[外絮] 年度名過其實第一隊

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標題[外絮] 年度名過其實第一隊

時間Mon Jul 20 19:21:24 2009

圖文網誌版: http://celestial114.pixnet.net/blog/post/26703718 原文: http://tinyurl.com/n2rj6c PG - Mo Williams, Cleveland: Williams was an All-Star in 2009, but no one really wanted him there except for Cleveland, it seems. The fans didn't vote for him, the coaches didn't think he was worthy of being an All-Star and didn't vote him as a reserve. He made it on because the Cavaliers' players and brass wouldn't shut up, so David Stern gave in and had him replace an injured Chris Bosh. Also, Williams went missing in the playoffs. Look at his averages, which were all down across the board compared to his regular season. He barely showed up against the Magic, shooting 40% from the field. He may make fantasy ball players happy, but in the real world of basketball, Williams is just a mediocre point guard with an itchy trigger finger and an inability to distribute the ball. 控球後衛 - 莫再提(Mo Williams): 雖然老莫順利成為2009明星賽的一員，但贊成這項決定的似乎只有小皇帝(LeBron James) 的騎士隊。球迷票選沒人甩他，甚至教練也認為他尚未夠班於是替補名單中也沒出現他的名字。你知我知獨眼龍也知史騰礙於天威莫犯的壓力下最後只好讓他代替了因傷退出的龍王(Chris Bosh)出賽。我們來看看這位射手在季後賽的表現，平均數據與季賽相比全面性的下滑，在對戰魔術時命中率40%的他完全沒有盡到護駕的責任。他或許能讓玩Fantasy的玩家開心，但在現實中他依舊只是個平凡的控衛，那個我們所熟悉的"莫不傳"。 (Dis)Honorable Mention - Baron Davis, LA Clippers: He has a lot of talent but the fact is he was signed to a huge contract to lead the Clippers and they ended up with the number one pick in the draft. 本位置遺珠 - 戴維斯(Baron Davis): 沒有人能否定他的天賦，但你要知道在球隊和他簽下了長約後，本季快艇卻拿到了選秀狀元。 SG - Vince Carter, Orlando: I initially had Tracy McGrady here, but felt that he's pretty properly rated at this point in his career. We're all aware he's done. Carter, on the other hand, is still very much overrated. The Magic were in the NBA Finals last year for a reason. They were good, and they had a solid lineup that created a lot of matchup problems. Then they traded away promising youngster Courtney Lee and Tony Battie for the 32-year old Carter and Ryan Anderson. And while Carter is better right now than Lee, his arrival meant the departure of Hedo Turkoglu, who was instrumental in the Magic's success. The Magic didn't want to go beyond the luxury tax, so they essentially got rid of Lee and Turkoglu and their ability to create matchup problems for Carter. One player is not worth such advantages. Especially an older shooting guard with a "me-first" attitude. 得分後衛 - 半人半神(Vince Carter): 我的第一個人選原本是麥蒂(Tracy McGrady)，但思考了後發現以他目前的狀況來說外界的評價尚為中肯。我們都心知他的生涯已將走到盡頭，而相較下他的表哥我卻認為始終被外界所高估了。魔術本季成功的打進了總冠軍賽，所憑藉的便是他們陣容所容易製造出的大量錯位。今夏他們卻把頗具潛力的Courtney Lee和Tony Battie拿去換來了32歲的飛人 Carter以及阿聯替身(Ryan Anderson)。的確當下Carter還是比Lee優秀，但飛人空降奧蘭多表示著魔術將留不住他們最重要的一塊基石 - 火槍兵(Hedo Turkoglu)。在不想跨過豪華稅門檻的情況下魔術被迫放掉了火槍兵和Lee，於是再也變不出他們過去製造錯位的強大戲法。只為了一名資深卻唯我獨尊的後衛來說這代價未免過大。 (Dis)Honorable Mention - Michael Redd, Milwaukee: Far too one-dimensional to be worth the max contract he signed in 2005. 本位置遺珠 - 麥克紅(Michael Redd): 過於單方面的身手實在不值他在2005年簽下的肥約。 