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※ [本文轉錄自 KevinGarnett 看板] 作者: nogoodlaugh (別查我IP) 看板: KevinGarnett 標題: [外電]Why KG is the D.P.O.Y 時間: Thu Apr 17 15:21:27 2008 來源 : http://0rz.tw/433SN Have you seen the way Kevin Garnett plays defense? 你有看過KG防守的樣子嗎? You likely have, this season, quite a few times. All those national TV appearances, y'know? He probably blew your mind. You probably gave a little credit to the Boston coaching staff, appreciated Kendrick Perkins (finally in shape), and noticed that Rajon Rondo can be of some help when his gambles pay off. But then you'd come back to KG. 你可能在這季看過幾次 所有的電視台不斷播放著 讓你忘不掉他威猛的防守 但這樣你可能有點對不起 一樣居功厥偉的教練團 以及終於防守有點樣子的K-Perk 然後還得注意到 軟豆在他賭博性防守成功時也能幫上一點忙 但最後還是得將一切回到KG身上 Dirty, little secret here: Garnett was playing like this last season. And the year before. And the year before that. 不能說的秘密:KG只是作些跟上季一樣的事 或是跟上上季一樣的事 一直這樣拼命防守 He's always been this brilliant, but the league's most underappreciated and unheralded player has more or less been underappreciated and unheralded since winning that MVP award back in 2003-04. For one thing, factoring in his dominating mix of offense and defense, the man should have repeated as MVP in 2004-05, but he didn't have Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion next to (rather, a sulking Latrell Sprewell and an injured Sam Cassell), and he missed the playoffs. KG一直都是如此優秀 但身為聯盟中最被低估的球員 KG在03~04拿下MVP之後 還是多少有些被低估 看著KG那些在進攻跟防守都威猛到爆炸的mix KG 在04~05應該要蟬聯MVP 但KG身邊沒有 阿罵 跟 瑪莉安 (身邊只有要不到錢養家而不爽的spree 跟在球場邊騎腳踏車復建的外星人) 因此KG也提早放暑假 And, because voters often confuse "best player" with "best player who has the most talented teammates," someone else walked off with the award. But this didn't stop KG from playing his game, defending the way he always has, and doing it under a relative batch of anonymity that better suits ... well, nobody deserved the treatment he took in over his final three years in Minnesota. 因此 大家投票時 往往搞不清楚是要選最佳球員 還是有著好隊友的最佳球員 一些人因此輕鬆的拿到獎座 但這不影響KG的拼勁 還是作著他該做的 沒人比他更應該為他在明尼蘇達最後三年受的傷受到治療 Garnett has improved defensively this season, and that's mainly a function of Boston assistant coach Tom Thibodeau's machinations and his role on a team that can still put up a hundred points with KG taking just a half-dozen shots. So he has gotten better. But because we lazily value blocks and steals over sitting down and watching a player work defensively off the ball, we glossed over this man. In his prime, no less. Pity. KG 這季完全展現了防守的威力 主要原因是Tom Thibodeau讓KG在隊上扮演的角色 KG仍然可以出手幾次就得很多分數 但因為我們寧願去看火鍋跟抄截的數據 也不願意坐下來好好看看KG防守的表現 就這樣用讓數據說話 將KG遺忘 So herald Garnett for his accomplishments this season, including his role in taking a team that was 18th in defensive efficiency last season into its current position as one of the best (statistical, we still have a playoff run to take in) defensive teams of all time. 