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source: http://0rz.tw/0137v Gotta go with Joe! KAT O'BRIEN | kat.obrien@newsday.com October 14, 2007 1 BRING BACK JOE TORRE. It's true, the Yankees haven't won the World Series since 2000, but as numerous players have said, that's on them. Was Torre, a long-ago batting champion, supposed to grab a bat when his team hit a collective .228 in the Division Series? Was he supposed to give pitching coach Ron Guidry the ball as the staff compiled a 5.89 ERA in the playoffs? Anything can happen once a team gets to October. But you have to make it there to have a chance to win the World Series. Torre's teams have done that, without fail. How many other managers can say the same? That's right, zero. Even Bobby Cox's Braves failed to reach the playoffs the past two seasons. Nobody is better than Torre at handling the collection of stars the Yankees have, even winning over Alex Rodriguez this season, but up-and-comers such as Melky Cabrera and Shelley Duncan adore him too. He's terrific at dealing with the spotlight in New York as well as the whims of owner George Steinbrenner. Replacing Torre with Don Mattingly or Joe Girardi is no surefire success, unlike Torre himself. Even general manager Brian Cashman said Tuesday: "Joe's had a tremendous run here as manager. His contract's expiring, and now the discussion is about how best to go forward. His reign so far has been terrific. You'd sign up for it right now if you could find it." Hello! You already have it. And you can keep it if you bring back Torre. Of all the recent seasons the Yankees haven't won the World Series, this one gives the least cause to change managers. He did a superb job this season in guiding the team to the playoffs after a poor start fueled by a slew of injuries. Bringing him back could help hang on to Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte, too. Torre should be given a new contract that allows him to open the new Yankee Stadium in 2009. 2 FIND AN ACE. Lose the hopes that Chien-Ming Wang might be developing into an ace. Wang is a very good pitcher who has won 38 games the past two seasons. He is not an ace, though. Wang is the biggest reason we're even talking about Torre's job status instead of watching the Yankees play the Red Sox in the ALCS. In 5 2/3 innings, he gave up fully half (12) of the runs the team allowed in the Division Series, with a 19.06 ERA in two starts. Here are two thoughts on getting an ace: Put Joba Chamberlain in the starting rotation. What he showed in two months in the majors had scouts drooling. Chamberlain, who just turned 22, allowed one earned run in 19 games and 24 innings in relief. He gave up 12 hits and six walks, striking out 34. That's dominance. The other option: Give up whatever is necessary to get Johan Santana. He'll be a free agent after the 2008 season, so the small-market Twins likely will listen to offers. Then throw enough money at Santana (who's a 28-year-old lefty and a two-time Cy Young winner) to keep him in pinstripes. 3 TRY TO KEEP A-ROD, BUT HAVE A BACKUP PLAN. Alex Rodriguez is the best player in the game. He had a historic season, with 54 homers and 156 RBIs, and he's 32 with an incredible work ethic. You want that, of course. Offer him a six-year extension at an average annual value of $31 million, making the total commitment $267 million through 2016. That's bigger than his last megadeal, which is sure to be a requirement, and should have him set the career home run record in a Yankees uniform. But if Scott Boras insists on taking him to free agency and seeks a contract that goes well into Rodriguez's 40s, then say thanks for the past four years. Go get Mike Lowell, an excellent third baseman who, if not in A-Rod's league as a hitter, is at least much cheaper. 