SF - Shawn Marion, Dallas: Marion can thank Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash for this mention. Marion is a good talent and freakishly athletic, but he needs the right system to be useful, and really at no point was he worth the money that he was being paid the last few years. Once he was out of Phoenix, Marion became just a borderline power forward with Miami and then Toronto, albeit still a good defender. Maybe playing with Jason Kidd will help him, but that doesn't take away from how overrated he had been for so long in the league. 小前鋒 - 馬力安(Shawn Marion): 獲得此殊榮的馬力安可得記得感謝冷笑話(Mike D'Antoni)和奈許(Steve Nash)。他很有天賦，且有著異於常人的運動能力，不過只有在適合的戰術系統下他才能展現他的價值。過去幾年來他可以算是在詐領高薪。儘管他依然是出色的一把鎖，但離開鳳凰城的馬力安在熱火和暴龍一直只能算是及格邊緣的一般大前鋒。若能和接生小孩(Jason Kidd)搭配對他將有所助益，但依然無法掩飾他長期以來一直都被高估的事實。 (Dis)Honorable Mention - Corey Maggette, Golden State: Scoring machine, but he's not worth $50 million on a team loaded with swingmen and backcourt players . 本位置遺珠 - 麥格迪(Corey Maggette): 一部專門衝數據的得分機器在一支搖擺人和後場球員已人滿為患的球隊中並不值5,000萬美元。 PF - Anderson Varejao, Cleveland: Varejao does have worth in this league, he's a solid rebounder and has a lot of energy. But he's not worth the $50 million that Danny Ferry just gave him. Varejao is a solid role player being payed starter money in a league with a declining salary cap. That's a terrible equation for a team trying keep LeBron James in the fold. He's considered by some as a good defender, but as the league has taken a more hardline approach against flopping, his main weapon as a defender has become neutralized. Finally , if you're 6'10'' and can't average even one block a game, then you're really not a good defender. Kudos to his agent for showing once again that Danny Ferry is a terrible general manager. 大前鋒 - 米粉頭(Anderson Varejao): 米粉頭並非一文不值，他充滿著激情與能量並且是個紮實的籃板手，但他絕對不值他剛從 Ferry那騙來的5,000萬美元。在這個經濟不景氣各隊薪資空間都吃緊的環境中，他卻還能夠成為領先發等級薪水的角色球員，這對想要留下小皇帝(LeBron James)的騎士來說無疑是非常糟的一步棋。也有些人認為他是個出色的防守專家，但聯盟開始正視假摔的態度簡直就要了他的老命。何況若你6呎10吋高但平均一場卻送不出一記火鍋我想也不能算是很好的防守球員。這筆交易也再度突顯了Ferry當GM"實在很糟糕"。 (Dis)Honorable Mention - Zach Randolph, Memphis: Good points/rebounds. Terrible defender and teammate. 本位置遺珠 - 軟豆腐(Zach Randolph): 推: 得分、籃板噓: 防守、當隊友 C - Andrew Bynum, LA Lakers: Bynum is consistently getting hurt each year and when he does play he averages out at roughly 13 points and 9 rebounds. The Lakers had the opportunity to wait another year before making a decision on where to go with him, but decided to extend him by giving him $14.5 million a year for four years. He has talent, for sure, and has had a few good statlines. But Bynum has had absolutely nothing to do with the Lakers' success in the playoffs since he was drafted and he's really done nothing to prove he's worth such a contract. 中鋒 - 霸男(Andrew Bynum): 雖名霸男但其實他每一年都在受傷，而正常出賽的狀況下他平均數據約為13分9籃板。湖人本擁有觀望一年再做決定的機會，卻選擇以每年1,450萬美元的價格和他續約了4年。當然他有這個天賦，數據方面也表現的不錯，但實際上他的加入與湖人在季後賽的亮眼表現無關，同時他也沒有證明他的確值這份合約。 (Dis)Honorable Mention - Greg Oden, Portland: Is it too early to call him a bust? Ignore the injuries and just look at his fouls. Not good at all. 本位置遺珠 - 囧den(Greg Oden): 現在就稱他為水貨可能早了點，但就算我們忽略他的痛痛史並專注於他犯規方面的話... 快，是男人的恥辱。這個樣子是完全不行低。 ============================================================================== 以上非原po立場謝謝 -- ◣ ◢ HEY~~~HEY~~~CHAAAAARLIE~! 　。。。。。 ◢ ▁ ◣ ⊙ ⊙ ⊙ .◣ ▼▼▼▼ ㄟ◥ ㄧ◤ \▲▲▲▲ φ ◢ . \ . δ ./ㄨ \\/ˊ◥▄▄◤ \|/ㄑ ( ︶ ˋ\///\/. by Armour@joke -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.114.99.95 ※ 編輯: celestial318 來自: 140.114.99.95 (07/20 19:22)