所以公布KG這季的成就時 記得把KG將一隻去年防守18名的球隊帶到第1名的事情算進去 And also remember that he's been doing this, without plaudits, for the longest time. 然後要記住 KG一直都默默的做著這些工作 但卻永遠聽不到掌聲... It's nice when someone gets something that they deserve. It doesn't mollify the sting, however, that comes with the recognition taking way too long to meander toward where it's supposed to go. 當一個人得到一些應得的東西時,感覺還不賴。 然而,這不能緩和KG的痛,這種痛來自於該受到的肯定被剝奪了太久 ,以致於在外蜿蜒曲折了太久而回 不到它該去的方向。這段by bri大~ (Also remember that Scoop Jackson voted for Josh Smith, the guy who is routinely abused by the men he's supposed to be defending, the next time you decide to click on one of Scoop's columns.) 別忘記Scoop Jackson這傢伙竟然投給賈許 下次要去看他專欄時 最好多考慮一下 -- 備胎界的霸主? 囧 那是什麼? /[]\ 還是備胎!! /\ NogoodLaugh -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.161.166.103 ※ 編輯: nogoodlaugh 來自: 118.161.166.103 (04/17 16:52) -- 備胎界的霸主? 囧 那是什麼? /[]\ 還是備胎!! /\ NogoodLaugh -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.161.166.103
mjsp99:Camby不也一樣,一個人啥都做足了,你卻說金塊失分多 04/17 16:55
mjsp99:而把這當成本季Camby不該蟬聯DPOY @@ 04/17 16:55
mjsp99:KG得沒話講,但不能說Camby因為金塊失分過多不能得 04/17 16:56
nogoodlaugh:Camby很好 但今年KG啥都做足之外 球隊防守也帶起來了 04/17 16:57
nogoodlaugh:今年KG沒到C's Camby還是會蟬聯 04/17 16:57
mjsp99:我知道啦...金塊快節奏本來就失分比較多... 04/17 16:57
nogoodlaugh:而且 獎也還沒頒發 這些都只是一些外電~ 04/17 16:57
mjsp99:KG跟Camby都應該放在同一等級來看....防守端 04/17 16:58
mjsp99:恩....就等著看結果吧 04/17 16:58
freijaking:不太懂如果KG拼命防守為什麼沒像以前年年12籃板上下 04/17 16:58
mjsp99:去年adidas沒幫Camby出紀念T...我還期待今年纏連會出紀念T 04/17 16:59
freijaking:KG一項不管戰績也年年拼命甚至洗板大家都知,不過這文章 04/17 16:59
nogoodlaugh:第一個 上場時間減少 第二 他有隊友了 04/17 17:00
mjsp99:不過今年KG的呼聲很大 orz... 04/17 17:00
mjsp99:哈哈...KG要哭了....有隊友了 ^^ 04/17 17:00
freijaking:真偏..執著防守Camby不可能低於KG,拿下12,3籃板3.6火鍋 04/17 17:00
freijaking:(因為Camby進攻端遠輸KG,他就是要防守,說到看誰誰拼命 04/17 17:02
piercepaul:不要只看數據= = 04/17 17:02
freijaking:防守,Camby也很容易想到)另外金塊每百次球權失分並不差 04/17 17:03
Darkside18:不是數據漂亮就是防守好...很多人都搞不清楚這一點 04/17 17:04
nazi76:標準的只看數據不看球賽 04/17 17:04
Darkside18:很多好的防守是從數據上看不出來的。例如:製造對方進攻 04/17 17:05
freijaking:幾個連推是怎樣,沒人會否定KG,說什麼惹到超塞迷? 04/17 17:05
bri:one of the best defensive teams OF ALL TIME! 04/17 17:05
JVG:淚推Battier..........沒有愛的防守高手 /-\ 04/17 17:05
Darkside18:犯規,讓人在非持球狀態時幾乎卡不到好位置拿球,卡位 04/17 17:05
