[轉錄][外電] Wang-o-Rama: All Hail the King?

[JilSander (Doer brokenheart)]

※ [本文轉錄自 CMWang 看板]

作者: akainorei (我是Babyface澳客) 看板: CMWang
標題: [外電] Wang-o-Rama: All Hail the King?
時間: Wed Sep  5 13:26:44 2007

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Wang Chien-Ming is the king of Taiwan.



Wang, whose name literally means ‘king’ in Chinese, is Taiwan’s most
revered and loved celebrity. The New York Yankees’ #1 starter is the first
Taiwanese celebrity to achieve widespread international recognition (with the
possible exception of filmmaker Ang Li, Madame Chiang Kai Shek and
actress/Penthouse centerfold Hsu Chi), and a source of national pride every
time he takes the hill for the storied New York Yankees.

And what’s not to love about a player that has emerged as the ace of the
world’s most successful baseball franchise, finished second in the AL Cy
Young voting to Johan Santana in 2006, starts charities to benefit
underprivileged kids in his free time, and has even had the courage to
boycott the bloodthirsty and reckless Taiwanese media since moving to New
York?

Owing to his unusually composed demeanor, seemingly incorruptible personality
on an island notorious for political corruption, and celebrity cache (that
gives Taiwan the rare occasion to stick it China as the mainland siphons off
its jobs and challenges its statehood), Wang takes center stage on a daily
basis on the TV and in the papers. As a result, without a costly mlb.com
package, baseball fans on the island have to get used to the following order
of priorities: Wang Chien Ming first, The Yankees second, and baseball third.

Wang fever in Taiwan can reach absurd levels. ESPN in Taiwan re-runs every
game he pitches in 4 or 5 times in a week, while remaining Yankee games
broadcast two to three times a day while the vast majority of MLB games go
untelevised. For fans on the island interested in the bigger picture of the
game, pennant races, or teams outside of the AL East, it can get vexing
watching the Taiwanese media lavish more attention on a single start from
Wang (or Wang having a conversation with Ron Guidry in the dugout) than it
does on, say, Barry Bonds breaking the all-time home run record. Save for the
occasional Red Sox game featuring Matsuzaka, or a even rarer Dodgers game
where Hong Chih Kuo invariably gets lit up, Yankees games are by and large
the only exposure fans get to MLB.



One can well imagine the stunned silence, general confusion, and silent
facial contortions of protest (as well as nasty emails) I get from Taiwanese
baseball fans when I make the following outrageous claims: Wang at this stage
of his career makes a very good #2 pitcher for a successful rotation but has
not yet developed the qualities of a true staff ace, the jury is still out on
his long term value, and the oft-cheerleading media and fans have jumped the
gun a bit by placing Wang in the top tier of starting pitchers in MLB. I also
get jeers when I suggest that fans in Taiwan, due 24/7 exposure in the media,
conflate Wang’s historical and cultural importance with his actual talents
on the field. Wang’s demeanor, high winning percentage, and league-best
sinker certainly give him the potential to be mentioned in the same breath
with Webb, Sabathia, and Johan, but he’s not there. Not yet.

Naysayer! Cynic! Playa Hater! (being pelted with stinky tofu)

First off, a fair assessment of Wang’s ability has to point to stats beyond
his W-L record. Wang’s win totals are highly inflated due to an inordinate
amount of run support—nearly 7 runs per game (6.8)—and excellent defensive
support (The Yankee defense behind Wang, didn’t allow an unearned run in 47
consecutive innings, the longest such streak for a Yankee pitcher since the
Elias Sports Bureau began tracking the stat in 1913). Every time Wang takes
the hill the Yanks spot him 7 runs and never make any errors. This is a
recipe for putting up a lot of wins regardless of who is on the mound.

Or, to quote a Seattle Mariners scout in Taiwan who tried to sign Wang before
he ended up on the Yankees, “take Wang off the Yankees and put him on a
weak-hitting team, and he’s a .500 pitcher”.

Wang has other attributes that suggest that some of the fawning over his
performance thus far might not be warranted yet. This year, left-handed
hitters are hitting .283 against him. Since the All-Star break this year,
Wang the king has put up a respectable 7-2 record, but has an average E.R.A.
(4.50) and hitters are opposing hitters are hitting .296. Due to his high
ground ball percentage, a lot of these runs get cancelled out in double
plays, but putting that many runners on base could be a recipe for trouble
come playoff time.

