[Wang] Balls in Play - by SG @ RLYW

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Balls in Play
by SG

The Yankees lost a couple of brutal games this weekend, both which should have
been wins. I didn't get to see Saturday's game thankfully, but did have the
misfortune of watching yesterday's. Chien-Ming Wang made his third straight
strong start, despite still not missing any bats. With a depleted 12 man pen
(I'm not going to include Ron Villone in the count since Joe Torre doesn't),
Wang gave his team everything they needed to win. Unfortunately, his offense
did not pick him up. He deserved better than he got.

洋基這週末輸了幾場慘烈的比賽，兩場都應該要贏的。 很幸運的我沒有看到禮拜六的那場
， 但是不幸的卻看到了昨天的比賽。王建民交出了連續第三場的優異表現，雖然還是沒有
讓打者揮空。 在其他十二名投手(我沒包含Ron Villone..因為很明顯的Torre 也沒有)都
燃燒殆盡的此時，王給了他的球隊他們所需要贏球的一切。但是很遺憾的他的隊友並沒有
給他足夠的支援。 他沒有得到應該的回報。


A lot has been made of Wang's inability to strike hitters out. I'm not
convinced that this is a huge problem if he can continue to control opponents'
extra base hits and continues to show good control. How big of a problem is it
to allow the opponents to hit the ball?

王沒辦法三振對手的能力持續被質疑。我並沒有被說服這絕對是個很大的問題，只要他能
夠持續的控制對手的長打以及持續展現穩定的控球。 讓對手打到球真的是個大問題?


The following ten pitchers are allowing the highest percentage of the batters
they face to put the ball in play (min of 50 IP).

以下的十名投手讓最高比例的球打入球場內 (最少要 50IP)

Wang - 84%
Silva - 83%
Johnson - 82%
Loe - 81%
Buehrle - 81%
Halladay - 80%
Wright - 80%
Janssen - 79%
Westbrook - 79%
Moyer - 79%

A pretty mixed list, with some prettyy good pitchers and some really bad ones.
However, as a group, they have collectively provided:

頗為混雜的一個名單，有些很不錯的投手也有些很鳥的。 但是全部加起來它們的表現是

821 innings
4.47 ERA
111 ERA+
144 HR+
159 BB+
66 K+
9.5 Runs above average

As a group, they have controlled HRs and BB, which has allowed them to succeed
to this point.

整體而言， 他們成功的壓制了全壘打並且壓低了保送次數，讓他們到目前為止頗為成功。

Out of these ten pitchers, Wang has been more valuable than all but Roy
Halladay (12 runs above average). He has a better HR rate than any of them.
Opponents are hitting .284 against Wang on balls in play this season, which is
low, but not as low as Buehrle, Halladay, Janssen, or Westbrook. He's induced
more double play grounders than any of them, and has the lowest slugging
average allowed amongst this group (.315).

在這十名投手中王目前的價值只比Roy Halladay低 (高於水準 12分。 他的 HR/9比任何人
都好。 王本季的BABIP目前是 .284 ， 這是偏低但是並沒有比 Buehrle，Halladay，
Janssen 或是 Westbrook低。 他的雙殺數比所有人都都高。 而且他在這群中的長打率也
是最低 (.315)

The point is that if you continue to focus on Wang's low K rate, you are
ignoring the other evidence that he can succeed doing what he's done to this
point. He will probably have more bad games than a pitcher who is less reliant
on his defense, but the good thing is when he's in a groove he retire batters
efficiently and go deep into games. With the way Torre manages a bullpen, this
can only be a good thing.

這裡的論點大概是你如果持續的注意王的低k/9，你會忽略了其他證明他目前為止的成績並
非好運的證據。 他大概會比其他的投手更容易被他後面的防守給搞砸比賽，但是他的好處
就是他發揮的時候他能夠很有效率的讓打者出局並且投到很後面的局數。 以Torre領導
Bullpen的能力來看。 這絕對事件好事  (譯者: XD...是說被Torre搞掉的比賽比較少嗎?
還是說拯救牛棚的能力?)

I hate interleague play by the way. Hate it. Pitchers hitting is an
embarrassment and ruins the flow of a game. The sooner this farce ends the
better.

還有，我討厭跨聯盟比賽。非常討厭。 投手打擊非常的丟臉並且毀掉的比賽的節奏。
這個鬧劇越早結束越好。

And the _____ Watch claims its latest victim, as Aaron Small has been DFA'd. I
feel a little conflicted about that, because I personally liked Small very much
and cannot ignore the fact that without his outstanding performance last year
the Yankees would not have made the playoffs. I'm glad he got a payday for that
effort, however, indicators were that it was a fluke, and his performance this
season seems to agree. If he clears waivers, he'll go back to Columbus and try
to figure things out. I wish him well regardless of what happens from here on
out.