推 bee12:PF怎麼可以忘記小歐........ 07/20 19:22

推 skitshady:VC有點說的太過份了他只是低調了吧? 07/20 19:22

噓 BrentRoy:純噓VC那段 07/20 19:23

推 lizard95:中前鋒真的是實至名歸!!!!大推!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07/20 19:23

→ lizard95:說敗嫩和米粉頭是薪水小偷一點也不為過 07/20 19:23

推 HeavyBlue:VC明明就很不錯 07/20 19:23

→ HeavyBlue:掰嫩薪水小偷？要說也下一季再來談吧 07/20 19:24

推 acmonkey:Mo不傳季賽打不錯耶 07/20 19:24

→ saten:VC這個球季的表現很OK吧.... 07/20 19:26

推 parkerwind:兩個騎士隊的~話說莫不傳的防守也是有問題的~ 07/20 19:26

→ parkerwind:VC不至於被貶成這樣吧... 07/20 19:27

噓 vince730828:Bye 07/20 19:27

→ mark0628:靠這記者怎麼寫的籃網要是沒VC我看爐主拿定了 07/20 19:28

推 KERPAT:推米粉頭跟MO不傳 07/20 19:28

推 TaiJi8:推VC那段高估 07/20 19:29

※ Paraguay:轉錄至看板 Mavericks 07/20 19:30

推 mark30204:中肯+1 07/20 19:30

推 godsaveme:看到激情與能量就笑了 07/20 19:31

噓 vincelee15:VC如果唯我獨尊數據不會只有這樣 07/20 19:33

推 Realthugz:VC過去也許有擺爛的時候但上球季絕對不是這樣的 07/20 19:33

推 kingroy:VC關鍵時刻的命中率不是還不錯嗎? 07/20 19:33

→ Realthugz:又是個印象寫作派 07/20 19:33

噓 Mr13r0wN:vc很威好嗎? 07/20 19:35

→ Realthugz:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hM_Ki-2b1E 07/20 19:35