4 KEEP MARIANO RIVERA, JORGE POSADA, BOBBY ABREU, JOSE MOLINA, LUIS VIZCAINO AND DOUG MIENTKIEWICZ. Keeping Molina, Vizcaino and Mientkiewicz is easy and makes sense. All have said they want to be Yankees. Having Molina helped keep Posada fresh. Vizcaino is a solid reliever. Mientkiewicz's defense is stellar. Abreu was good for 101 RBIs and 123 runs scored in a down year. Pick up the $16-million option and see what he produces in a contract year. There are no appealing alternatives to Posada on the free-agent market. None. You simply have to keep him. The Tigers are paying Ivan Rodriguez $13 million, so your starting point is above that. Give him a three-year, $45-million contract with a vesting option for a fourth year. Wrap up Rivera for the final years of his career. Give him a three-year contract worth $36 million to $39 million and keep the best closer in history. 5 LOSE KYLE FARNSWORTH, CARL PAVANO AND ROGER CLEMENS. Farnsworth and Pavano bring bad karma. Just check the fan reaction when they come on the field (oh, wait, Pavano's never on the field). Don't worry about return trade value; just say sayonara. Clemens is one of the greatest pitchers in history. But age and injuries have caught up to him. Begin the countdown to his Hall of Fame induction. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.162.86.29
Hiro2:其實第一點我就不怎麼認同了…不一定要Torre才能整頓洋基 10/14 20:14
yoyoboy1:可憐的小王 季後賽一爆 成過街老鼠 媒體人人喊打 10/14 20:14
Hiro2:兩季共嬴了38場 季後賽輸了兩場就不是Ace…找個季後賽鐵嬴的 10/14 20:18
akainorei:失敗為成功之母, 小王明年在表現給他們看就好 10/14 20:18
Hiro2:給我看看好了?話說笑臉人的Ace CC昨天也爆了,他算不算? 10/14 20:19
yoyoboy1:看來美媒極欲塑造Chamberlain才是洋基真Ace 10/14 20:18
tournamen:現在鐵贏的好像剩北極一個了XDꨠ 10/14 20:20
yoyoboy1:這幾天媒體一直說Chamberlain Ace 張應該也會很困擾吧 10/14 20:20
Hiro2:白人(原住民血統,但外表看起來是)+高三振力=典型的Ace人選 10/14 20:20
tournamen:Joba有那個淺力 但是能不能就要看下季的表現了 10/14 20:21
Hiro2:對呀,我不討厭Joba,但是要當Ace,下季至少拿個15勝再說 10/14 20:23
siliver:推文真無聊耶.....本來表現不好就會被批啊,A-ROD不也被猛꜠ 10/14 20:24
siliver:批三年了???不過反過來想,只要以後表現好立場就相反了. 10/14 20:25
Hiro2:無聊的推文剛剛才出現,為了季後賽結果批球員一點意義也沒有 10/14 20:26
Hiro2:沒有小王19勝跟A-Rod的50幾轟,洋基進的了季後? 10/14 20:27
siliver:可惜的是,還一堆人到處找戰犯呢,A-ROD,Jeter,更別說小王了 10/14 20:27
siliver:看看MLB和Baseball版就知道了,輿論本來就是這樣了. 10/14 20:27
imsulabe:雖然自家農場出Ace會很嗨,但信心還是比不上砸錢買來的 10/14 20:28
krara:Baseball版那幾篇看看就好,很想找數據出來替A-Rod平反一下 10/14 20:31
krara:當A-Rod十個打數擊出9支安打,被三振1次時。台灣人永遠只記 10/14 20:32
krara:被三振的那次。安打的部分就選擇性的失憶。 10/14 20:32
imsulabe:應該說只會記得他單場3k,忘記他單場5.6打點比較好 10/14 20:33
siliver:沒辦法,季後賽被看的太重了,明明就只是個慶典而已嗎. 10/14 20:34
siliver:其實球員的生涯成績都是以季賽為主,誰在看季後賽的?? 10/14 20:35
scjh123:PV季後賽比王更慘....他也別當ACE好了 10/14 20:35
krara:我是作個比喻,目前實在沒時間作數據。Baseball版一堆印象派 10/14 20:36
krara:他們一直記得滿壘被三振或雙殺,卻不去記walk off GS 10/14 20:37
siliver:算了算了,再講下去又變成我在護航了,累了=.= 10/14 20:38
warchiefdodo:十打數九安打 可是那次三振總在季後賽時= = 10/14 20:38
Minamii:今年小王確實比不上北極CCPV等..但是用季後賽爆來評斷 10/14 20:48
economist:I watched almost EVERY Yankee games this year, and 10/14 20:49
economist:I really don't like the way Torre's lead the team. 10/14 20:50
economist:If Torre comes back next year, I would probably 10/14 20:50
Minamii:很不專業..PV是廢渣..CC也爆兩場了..雷基也沒多好 10/14 20:49
economist:switch to suppor some other team! 10/14 20:50
Minamii:提痛痛人跟老克根本是廢話..丟掉火哥力保LV也沒有道理 10/14 20:51
Minamii:尤其是小克要轉先發..火哥丟的那麼爽快..牛棚要靠誰? 10/14 20:52
perfect0312:說真的火哥後面幾次投得都不錯啊@@ 10/14 20:53
Minamii:KKK? RV? BB? 黑輪? 還是作者以為LV+MO可以收拾一切 10/14 20:53
Minamii:火哥絕對有stuff..我甚至覺得比LV好..季初有傷又爆了幾場 10/14 20:55
Minamii:把信心都爆掉了..越投越抖..最近有回穩的跡象才要丟? 10/14 20:56
alexchungfu:台灣已經一堆人極盡能事在貶王,美國人這樣也不算奇怪 10/14 21:08
hergan:沒差啦 反正明年拿出表現就會閉嘴了 10/14 21:15
calmdownplz:怎麼還記得沒幾個禮拜前,美媒說王是Ace,但這裡有人講 10/14 21:21
calmdownplz:派帥也能當Ace,不只王,還戰了一場,那個時候多相信美媒 10/14 21:21
calmdownplz:阿,美媒講的多中肯、多有公信力,現在的美媒又變成什麼 10/14 21:22
calmdownplz:要捧Joba的美媒了? 10/14 21:23
ppc:勝者為王 敗者為寇 10/14 21:25
Nightblade:美媒:唐牛(Joba)才是食神(Ace)...感覺大概像是這樣... 10/14 22:17
Nightblade:畢竟Joba的樣本還太少,現在就在喊Ace實在是... 10/14 22:19
krara:為什麼我會一直想到"美媒"乖~,哥哥餵糖給妳吃= = 10/14 22:22
lovecmgirls:可憐的是AROD..季後賽沒爆..還是被人酸到死 10/14 22:30
agoodjob:推Minamii....另外贊成把小王換出去... 10/14 22:51
BastardRose:第五點..."oh, wait, Pavano's never on the field" 10/14 22:52
FATBOYSLIM:小王馬上被打入冷宮 10/14 22:57
hotcom:WE NEED A AMERICA ACE 10/14 23:00
pikoto:這篇純純粹粹是嘴砲文! 一點價值都沒有 10/14 23:01
lichun1228:這篇沒什麼價值可看 10/14 23:15
leocheng:07王季後賽輸2場,就把06~07的季賽+季後賽全輸了 可憐哦 10/15 02:04
RollingWave:認為要留Mink/Viz/Villone speaks for itself 10/16 23:53