討論到小先生的部份... 沒力氣翻了XD


I'm actually pretty happy with the roster right now, although I still think
Kevin Thompson deserves a spot on the team. I'd also like to see them get down
to 12 pitchers, although I'm curious to see Jose Veras in action

討論到Roster..也沒力氣翻了XD

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在Comment部份中有幾段有意思有關小王的部份。

BP's #4 comp for Wang is a 26 year old Kevin Brown, who was as we now know on
the verge of becoming a dominating pitcher. Like Wang, at that stage in his
career, Brown had poor K/W rates, but the next year he improved the K/W and his
performance dramatically (and lastingly). Obviously, there are a lot of Wang
comps that are a lot less encouraging, but given his velocity, and the fact
that he subjectively seems impressive to opposing hitters, I have a hunch we
could see a big step up from him at some point (assuming no return of the
injury problems).
Fred Vincy | Email | Homepage | 06.19.06 - 12:20 pm | #

BP的王建民比較名單中第四順位是同年齡時的Kevin Brown, 而我們知道他在這個年齡時
開始從好投手跨越到巨投。 Brown在他那階段的生涯中的 K/bb 比也很糟糕， 但是下
一年他改善了他的 K/bb比率然後就大幅度的(並且持久的)進步。 當然，王建民大部分
其他的比較都頗為悲觀，但是考慮到他的球速，以及對手打者對他的評價，我的預感是
他遲早會大爆發。 (假設受傷問題不再繼續出現)



還有一段比較搞笑的 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Dear Mom,
I will be coming home soon,they have started throwing me curveballs.
Love,Your son,
Melky
Melky Cabrera | Email | Homepage | 06.19.06 - 11:28 pm | #

親愛的媽媽:
我很快要回家了，他們開始對我投曲球。
愛您的兒子
小卡步


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推 Ksp:請問最後一段是在酸卡布最近的打擊嗎？
推 hornets1221:為什麼投曲球就要回家?好好笑XDDDD
推 eyelace:卡布阿 卡布  最近都追打變化球XD
推 poqwer:感謝翻譯，也期待建民大爆發!
推 RollingWave:是在說在這樣鳥打下去很快就要回小聯盟了吧XD
推 cplinn:我也超討厭跨聯盟比賽  Orz
推 gerkk:推翻譯, 翻的真好
推 Tzylu:XDDDDD小卡布
推 sangokumosu:推一個
推 RollingWave:讓我想到以前那老電影大聯盟中的Sorano..XD
→ RollingWave:Jesus can't hit a curveball XD
推 pathfinder:最後一段好機車 XDDDD
推 smallken0410:小卡布真孝順
推 yoMiyazaki:我到是很疑惑國聯的投手都如何生存的......
推 Seapoint:推:>
→ yoMiyazaki:為何一定要有個聯盟讓投手上去獻醜= =
推 Pumpkins:最後一段有好笑到
推 Tzylu:我是覺得國聯的存在也是有有另一翻樂趣阿畢竟還是有很多人喜
→ Tzylu:歡投手打擊這種傳統
推 chien533:小卡布的媽應該會覺得很囧>
推 YANKS:我很快要回家了，他們開始對我投曲球..(對不起 我笑的囂張)
推 JasonGiambi:最後一段好好笑XDDD
推 jww:那句是說可以讓torre少用一點牛棚吧
推 Kati:翻得很棒～
推 coldmoon:請問BP的比較名單要去哪個網站查詢呢?
→ RollingWave:http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ 但要錢
推 lukehong:最後一段 PH值有夠小
推 coldmoon:要錢 :X  這樣就不知道其他比較的四個投手是誰了
推 circadian:感謝翻譯，最後一段酸小卡布真有趣
推 lpslps:最後一段太好笑了...XD
推 MMCloud:一個21歲的MLB新人已經展現了超乎預期的選球能力
→ MMCloud:也許最近打擊率是下滑不少，可能真的不應該繼續打第二棒
→ MMCloud:個人還是覺得多一些耐心和支持，會比這種沒意義的酸人好..
推 RollingWave:那基本上只是開玩笑的 ;)
推 HansLee:好文, 謝謝翻譯!!
推 bigsun0709:罩門被發現了..這在MLB很正常的!不加油的話就只有洮汰
推 ljuber:說得也是  他才21歲 還會成長...
推 Boyzone:這篇為什麼不轉小王版?  一定要轉啦...
推 RollingWave:因為不完全在討論王..而且王版..XD..要轉的話就轉吧我
→ RollingWave:沒意見
推 Boyzone:R大你可以自己轉嗎? 我覺得轉王版可以讓鄉民心情紓解一下
推 redeye621:打者對小王的評價參考性不高吧
推 JackeyChen:哈 最後一段 我笑翻 感謝翻譯