噓 howsiao:VCVCVCVC 07/20 19:37

推 ajen619:霸男 07/20 19:41

推 hill2002:米粉頭的襪子真的很娘很噁心囧 07/20 19:43

推 hi770418:我絕得中肯 07/20 19:44

→ peter331:噓Carter那段，推米粉那段，所以只好給箭頭 07/20 19:44

噓 shumman:純噓VC~~ 07/20 19:46

推 chinhan1216:都很中肯 07/20 19:47

→ piercepaul:把這篇新聞留下來明年再看就知道中不中肯 07/20 19:49

→ lave70:...問題是這個應該就是只看這一季的 @@ 07/20 19:49

噓 hater4life:不同意SG和SF部分其他都非常中肯 07/20 19:50

推 CCTV5:不管怎樣都要扯阿聯替身 07/20 19:52

推 howsiao:瑪莉安被高估非常中肯 07/20 19:55

推 ando:這文章擺出來就是要讓球迷戰的 07/20 19:57

→ piercepaul:存起來了明年再來選一次 07/20 19:58

→ thoraxe:Marion本人似乎也高估了自己... 07/20 20:01

→ Magicwind:只有我一個人覺得遺珠比較名過其實嗎? 07/20 20:04

→ hero0730:VC這個球季絕殺很精采呀! 07/20 20:09

噓 hotcom:............純噓VC 07/20 20:09

推 YamagiN:Marion在天下第一控季中被交易到尼克那季也有20分10籃板 07/20 20:10

→ hotcom:他根本沒看VC比賽 suck 07/20 20:10

→ otaku690:說VC "me first" attitude 就知道作者沒在看比賽 07/20 20:11

推 unclelan:作者誰阿實在沒內容..... 07/20 20:17

噓 MoonSkyFish:同意樓樓上 07/20 20:18

→ lave70:像這種年度隊伍要蟬聯恐怕不容易XD 每季都會有一些人陷入 07/20 20:20

→ lave70:大低潮~ 07/20 20:20

噓 starcry:VC那段在寫殺小? 07/20 20:24

推 yitong52:不管VC有沒有被高估他下季在魔術這種機會要把握住啊!! 07/20 20:25

→ lave70:同時也可能會有人谷底反彈~ 07/20 20:28

噓 clkdtm32:VC那邊在寫什麼我看作者自己也不知道吧 07/20 20:33

噓 Yocoldagain:純噓VC那段 07/20 20:36

→ Yocoldagain:魔術一定會比去年強 07/20 20:37

→ Yocoldagain:明年的今年 07/20 20:37

噓 jellychen:這作者是誰...看不懂再寫什麼 07/20 20:39

推 swangs:說實在的啦以後有錢Lee再簽回來就好了 07/20 20:40

→ swangs:現在養大了年薪要很高那還不是留不住 07/20 20:41

噓 MaxLJ:純噓拜男那一段，湖人去年要是沒有拜男統治禁區，早就輸了 07/20 20:41

→ MaxLJ:不過VC那一段倒是蠻中肯的，表兄弟都是只靠天份不練基本功的 07/20 20:42

推 ooo15434:沒霸男是會輸給誰..... 07/20 20:49

推 hahi:明明就是中肯文.... 07/20 20:50

噓 jcshie:噓VC那段 07/20 20:51

噓 Verlander35:VC.... 07/20 20:53

推 IntelC2D:VC中肯... 07/20 20:57

噓 WebberGood:VC靠天份沒基本功? 沒基本功怎麼能打10幾年NBA.. 07/20 21:03

噓 Seadogking:純噓 Marion 這段 07/20 21:04

噓 dioib:vc真雖小... 07/20 21:05

噓 clkdtm32:還在講火槍兵在卡特來之前他就說要走了真會牽拖 07/20 21:05

噓 Seadogking:把 Marion 列在SF還說他只有一般大前鋒數據~? 這殺洨 07/20 21:09

→ seikuo:麥克紅..... 07/20 21:10

噓 vince0713:噓VC 07/20 21:12

噓 shan78727:噓VC那段 07/20 21:15

噓 Laban:Tony Battie都30幾了好一個有潛力 07/20 21:18

噓 MoonSkyFish:火槍兵會走跟vc無關... 07/20 21:21

推 mko0:原PO是無辜的....XD 07/20 21:25

推 badprince:恩 just wait&see 07/20 21:25

噓 vinsanity67:頭噓就獻給VC那段了科科 07/20 21:26

→ julianscorpi:麥克紅是啥鬼... 07/20 21:36

推 DTruffy:騎士快把老莫交易掉啊~~~ 07/20 21:43

噓 rock790817:我覺得很爛 07/20 21:45

噓 Ilovemama:鳥肯... 07/20 21:46

推 rd24:推米粉頭 07/20 21:50

噓 JoeJohnson:純噓Marion的部份 07/20 21:50

推 nuclear:中肯推 07/20 21:52

推 PaulChris:幫補~~~ VC跟Marion那段其實... 不中肯@@ 07/20 21:53

噓 love210363:PTT頭噓，VC哪裡被高估了!? 07/20 22:00

推 afdm1234:只有VC那段中肯..其他的原本評價就是還好...何來高估 07/20 22:11

噓 Reyyy:VC這幾年的表現一點都不愧對籃網 07/20 22:11

