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p.1中 physical requirement 底下的那消最適生長溫度應該是針對某特定菌種 並不是那類細菌都是那個溫度最適吧? 是不是刪掉比較好? 不過這是小地方啦 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.csie.ntu.edu.tw) ◆ From: 140.112.212.60 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: yL206 (yL206) 看板: NTUmed89work 標題: Re: [建議] 微免No.3 時間: Sun Mar 2 21:58:40 2003 ※ 引述《chcl (耶穌 最好的朋友)》之銘言: : p.1中 : physical requirement : 底下的那消最適生長溫度應該是針對某特定菌種 : 並不是那類細菌都是那個溫度最適吧? : 是不是刪掉比較好? : 不過這是小地方啦 I hold a different view, according to the medical dictionary definition I found on the web http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/omd/ Published at the Dept. of Medical Oncology, University of Newcastle upon Tynec Copyright 1997-2003 - The CancerWEB Project. All Rights Reserved. this website is supported by one of the medical schools from England, should have some academical credibility. As an example Def of psychrophile- An organism able to grow at low temperatures and showing a growth temperature optimum of more than 15 degrees C. That is, any organism that satisfies the above description in general. So, 那一類細菌是對的,非某一特定菌種。 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: lprince (恢復旋轉) 看板: NTUmed89work 標題: Re: [建議] 微免No.3 時間: Sun Mar 2 22:52:49 2003 ※ 引述《yL206 (yL206)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《chcl (耶穌 最好的朋友)》之銘言: : : p.1中 : : physical requirement : : 底下的那消最適生長溫度應該是針對某特定菌種 : : 並不是那類細菌都是那個溫度最適吧? : : 是不是刪掉比較好? : : 不過這是小地方啦 : I hold a different view, according to the medical dictionary definition I found : on the web : http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/omd/ : Published at the Dept. of Medical Oncology, : University of Newcastle upon Tynec Copyright 1997-2003 - The CancerWEB Project. All Rights Reserved. : this website is supported by one of the medical schools from England, should : have some academical credibility. : As an example : Def of psychrophile- : An organism able to grow at low temperatures and showing a growth temperature : optimum of more than 15 degrees C. : That is, any organism that satisfies the above description in general. : So, 那一類細菌是對的,非某一特定菌種。 並不是這樣的... Those "degrees" are borderlines between the optimal growth temperatures of different thermo-specific bacteria groups. According to the website mentioned above, we call organism able to grow at low temperatures and showing a growth temperature optimum of more than 15 degrees C as "psychrophile"; organism living in the temperature range around that of warm-blooded animals, usually between 20-45 degrees C as "mesophile"; and organism that thrives at high temperature as "thermophile" The most extreme examples are cyanobacteria from hot springs that have optima of 50-55 degrees C and will tolerate temperatures of 90 degrees. Thus, those have optimum of 17 are still called psychrophile... > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: yL206 (yL206) 看板: NTUmed89work 標題: Re: [建議] 微免No.3 時間: Mon Mar 3 00:38:41 2003 Def Psychrophile: : : An organism able to grow at "low temperatures" and "showing a growth temperature optimum of more than 15 degrees C." : : That is, any organism that satisfies the above description in general. : : So, 那一類細菌是對的,非某一特定菌種。 : 並不是這樣的... : Those "degrees" are borderlines between the optimal growth temperatures of : different thermo-specific bacteria groups. And you said : Thus, those have optimum of 17 are still called psychrophile... You misunderstood me, what you said did not contradict with my sayings before. According to the definition, it is obvious that they were referring to a range of temperature degrees. Anyhow, what I meant was that I think you were referring to the type of microoganisms in this case that can fit the description above. We call that particular type or 那一類 of microoganisms-psychrophile, not in terms of some strains or species as chcl said.