In fact, Wang’s stats this year are eerily similar to those put up by Greg
Maddux at age 41, whom most statisticians and fans would describe as having a
decent but unspectacular season in the twilight of his career. Maddux is
regarded as the Padres #3 starter, certainly not their ace at this point.
While it might not be the only factor in the equation, the extra 2 runs per
game Wang receives in run support from the Bronx Bomber offense surely plays
a big part in the 6 game difference in the win column:

Wang 166.1IP, 16 wins, 6 losses, 3.79 ERA, 86 K’s, 45BB’s, 1.27 WHIP
Maddux 168.2IP, 10 wins, 9 losses, 3.79 ERA, 89 K’s, 21BB’s, 1.20 WHIP

That’s not to say Wang doesn’t have the capability to be a true ace, in
fact, he’s nearly there. With the league’s best sinker that Yankees
pitching coach Ron Guidry compares to trying to hit a shot put, and a 96 MPH
heater, there’s no denying the talent is in place. He’s young, he’s
already won a ton of games, and has room to grow. But he’s not all the way
there yet, and often times this gets lost in the shuffle as the Taiwanese
media clamors to put up yet another full-page spread singing his praises.

__________________

More important than these statistical comparisons, the Taiwanese media,
notorious for fabricating news stories and desperate to sensationalize
anything they can in order to gain ratings–more than the unassuming Wang
himself– can be blamed for the premature overhyping of the man of the hour.
In Wang you have a highly marketable, good looking, reputable celebrity that’
s tailor made to sell papers and merchandise.

But in the end, Taiwanese baseball fans, who might care more about the game
itself with exposure to different teams, lose out in the end due to the
disproportionate amount of airtime lavished upon Wang at this early stage in
his career. They almost never get to see NL teams. They don’t get to see
Pujols, Santana, Hanley, or even Bonds. This deprives them of the joy of
seeing all the game’s stars, the thrill of pennant races, the ability to
view baseball from a more objective perspective, and the perspective to see
Wang within the greater overall context of the game.

Because of Wang’s success in pinstripes, Taiwanese fans have almost without
exception embraced the Yankees as their favorite team. From an overall
standpoint, if what matters to Taiwanese fans is that Wang has put Taiwan on
the map and given them something to cheer for after a long day at the
factory, that’s great.