推 betterorange:鍾肯推 07/20 22:19

推 henry12:寫的不錯但是有些點需要再討論 07/20 22:27

噓 Dolan:純噓Marion被高估 07/20 22:28

噓 OGoTTe:廢文 07/20 22:29

噓 fatsooo:...bye 07/20 22:33

推 luisfan:噓VC那段，MARION高估很中肯。 07/20 22:34

推 Jotarun:這年頭翻譯也要被噓 07/20 22:40

噓 IarrowE:純噓VC那段 07/20 22:42

推 gaiaesque:快要歸零了....XDD 07/20 22:43

推 skitshady:幫補啦原PO平時人很好這篇她有說非他立場啦~ 07/20 22:52

推 kosha:MARION那段中肯阿 07/20 22:54

噓 XBUCKXMR:Michael Redd一句話帶過?? 他只是咖衰小受傷而已... 07/20 22:57

噓 boy80421:5個裡面3個跟我看法差很多=噓 07/20 22:58

噓 XBUCKXMR:先發只有Mo和米粉頭講的中肯而已阿 07/20 22:59

噓 BrentRoy:挑一下外絮翻譯吧( ￣ c￣)y▂ξ 07/20 23:06

→ chadgege:哪個球員不需要在適合的戰術體系下打球，寫得很有笑點 07/20 23:13

推 king12272:VC跟Marion那段真是太中肯了忠言逆耳 07/20 23:18

→ popstarkirby:Redd超衰... 07/20 23:25

噓 CaspianY:也想知道是誰評的，VC連續三年三分球命率僅次ALLEN 07/20 23:32

推 badprince:僅次於Allen? 這沒有吧 = =|| 07/20 23:34

→ CaspianY:好像是4成全部只有他和ALLEN達到 07/20 23:34

→ badprince:VC的數據其實都是還不錯但沒什摸是特別傲人的 07/20 23:37

→ badprince:但就是因為他很無私他是個team player 07/20 23:37

推 fantasyeagle:說實在，連續11年得分20+ 是挺傲人的.... 07/20 23:40

推 v00001:原po無辜幫推 07/20 23:48

→ badprince:來了VC 走了Hedo,Lee 這會變強嗎會有疑問也是正常的 07/20 23:48

→ badprince:但是事實終會證明一切的不管是好還是壞耐心的看吧 07/20 23:49

推 chieher:幫推原po 說VC太過分了 X"D 07/20 23:53

推 bin921:我一想到FB第一輪選到香妹就恨的要死 07/20 23:55

推 leegi28:因為沒排我心愛的踢妹所以推一個 07/21 00:06

→ DrRossi:中肯 07/21 00:22

推 takuminauki:火槍能做的 VC絕對都作得到 07/21 00:28

推 OGoTTe:回來補推了 ~ 07/21 00:40

推 TaksNo7:教練：Phil Jackson 07/21 00:45

→ OGoTTe:看到VC被寫成唯我獨尊就很想噓 07/21 01:00

推 Gerrard1004:推~~~~~~~~~ 07/21 01:09

噓 h01234123:噓VC哪點比T-MAC差???誰比較肥?? 07/21 01:31

推 h780728:最後一句話讓我恢復理性改成按1 07/21 01:45

→ WinShot:最後一句應該放第一行 07/21 01:51

噓 a29657273:哀 vc那段看不懂 07/21 02:01

推 hoppenny:麥克紅...什麼鬼... 07/21 02:02

噓 ddaavvyy321:VC 07/21 02:07

推 AIPTT:雖說如此但還是得承認VC沒有成為當初大家期待的那麼強 07/21 02:11

→ AIPTT:但是說他自我中心就有一點太過了 07/21 02:11

→ AIPTT:其實魔術最可惜的是沒能留下Lee...他今年打的非常好 07/21 02:12

推 laypub:敗嫩那段太中肯了......他目前真的不值那份新 07/21 02:13

噓 KKB:獨你x... 07/21 09:18

噓 winkid:純噓VC那段，籃網迷絕對不認為VC名過其實自以為是的評論 07/21 10:23

推 ck930432:VC很好的，這其中一定有什麼誤會 07/21 10:37

推 naruto406:囧den...... 真有趣＝＝ 07/21 12:04

噓 tcvsie18:灌籃之神並不差~ 07/21 12:22

推 allanh:翻譯辛苦了 07/21 12:27

推 imjeffreylee:幹敗嫩居然有1450 歐等大概想自殺 07/21 13:26

→ lingjj:其實不用花力氣去翻這種廢文看到VC、Matrix和Oden出現就想 07/21 13:38

→ lingjj:噓米粉頭的大約是球季後才簽的也拿來說嘴軟豆腐雖然態度 07/21 13:40

→ lingjj:有問題但是當他能正常上場時快艇隊的戰績還不差 07/21 13:41

推 theservant:中肯 07/21 13:56

推 spihc:中肯 07/21 14:20

推 ncuatm:幫推只能說下次貼文要小心不然被噓的都是自己阿 07/21 15:10

→ ncuatm:另外原作者VC那段不知道在寫三小根本是個人成見... 07/21 15:11

噓 justlovepig:VC明明就打得不錯 07/21 15:17

推 ouch3:馬規第跟VC他竟然爵的馬規地比較好 07/21 15:43

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