freijaking:我覺得基本上KG會拿啦,但是幫camby拉票,幹嘛酸我說數據 04/17 17:06
Darkside18:讓隊友搶籃板,或是壓迫對方必須做出高難度的出手或切 04/17 17:06
nazi76:真偏..值著進攻James不可能低於kobe,拿下7.9籃板30分 04/17 17:05
freijaking:幾個推文看了真怪,我是真的疑問不知道嗆什麼.只看數據? 04/17 17:07
Darkside18:入後分球等等,這些數據都不會記載,但都是防守基本功 04/17 17:07
piercepaul:沒有針對你...只是覺得很多人只用數據比較... 04/17 17:07
CW4:傳統防守數據 參考性還蠻低的 04/17 17:08
piercepaul:感覺快變成板上風氣.. 04/17 17:08
freijaking:你們連續三人這樣推不覺得會酸到我嗎= = 不講了 04/17 17:08
nogoodlaugh:Garnett has improved... <---看一下這段吧 04/17 17:08
nazi76:我想問問F大...你有看過KG防守時候的樣子嗎?(比賽) 04/17 17:09
piercepaul:別這樣嘛 來我們握握手 04/17 17:10
nogoodlaugh:KG比賽時展現的防守 Camby一項不少 差別就在團隊罷了 04/17 17:10
freijaking:你有看過你推文的樣子嗎?我需要什麼比賽都看? 04/17 17:10
nazi76:酸還好吧 見仁見智阿 那我也可以說你酸KG不應該拿最佳防守 04/17 17:11
nogoodlaugh:Camby去年得到肯定了 今年就讓KG得吧~peace 04/17 17:11
freijaking:我完全沒否定KG..你們急著護什麼.. 04/17 17:11
ohnacl:小心發言 這裡可是NBA板 04/17 17:11
freijaking:你們是塞迷可以幫我解答我是疑問,你扯LBJ Kobe那例子? 04/17 17:11
nogoodlaugh:==================休戰 please===================== 04/17 17:12
nazi76:你覺得我酸我就先道歉囉 我可沒那個意思 我也很喜歡CANBY 04/17 17:12
mjsp99:KG好沒錯,但不要看低Camby,我相信很多人對Camby都是印象 04/17 17:12
nazi76: CAMBY 04/17 17:12
freijaking:酸不酸板友自己看囉, 這篇先停了 04/17 17:13
mjsp99:很會受傷...你知道本季只缺席3場喔...KG缺了10場 04/17 17:13
mjsp99:作別人進攻犯規...若有統計Camby絕對排前面...比賽看多就知 04/17 17:13
piercepaul:Ptt NBA板年度最佳防守球員: 別爭了反正也不是我們選的 04/17 17:13
mjsp99:我還是看好Camby會蟬聯機率多一點...KG也是有希望 04/17 17:14
mjsp99:這獎項誰得都OK的...只是...不要因此忽略掉別人的努力 04/17 17:15
mtx2001251:基本上今年 鐵定是KG了 04/17 17:37
※ 編輯: nogoodlaugh 來自: 118.161.166.103 (04/17 17:40)
SureHappy:獨善其身被刪掉了 好可憐的Camby....... 04/17 17:43
vvvvvip:KG才是MVP~~~他太無私了~~~快要成為完美球員了XD 04/17 18:02
AnimalFarm:請問每百次球權失分要到哪裡看? 04/17 18:13
jasonvan:賭博式抄截 火鍋 一樣可以把數據弄得很漂亮 所以防守好? 04/17 18:46
jasonvan:補防協防精準的對位這些有數據去評價嗎? 04/17 18:47
tiberian:會一直跑出這種外電就代表KG今年行情看漲,不是Camby不能 04/17 20:05
tiberian:拿,而是今年綠衫軍防守沒話說,聯盟也欠KG一個DPOY了 04/17 20:06
tiberian:以前在灰狼KG場上/場下失分差跟FG%差更大... 04/17 20:10
nwohippo:freijaking你支持金塊你也可找稱讚C的外電啊~何必激動呢 04/17 20:23
ddrew:KG有被低估嗎???? 04/17 20:41
DonNelson:To mjsp99:http://www.82games.com/charges0607.htm 04/17 22:54
DonNelson:是真的有統計的,不過這是上季的數據,這季的還沒出來。 04/17 22:55
mjsp99:靠邀...原來其他人這麼多喔 orz...難道都剛好被我看到@@ 04/18 00:05
mjsp99:第一名不虧是傳說中的假倒王 囧rz... 04/18 00:06
ColdStyle:只能怪金塊其他人防守太濫!!!!只有CAMBY在防守 04/18 01:40
Ayowaya:KG籃板變少原因很簡單 1. 現在隊上每個人都很積極拼搶 04/18 08:26
Ayowaya:和以前的灰狼是不一樣的 2. 上場時間比以前少太多了... 04/18 08:27
mea7211:要酸Nash 04~05年的MVP前也要搞清楚KG今年的處境和那年的 04/18 15:30
mea7211:Nash一樣 都換到了有優秀隊友的球隊 酸Nash根本在自打嘴巴 04/18 15:32
mea7211:而且KG是正值巔峰 Nash轉隊前的隊友也不差 他又被評估要開 04/18 15:33
mea7211:始下滑 Nash那年的MVP絕對比KG今年的年度最佳防守球員來得 04/18 15:34
mea7211:更站得住腳 04/18 15:36