴我每隔200場結果會不一樣我還會信 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:09
→ sadnight:同樣都低潮難道兩成五的就會比三成的會打 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:09
→ Bearcome:反正算數據對你來說太累了 看到有球員在140.115.216.221 09/16 02:09
→ sadnight:安打? 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:09
推 MinChuan:什麼方法?強棒點給超強棒? 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:09
→ Bearcome:二壘就可以讓你HIGH翻天了!140.115.216.221 09/16 02:09
→ wilsonno1:一年低潮才幾場? 占球季的1/2好了才60場 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:09
推 hopecity:用點練手感就是變成陳江和啊XDDDDDD123.193.116.225 09/16 02:10
→ wilsonno1:這是統計約200場(應該超過)的數據 122.120.2.43 09/16 02:10
→ MinChuan:我只是說強棒點的前提而已~ 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:10
→ oicecnir:就算你是問爪迷也一樣啦.. 1.174.1.160 09/16 02:10
推 ji31g42go61:對!點完了就會發現捕手站起來舉手了XD 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:10
→ oicecnir:最好他們會想讓恰恰和周董點... 1.174.1.160 09/16 02:11
→ MinChuan:但是後面如果是超強棒,那點還是資敵 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:11
→ MinChuan:畢竟只要一點,後方強棒的保護效果會消失 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:11
推 sadnight:舉個例子~你會要pujols點給Bonds打嗎XD 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:12
→ MinChuan:如果弱棒強棒都需要點,那還排打序幹嘛? 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:12
→ sadnight:正常攻擊這兩棒就能幹翻投手了吧XD 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:12
→ MinChuan:我已經自我吐槽了你還講幹嘛拉QAQ 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:12
→ sadnight:我只是要吐某個跳針的人而已XD 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:13
推 ji31g42go61:就是點了後面一棒還有得打嗎?XD 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:13
→ MinChuan:無論如何無視成績都要點,那基本上打線 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:14
→ MinChuan:決定就用抽籤就好了= 3= 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:14
推 sadnight:反正有人上壘就要點有沒有鋒哥在有差嗎XD 61.31.176.162 09/16 02:15
→ MinChuan:應該說排第幾棒有差嗎? 114.32.91.55 09/16 02:16
推 ji31g42go61:覺得不一定要動到那種矩陣啦...... 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:29
→ Bearcome:算那麼多有用嗎? 他的意思點球就是增加得140.115.216.221 09/16 02:31
→ Bearcome:分機會啊 你算再說他還是會說點球是對的140.115.216.221 09/16 02:31
推 ji31g42go61:但即使用模擬的還是少不了數據要跑QQ 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:32
→ Bearcome: *多140.115.216.221 09/16 02:32
推 ji31g42go61:也許得靠電動解決了!讓他去點點樂吧XD 220.136.28.46 09/16 02:33
推 ji31g42go61:不過也是啦!碰到死鴨子類型的確...... 220.136.28.46 09/16 03:18