真是中肯又帶點殘酷的報導

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推 leonardoyeh:這人對台灣還真有研究....
推 mooby:把王跟舒琪比............................................
推 jrshiun:還跟蔣介石比
推 linnx:被拿來跟那幾個人比... 除了李安 其他的... orz
→ linnx:那個應該是蔣夫人
推 akainorei:不是, 是蔣介石夫人
推 beast1969:這是華人媒體嗎?
→ akainorei:不過他說台灣媒體還真的是夠中肯
→ stephanie061:怎麼會有舒淇
推 Sabel:有點諷刺意味呢
推 szuyuancheng:舒琪好像有上過TIME的封面
噓 Aldousphyx:中肯? 這種廢文就別po了 不僅酸王還酸台灣人
推 homgor:就是宋美齡啦
→ vanprasth:Padres的前兩號先發是Peavy C.young 而且聯盟不同
→ akainorei:我不認為是廢文,而且他也沒酸王,王本來就還有進步的空間
→ vanprasth:這樣比實在很奇怪
推 Sabel:Penthouse centerfold Hsu Chi 並不是多光榮的事情 囧
→ Aldousphyx:他最後一句還暗指台灣多工人階級(井底之蛙) 不廢?
→ Aldousphyx:他被一些比較不理性的台灣球迷用e-mail騷擾
→ Sabel:其實這篇諷刺意味很濃呀，看標題就知道了
→ Aldousphyx:就用這種方式報復 實在很好笑
→ PLAYMYCUNS:這篇如果是中文且是XX報的話應該是滿是噓^.>
推 sxxs: 老實說這篇很看不起台灣人..諷刺太明顯了
推 unidon:樓上，我也對他最後一句不以為然，但批評王的部份倒是覺得
→ DK2s:酸王才會紅阿 就像外國也有專門酸阿肉的 笑笑就好
→ akainorei:他那段你可以去他的blog罵,我轉是注重他說王的那段
→ akainorei:老實說後面那段我也不喜歡
推 tsuchan:說的是事實 但是讀完感受真的不好~
推 kauw:台灣人本來就瘋狂 去官網看看 難怪反王的越來越多..
→ Aldousphyx:披王沒關係 一個運動記者有啥資格去評他國人民
→ unidon:還好，反正王就是年資還淺，run support又多，又是黃種人。
→ akainorei:況且轉這篇我們就知道去哪糾正那些記者對台灣的錯誤印象
→ kauw:王一贏就把以前說王不好的文章翻箱倒櫃拿來戰 何必呢?
→ kauw:挺王就算了 還順便酸老派 HUGHES 這樣只會更多反王的..
→ sxxs: 恩...批王在運動上的領域無所謂  其他就真的over了...
→ kauw:別忘了 老派 大帝再怎樣也是美國本土子弟..
推 scjh123:台灣人在網路上好像做過不少丟臉到國外的事.....
→ akainorei:我轉外電沒辦法斷章取義吧, 全部轉讓大家看阿
→ scjh123:對美國"一人一信"好像好幾次..又常到日本2ch鬧...
→ kauw:老實說跟韓國人心態差不多 :急著想要別人肯定..尤其是美帝.
→ kauw:怕別人不肯定自己?
→ Aldousphyx:少數的無理性球迷有嚴重到讓他批判整個國家的人嗎?
→ akainorei:我在強調一次,我轉這篇是讓大家看國外記者的報導
推 Nilthoron:最後一句很看不起人
→ Aldousphyx:他的肚量也太小了吧.看到這篇整個中餐差點吐出來
推 kauw:Aldousphyx兄 世界就是這樣 一些韓國人做的事還不是全韓承擔?
→ akainorei:不爽他,可以去他的blog罵,我個人是只看他講王的那一段
推 Sabel:推樓上，這篇批得太厲害，有點over
→ Sabel:我要推樓上上
→ DK2s:這篇算啥 去洋基官網討論區看就知道 連送王回china的文都有了
推 unidon:種族優越感作祟吧。中心/邊緣，而且兩者都表現得像在那個位
推 sxxs: 拿台灣跟韓國比 LP 比雞腿?
→ unidon:置的時候，這種關係又持久加深下去
→ sxxs: 韓國作風不是一天兩天的爛.....
→ Aldousphyx:那種球迷氣話我都能忍受 一個專業運動記者也來這套?
推 kauw:正常吧 洋基是美國棒球貴族世家 要他們接受黃種人當ACE..
→ sxxs: 沒人在罵原PO啦   = ="""
→ kauw:他們心中很難接受吧 王可要比別人多很多實績..
→ sxxs:蠻認同Aldousphyx的話....
→ unidon:即便再讓王投個好幾年的好球，還是不會改變那些人以中心為
→ unidon:傲/基準的心態
推 akainorei:American Supremacy, shrug, 這也不是一天兩天...
推 kauw:官網文章看多了 覺得有點恐怖 ...要是王低潮久一點不知會怎樣
推 Sabel:認同Aldousphyx的話，覺得這個記者有點公報私仇
→ kauw:不過也不止王 井川也是 還有人要他去整容 人家HUGHES帥加分阿
→ kenro:井川的長相..嗯..連日本人都覺得小王帥多了 拿他不準啦..
推 mithrander:factory...顯然他認為台灣還是第三世界國家...
推 scjh123:大家應該可以體會日本人看到台媒"公開"酸松板的心情了ＸＤ
推 kauw:我好奇的是王為何會變成除AROD了外 洋基板戰神? @@
推 sxxs: 連這個也要扯松阪...可以別再出現他了嗎
→ kauw:王現在已是輸也被戰 贏也被戰... 冏..
推 sugarcain:他寫的非常好啊  欣賞極了 對台灣很有研究+1
推 Nilthoron:樓上你不覺得他最後一句很靠背嗎 擺明看不起人
推 wjc:我怎麼想到"不招人忌是庸才"這句話了.....XDDDDD
推 McRay:MLB是美國人建立的，王在他們的地盤投球，他的批評當然帶有
