This thread has gone too far for me to keep up with.
I will not have more words other than the following
questions and comments. Please explain a little
more further the following because I either
disagree or do not understand them. This will
help other people to underatand your points, too.
Please remember, no offense. I don't want to have a war
because I want to quit on this subject and go back to work.
Hsuan-Yi Chen
: ※ 引述《Mapleseed (Unrequited Love)》之銘言：
: : 像很多管弦樂團的指揮
: : 會在樂團的前面大約一拍
Which conductors? Which orchestra? When? Where did you sit
during the concerts? Do you know how slow sound propagates from
the stage to the seats?
How, for example, to conduct "firebird" in this way?
How, for example, to conduct a slow classical mov. like the 3rd
mov. of Beethoven symphony #9 in this way?
: "拍點在樂團前面" 不是定律...
: 是看樂團跟指揮的默契或者約定...
: 不一定的...
I don't really understand this part. No conductor has ever
told me where is his downbeat. The downbeats do not always
"look the same" from one conductor, but I just know (for 99.99%
of time) where it is.
: btw...
: 不論你在錄影帶上看到什麼...
: 基本上那都是事後剪接的...
: i.e.
: 拍點的前後是看製作的工程師的高興...
: 未必真的是音樂原本的拍子喔...
Bad engineers! (perhaps)
We see the motion of the conductor, also the bowing of the strings,
or the body movement of the musicians. We should be able to tell
if the engineers did some strange thing (most of the time).
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