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話說內科醫師對NSAID敬畏三分 Cre >1 能不用則不用 至於急診 動則Keto, Naposin Cre 1.8以上也st在用 因為查paper太累, 查查micromedex好了 用頂頂有名的indomethacin做代表 首先contraindication:(也就是絕對不能用沒有討價還價餘地) A) treatment of peri-operative pain in setting of coronary artery bypass graft (CABG) surgery (FDA, 2005) B) history of recent rectal bleeding or proctitis (indomethacin suppositories) C) hypersensitivity to indomethacin (FDA, 2005) D) neonates with active bleeding, infection, necrotizing enterocolitis, severe renal failure, thrombocytopenia, or coagulation defects E) patients who have experienced asthma, urticaria, or allergic-type reactions after taking aspirin or other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory agents; severe, even fatal, anaphylactic-like reactions have been reported (FDA, 2005) 沒有CKD喔, 上面只提到neonate 再看precaution: (也就是小心留意監控啦 有問題快停藥) A) increased risk of serious cardiovascular thrombotic events, myocardial infarction, and stroke; risk may increase with duration of use and in patients at risk for cardiovascular disease (FDA, 2005) B) increased risk of serious gastrointestinal adverse events (bleeding, ulceration, perforation of stomach or intestines) that can occur at any time and without warning; higher risk in elderly or debilitated patients (FDA, 2005) C) asthma (FDA, 2005) D) avoid in late pregnancy; may cause premature closure of the ductus arteriosus (FDA, 2005) E) dehydration F) elderly (FDA, 2005) G) epilepsy, parkinsonism, depression, psychiatric conditions H) history of coagulation defects (FDA, 2005) I) history of GI ulceration, bleeding or perforation (FDA, 2005) J) history of liver dysfunction (FDA, 2005) K) history of renal disease (FDA, 2005) L) hypertension, fluid retention, or CHF (FDA, 2005) M) preexisting anemia N) when treating patent ductus arteriosus, do not give subsequent doses if urinary output falls below 0.6 mL/kg/hr in response to indomethacin; resume therapy when renal function returns to normal 啊哈 出現了 列在這裡 Indomethacin用在腎差的人 FDA告訴你要小心監控 好吧 看看adverse effect 是啥 3.3.13 Renal Effects Drug-induced renal failure, acute Kidney disease Papillary necrosis Renal failure Urogenital finding 太多內容節錄重要者如下 In patients at high risk for renal failure, serum creatinine monitoring is recommended during the first several weeks of treatment to identify early changes in renal function. After discontinuation of the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID), renal function usually returns to pretreatment levels (小心監控 通常停藥會好) 這是FDA說的 CKD用少量NSAID如何? 看Dose adjustment in renal failure A) No dosage adjustment is recommended for patients with renal dysfunction or failure 這是因為indomethacin會經肝代謝成inactive metabolites 再60%由kidney排出 因此CKD病人就療效來說減量是沒意義的 當然這不代表CKD病人減量對腎沒有好處 至於NSAID究竟對腎造成何危害? Micromedex也有這麼一句話 Renal failure induced by indomethacin is most likely related to inhibition of renal prostaglandin synthesis by indomethacin 也就是它似乎造成腎動脈收縮而產生prerenal azotemia 並不是腎實質本身壞掉 這麼說來 NSAID對腎的壞處好像不是想像的這麼大 即使一時造成Cre升高在停藥後也有機會降回原值 不曉得大家怎麼想NSAID -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.125.68
sunil:其實外科也不愛用. 09/06 22:32
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: cAMP (呼.) 看板: NTUH-INTERN 標題: Re: [內科] 基本常識 時間: Sat Sep 6 03:18:49 2008 ※ 引述《atpsam ()》之銘言: : 話說內科醫師對NSAID敬畏三分 : Cre >1 能不用則不用 : 至於急診 動則Keto, Naposin : Cre 1.8以上也st在用 : 因為查paper太累, 查查micromedex好了 : 用頂頂有名的indomethacin做代表 話說... 提到Keto 結果查的是indomethacin會不會有點怪呢? 讓我們用一樣的micromedex查一下ketorolac好了 一樣查一下dosage in renal failure 1.3.2 Dosage in Renal Failure A) Ketorolac Tromethamine 1) Ketorolac is contraindicated in patients with serum creatinine concentrations indicating advanced renal impairment. In patients with renal impairment, the intravenous bolus or intramuscular dose of ketorolac is 15 milligrams which may be repeated every 6 hours or as needed to a maximum of 60 milligrams daily. For single-dose therapy given intramuscularly, the dose is 30 milligrams one time. For single-dose therapy given intravenously, the dose is 15 milligrams one time. Hypovolemia should be corrected before using ketorolac (Prod Info Toradol(R), 2002a). 2) Patients with a wide range of renal impairment demonstrated reductions in total plasma clearance and prolongation in elimination half-life after both oral and intramuscular ketorolac administration compared to healthy subjects. Reduction in protein binding in the renally impaired may also result in increased unbound ketorolac in plasma. Dosage reduction in indicated in the renally impaired patient (Buckley & Brogden, 1990). 那我們再看看contra-indication 1-17跳過 看18就好 18) renal impairment, advanced, or risk of renal failure due to volume depletion (Prod Info TORADOL(R) oral tablets, 2007; Prod Info ketorolac tromethamine injection, 2002) 再看一下adverse reaction部份 3.3.13.A.9 Renal failure a) Summary 1) Patients at greatest risk for acute renal failure include those with reduced blood volume or a decrease in renal blood flow. Also, patients with impaired renal function, dehydration, heart failure, liver dysfunction, the elderly and those taking diuretics have an increased risk for developing acute renal failure (Schoch et al, 1992; Corelli & Gericke, 1993; Smith et al, 1993). Acute renal failure has also occurred in younger patients and patients receiving only a few doses (Perazella & Buller, 1993). Renal function usually returns to baseline within a few days after stopping ketorolac (Corelli & Gericke, 1993). 所以.....還是要小心使用的 -- 提醒一下 會查micromedex真的是相當有求知的精神 該鼓勵一下 不過 要討論keto結果查的是indomethacin... 別拿明朝的劍斬清朝的官啊... -- "你的誠意在那?" "不知道" "你的良知咧?" "前一陣子掉了吧...你有看到的話...幫我跟它說一聲不用回來了.." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.125.84
minihair:也都還是pre-renal的問題 09/06 19:55