→ McRay:身在優位的驕傲..
推 harrywu0620:王會被戰跟自以為看球十多年卻愛孤唱心得文的某人有關
→ McRay:如果今天建立這個優秀體制(MLB)是另一個族群，建立者還是會
→ harrywu0620:尤其是打線不振、輪值不穩時，牠的心得文就要來了
→ McRay:用類似的語氣批評其他族群的加入者
→ harrywu0620:王是體育人，看體育報導即可，一些阿撒不嚕的文自己看
→ harrywu0620:可不po，網路上部分blog或是不入流媒體的討論看看就好
→ james60338:個人認為這篇文章不是很值得參考，記者的故有成見太深
→ james60338:去看看他的BLOG就可以略知一二了
→ DARKSEVEN:文章評王沒關係，但把台灣人也拉下水只能說莫名奇妙了
→ Aldousphyx:我很聽話的去他的blog回點沒水準的東西 大家見笑了..
→ butiloveyou:中肯個鬼咧.評台媒OK.評王的部份一整個主觀..
→ Aldousphyx:署名dislike 原本是想用更強烈的字眼 還是低調點好..
推 Sabel:Andre也回得很好呀，兩個都是樓上回的嗎？
噓 karater:這哪是外電阿 這是台灣人寫的英文部落格啦
→ Aldousphyx:沒 我只回他上面那一篇..
→ Aldousphyx:他不是台灣人 只是住在台灣
→ cadream:東方主義 這箇作者
推 chrislux:蔣宋美齡可能是最有名的chinese
推 chrislux:我也覺得是中肯而殘酷 他說的是事實
→ chrislux:感覺跟最近板上在討論的勝投，還蠻有關係的
推 goodptt:這真的是外國人嗎?還有 台灣現在工廠不多了吧 都小公司多
推 JilSander:借轉洋基板
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推 sausagecool:官網留言版 王被批的很慘說...
→ DK2s:什麼王會偷取其他投手的運氣...官網討論區連這都有了
推 RKain:為何會被批......- -"
推 XXMADXX:因為台灣鄉民把小王神話了....
推 sausagecool:還有人要WANG滾回CHINA
推 coolhunt:偷別投手的運氣..乾脆說王是巫師算了
推 xsonic:照官網討論區的素質 會有這種文章一點也不覺得奇怪 :p
推 scjh123:a-rod跟wang真的是官網討論區的2大主要戰文XD
推 XXMADXX:王被批主要還是美國鄉民不爽台灣鄉民 把情緒轉嫁到王身上ꐠ
推 DK2s:恩..是轉嫁 不過很奇怪 普通人會罵自己支持球隊的投手嗎?
推 sausagecool:我看到的不是樓上說的這樣耶
推 scjh123:恩..的確有不少用有"wang"的id的鄉民在官網討論區引戰...
→ sausagecool:樓樓上 是說王輪值之後的那一場勝率不高
→ scjh123:之前看過王投的好時.有人就發"快交易王吧"這種反諷文去戰
推 akainorei:官網很多襪子反串的,我習慣去yesnetwork,那邊理性一點
推 XXMADXX:我說的是 還包括之前他們官網討論誰是ace的這種問題
推 majorleague1:官網有很多台灣人倒是真的
推 sausagecool:果然是嘴砲無國界
推 Pet:newsgroup上的洋基板對王的評價不錯啊!!
推 olaf:謝謝轉文~
推 kauyau:blog最後一篇回應(KL)太有趣了
→ kauyau:A guy teaching English in this island mean he is good
→ kauyau:at nothing but his mother tongue. So we can stop attack
→ kauyau:-ing him because he is a poor guy. He can’t earn his
→ kauyau: living in States and roams here.
推 harddaynight:KL好嗆 有點沒品 不過我喜歡 XD
推 nanalin:真酸的回文
推 Nilthoron:KL沒說錯啊
推 loki761124:KL說得好賤喔XD 只是我喜歡
推 sausagecool:大推KL
推 shawncarter:KL漂亮
推 sxxs:一樓多看一點  一些襪迷反串被罵得很慘才對 還有滾回中國那篇
→ sxxs:也被幹繳得很慘~
→ sxxs: 官網真是超多反串...要王回小聯盟啦DL啦中國拉 日本啦..一堆
推 leddy:回文有些嗆得很有道理,但有些對方看了大概看不懂...orz...
推 Benitez:.500 journalist, even less. "囧>
推 jokeman:外電也要看作者是誰ㄚ 名不見經傳的外國鄉民嘴砲也叫外電ꌠ
推 gelee:=========請問一下，他用那兩張照片要不要取得授權啊？=====
推 kauyau:WANG版18238篇有這位外國鄉民的資料  聽說是TWINS的球迷
推 IronChef:在網路上嗆老外好像很屌的樣子
推 kauyau:老外何其多  只不過這個老外一副高高在上的樣子  美帝很威?
→ kauyau:襪版嗆打爆小王是為了支持球隊  所以無妨
→ kauyau:但是這老外很多心態明顯就是優越感作祟 還住台灣不嗆他嗆誰
推 IronChef:我差不多已經一年半沒跟老外吵架了XD
→ IronChef:小時候比較愛鬧事XD
推 istay:還不就一群鄉民  外國的鄉民說話也不見得專業啦XD
推 janno:南台科大的外籍教師..?
推 CCfss: 說真的這種文可以刪了 根本不用轉來
推 aresa:看完之後真是滿腔怒火
→ aresa:有些人就是喜歡全家被批成男盜女娼才甘願，被誇獎很丟臉一樣
推 newest:這篇根本沒深度也沒內容  還外電勒  推kl嗆回去