推 akainorei:果然, 跟之前戰王的文章一樣, 大家都op再op 12/14 01:42
→ gelee:不OP怎麼戰的起來？一次就戰完了啊～ 12/14 01:47
推 Beretta:低調的王引戰 真有趣XD 12/14 01:58
不知是胖阿伯真是個引戰高手，還是WANG天生會引戰呢？
一個低調成這樣的投手卻這麼會引戰，
真是個絕佳的行銷賣點。
另外某個挺有趣的鄉民回覆。
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/12/the-great-debate-on-cmw-continues/
The Fallen Phoenix
December 12th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Any self-declared “stathead” (and yes, I’d consider myself one) should
also note that GB/FB ratios tend to be most stable from year-to-year for
pitchers, even over K/9 and K/BB ratios. Chien-Ming Wang has had *extreme*
GB/FB ratios these last two seasons, and I’ve read more than one glowing
scouting report about Chien-Ming’s power sinking two-seamer (which he only
learned in the minor league system, interestingly enough).
The point is, a strong GB/FB ratio can strongly offset low K/9 ratios,
particularly if it’s accompanied by a particularly low BB/9 ratio (which
Chien-Ming supplies). Granted, unless Chien-Ming *does* develop the ability
to consistently strike people out, he will be at the mercy of luck more than
most (a one-year spike in BABIP or a particularly atrocious infield defense
behind him would be more damaging to him than a pitcher like Josh Beckett),
but that doesn’t make him a bad pitcher, nor does it mean that Chien-Ming
Wang will be unable to put together a string of successful seasons in the
next few years.
It’s quite impressive that Chien-Ming has put together good seasons behind
the not-so-hot defense of Derek Jeter at SS and (last year) Alex Rodriguez at
3B (though his defense was underrated last year due to all the flashy
errors). Granted, he’s had one of the top defensive 2B in Robbie Cano to
pick up the slack, and despite Jeter’s range limitations he turns a fine
double play (which is doubly important for sinkerballers), but short of
Chien-Ming failing to continue developing his slider and change and/or his
two-seam sinker diminishing sharply (either by opposing hitters figuring it
out, or if it loses some combination of velocity/movement), I see no reason
why Chien-Ming cannot continue to enjoy the success of the last two seasons
(where he was a top-15 starter in the AL, even if he didn’t turn out “
dominating” top-5 performances day in and day out), and I speak as a “
stathead”. Perhaps not an expert stathead, but I’d like to imagine one who’
s versed enough to have some idea of what he’s talking about…
※ 引述《alwaysblue (什麼樣的生日....)》之銘言：
: The great debate on CMW continues
: Here is an e-mail I just received. It was, of course, anonymous:
:
: Wang doesn’t strike anyone out and depends on the ridiculous number of
: groundballs he’s able to create being turned into outs. This is not a
: reliable strategy that will produce consistent results over a career.
: It is working in the short term, but as Bill James as pointed out in the
: past, no pitcher with a K/9 below the league average has gone on to have
: a meaningful career. He’s in no way in the same class as someone like
: Beckett and is most definitely not an ace. Unless he develops a legit
: strikeout pitch there will always be the risk that the groundballs get
: through and he’ll have bad starts. He can’t be counted on in the
: playoffs.
: So, the 417.1 innings Wang has pitched the last two seasons are a
: short-term mirage. His going 38-13 is a sign of not having a reliable
: strategy. But the 5.2 poor innings he had in the playoffs, those are a
: sign that he can’t be counted on.
: I think I got my first Bill James report in 1988 and I just received his
: 2008 Handbook in the mail. His approach is endlessly fascinating. But
: when the statheads like my anonymous friend leave no room for humanity is
: where they lose me.
: Wang has made only 80 starts in his career, most with two pitches. I’ve
: stood there and watched him work on other pitches in the bullpen. I’ve
: talked to him at length about it. He knows people sit on his sinker. Did
: you know that his slider was his best pitch in college but the Yankees had
: him dump it when he had shoulder issues? Now he’s healthy and he’s
: working on it again. He also is doing a lot of work on a changeup.
: This guy shows up every five days, he pitches deep into games and he has
: handled almost every big-game assignment with aplomb. Why people insist
: on running him down remains a mystery to me.
: ————
: A few of my Taiwanese friends have told me that the blog is getting some
: play in Taiwan tonight. So hello to you guys and thanks for reading.
: News source：http://0rz.tw/f13ox
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