作者leddy (耿秋)
看板NY-Yankees
標題[洋基] What's wrong with Hughes?
時間Sun May 10 17:39:16 2009
Joe Girardi解釋今天Phil Hughes被打爆的原因, 因為不是在投球而是在"推"球，使
得他的球投得高太平缺乏尾勁。賽後Hughes也同意這個說法，他說他的"arm slot"太低,
讓他變得像在"推球"，出手點太低也讓他的速球的旋轉，使得他的速球比較像"滑球"。
讓他原本速球/切球/曲球的組合, 變成滑球/切球/曲球, 但Hughes曲球的品質不穩定，速
球又像滑球, 變得和切球差不多，使得他原本的三種球路，降低變成兩種, 打者便可以鎖
定其中一種來揮擊。
只是另一個令人覺得納悶的是THT的Josh Kalk曾表示，Hughes的放球點一直是非常固
定的，而且你可能還會質疑為什麼會有這麼穩定的放球點。但這場為何會突然arm slot往
下掉呢, waswatching.com的猜測可能是"手臂疲勞", 因為當投手的球投得開始高起來時，
原因便可能是手臂疲勞。讓我們看看他下場出賽的狀況看看是不是真是這樣?
May 9th @ The Orioles
By Steve Lombardi - Last updated: Saturday, May 9, 2009
I gave Phil Hughes a mulligan on his last start and this is what he does the
next time out?
In the YES post-game coverage, Joe Girardi said that Hughes was “pushing”
the ball and this caused his pitches to “get up” and be “flat.” And, in
his post-game interview, Phil Hughes agreed - saying that his “arm slot was
low” and this made him “push the ball.”
As I understand it, when a pitcher’s arm slot drops (or is low), having the
elbow on the throwing arm lower, it forces the pitcher to “arm,” “push,”
or “sling” the ball instead of “throwing” it. And, when this happens, a
pitcher’s fastball develops a tailing action. Basically, when his slot
drops, it doesn’t allow his fingers to stay on top of the ball and acquire
the appropriate backspin for a true fastball.
For Hughes, tonight, this made his fastball more like a slider. And, a slider
is basically a cutter - which Hughes does throw. So, in situations when he
loses his slot, like today, Hughes goes from being a fastball/cutter/curve
pitcher and becomes a (natural) slider/cutter/curve pitcher.
The latter is an issue because Hughes is inconsistent with his curve. Plus,
if his fastball acts like a slider, which is the same as a cutter, it turns
Hughes into a two-pitch pitcher: Slider/Cutter and Curveball. And, with that
two-pitch only attack, hitters can sit on one pitch and hack…see: Ramirez,
Edwar. (Although, for Ramirez, it’s fastball/change only and not
cutter/curve only.)
Now, here comes the strange part. Last summer, Josh Kalk established that
Hughes has an incredibly consistent arm slot. As he wrote then:
…if someone tells you that Hughes doesn’t have a consistent release point,
they are wrong. Because his release point is so steady, you would think that
comes from a very repeatable delivery and, indeed, that is reportedly one of
his best traits. In fact, you have to wonder if his release point is too
consistent.
So, what happened, all of a sudden, tonight, to make Phil lose his slot? If I
had to guess, I would say it’s arm fatigue. I can remembering hearing, as
far back as the 1970’s, “When a pitcher starts getting his pitches up in
the zone, it’s because he’s tired and he can’t keep his elbow up in his
delivery.”
This, of course, leads to the question: Why does Hughes have arm fatigue? (If
my theory is true.)
I guess we’ll see…right? It will be interesting to see if Phil does better
with this…his next time out.
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推 smart0326:今年的先發群流年真是不利.... 05/10 17:40
→ passerbyme:這是他下3A王回來的預兆嗎 05/10 17:57
推 jagdzaku:才一場就疲勞? 05/10 18:00
推 kimifort:這個'What's Wrong with "somebody"'OP了好幾次了.... 05/10 18:17
推 DLCSEA:不知道耶在小聯盟那麼多場 都不疲勞..上來大聯盟一場就疲勞 05/10 18:19
→ DLCSEA:去年不是也是 投沒幾場 肋骨就疲勞性骨折...讓人覺得.受傷 05/10 18:20
→ DLCSEA:還真是發生的沒有道理阿... 05/10 18:20
→ OoyaoO:沒什麼道理吧... 除非冬聯投太累 不過在Milb也都沒事阿 05/10 18:23
推 miumiu8271:那麼快就手臂疲勞..大聯盟果然很難混0.0 05/10 18:23
推 newnovice:下次來個What's wrong with Girardi? 05/10 18:36
推 Pettitte70:What's wrong with Yankees...=.= 05/10 18:46
推 ccclum:狠常看的的標題... 05/10 19:07
推 changyt:What's wrong with all of you? 05/10 19:20
推 matonw:這標題，看了好幾年了...有些人還年年上榜，比如本文主角 05/10 19:27
推 raygod:如果大爆炸還沒人寫這種文章才慘 05/10 20:17
推 devilsky:推球就要問一下張99了 05/10 20:23
→ VeryLike5566:他只是恢復實力罷了，不意外！ 05/10 20:48
推 seawolfssn:What's wrong with Sandy? 05/10 21:02
→ seawolfssn:Maybe it's just a squirrel thing. 05/10 21:02
推 askia:1休斯本來就是一個很會投順風球的選手 如果一開始就大幅領先 05/10 21:08
→ askia:他可以投很順 但是如果落後他就開始自爆了 05/10 21:09
推 appshjkli:我可以噓暴上面那位嗎 05/10 21:13
推 rockyue:純粹覺得是捕手問題罷了 05/10 21:17
推 DLCSEA:捕手？那上一場CC完封也是他配的阿 05/10 21:27
推 redsnipertd:沒丟好就沒丟好= =別牽拖有得沒的 05/10 21:28
推 DLCSEA:而且捕手之前不是在3A也跟大帝搭當過阿 大帝在3A很殺阿 05/10 21:31
→ DLCSEA:捕手問題究竟是從何而來?? 05/10 21:31
推 kimifort:我覺得是金融風暴的關係 Hughes因此分心在生計上 05/10 21:38
推 phix:看他第一場投球就想到張誌家啊... 05/10 21:43
推 examination:Cervelli沒到3A...... 05/10 21:49
推 DLCSEA:sorry那我錯了...Cervelli 2A直接拉上來 太意外了 05/10 22:01
→ DLCSEA:三A沒好捕手了? 05/10 22:02
推 yyhong68:因為他是posada及molina外 唯一一個在40人名單的捕手了 05/10 22:08
→ DLCSEA:了解 完全的了解了... 05/10 22:10
→ yyhong68:後來把 Cash叫上來時，還DFA一個小聯盟投手 05/10 22:13
推 DLCSEA:樓上 3Q 05/10 22:13
推 cyp001:3A也沒投手用了 要調誰上來? 05/10 22:49
→ ypw:這標題好像在洋基新聞OP很久了 05/11 00:53
→ siliver:投順風球的投手??科科,季後賽第三場Hughes在落後時被推上 05/11 08:52
→ siliver:來撐住大局,最後洋基逆轉得到勝利,原來是落後大爆下的結果 05/11 08:53
→ leocheng:是東方的神秘力量讓Hughes覺得疲累 (超大誤) 05/11 09:21