作者leddy (耿秋)
看板NY-Yankees
標題[洋基] Assessing Wang’s 2009 future
時間Sat May 23 22:56:33 2009
看看這篇
太急著放小王上來，看來不是什麼好事。從小王5月12日開始投復建賽，洋基本來有
30天的時間可以修正小王的問題，但Chamberlain被球打中後，一切卻亂了套，洋基牛棚
人手不足，本來是可以叫上Dave Robertson或Mark Melancon上來，但為了以防
Chamberlain無法先發，洋基決定讓小王離開傷兵名單。
22晚洋基這個不適當的處理的結果是，小王球速是出來了，但放球點的問題並沒有修
正好，所以有球速，但小王根本無法穩定地控制他的球，好的時候伸卡會掉，滑球角度也
漂亮，但不好的時候什麼也沒有發生，結果便是昨晚的結果，ERA從34.50降到了25.0，但
昨晚的表現是ERA 6.00, WHIP 2.33，是比被打爆時好了，但問題現在洋基不敢讓他先發
，放他在牛棚，危急要保住勝利時洋基敢讓控球不穩定的小王上來嗎? 結果讓他在牛棚擔
任的是整個投手群中最不重要的長中繼，所謂的長中繼便是，先發投手有狀況，不管是受
了傷還是已經控制不住場面，才輪得到長中繼上場。
現在的情況是如果小王的放球點的問題如果沒有修正好，洋基已經沒辦法再放他去小
聯盟了，除非他們可以"找到"新的傷。這個太急的處理，現在洋基必須面對關於小王的頭
痛問題了。
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/05/assessing-wangs-2009-future-12115/
Assessing Wang’s 2009 future
By Benjamin Kabak
When Chien-Ming Wang made his first AAA start on May 12, he started his rehab
clock. From that point on, the Yankees had 30 days in which they could do
whatever they wanted with Wang. The team could have chosen for him to pitch
at AAA or A, for Tampa at the Yanks’ complex or for Scranton who needs
bodies to start right now. They could have taken until June 11 to have work
on his woefully bad mechanics, his inconsistent release point and his lower
body and arm strength.
Instead, as soon as one of their pitchers who probably won’t even miss a
start got hurt, they panicked. Following a 0.2 inning outing by Joba
Chamberlain cut short due to a line drive to the upper shin and an 8.1 inning
bullpen effort, the Yanks activated Wang from the disabled list and stuck him
into some hybrid long relief/mop-up man role. Instead of recalling David
Robertson or Mark Melancon, instead of simply waiting it out until it became
clear that Joba wouldn’t be able to start on Tuesday, the Yanks hit the
panic switch.
Last night, they started paying the cost of this poor move. By the time Wang
entered the game in the 7th inning, the Yanks were nearing their first loss
in nine games. They were down 5-1, and Wang promptly made sure that deficit
grew. By the time Matt Stairs lined out to Robinson Cano to end the Phillies’
half of the 8th, Wang had lowered his ERA from 34.50 to an even 25.00, but
to focus on the 9.50-run decrease would be to ignore the reality of Wang’s
situation.
That reality is simply that the Yanks have left themselves up the proverbial
creek without a paddle. When his night was over, Wang’s line wasn’t pretty.
In three innings of work, he allowed seven baserunners and two earned runs.
He surrendered a stunningly crushed home run to Raul Ibañez and seemed to be
throwing with little ability to control where the ball went. Sometimes, the
sinker would sink; sometimes, the slider would slide; other times, nothing
would happen.
On the night, Wang’s 6.00 ERA and his 2.33 WHIP were vast improvements over
his season numbers, but where do the Yankees go from here? Wang certainly hasn
’t done anything to unseat Phil Hughes from the rotation. While Hughes has
battled inconsistency and ineffectiveness, he’ll give the Yanks five or six
innings of seemingly average-to-above average pitching. Wang can’t even do
that right now.
The Yanks can’t really use Wang as a reliever in a tight spot out of the pen
either. Would you trust him in a close game? So the Yanks had a glorified
mop-up man on their hands.
Meanwhile, they haven’t really fixed what I think was the problem. In two
previous posts here and here, Mike and I examined Wang’s pitch f/x results
and determined that his release point was both off and completely
inconsistent. Dan Novick, a long-time RAB reader and writer at Statistically
Speaking, examined Wang’s relief outing. While Wang’s velocity was up,
Novick determined that the Yanks haven’t fixed the release point issue.
Basically, then, as a panic move, they deactivated Wang nearly three weeks
before they had to. He wasn’t ready to pitch in the Majors, and the team isn
’t really ready to make any sort of use out of him. The Yanks don’t really
have choices here. They can’t send him down, and unless they “find”
another injury, he’ll have to work out these issues while pitching out of a
mop-up spot in the pen. He’s also taking up a valuable roster spot with
Brian Bruney’s status seemingly up in the air.
Over the last few years, the Yankees have generally done a good job of
balancing their roster and making use of their open spots on both the 25- and
40-man. This move though defies baseball logic, and Brian Cashman, Joe
Girardi and Dave Eiland will now have to fix Chien-Ming Wang without the
luxury of a rehab clock. Joba got a bruise; the Yanks panicked; and now they’
ll pay the price with this Wang-related headache.
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推 Ruri:只能說去年那個跑壘代價真的太大了...乖乖出局就好啦 05/23 22:59
※ 編輯: leddy 來自: 61.225.145.15 (05/23 22:59)
推 TSUKASAYUAN:可是現在的牛棚也差不多抖啊...唉... 05/23 22:59
→ DaLanPa5566:Swisher:看樣子林北又要上場了!! 05/23 22:59
推 Jamesbang:可是王說他準備好了 (小聲) 05/23 23:00
→ Ruri:其實我有個問題是,小王狀況好的滑球和常用的伸卡出手點有差? 05/23 23:00
→ leddy:想看的話再貼另一篇... 05/23 23:03
推 prosta:可以貼貼看阿 05/23 23:04
推 raygod:尊重一個連兩年19勝的投手意願比較重要! 05/23 23:26
→ mabigfly:放他繼續屠殺3A 未必能找回更完美的狀態 05/23 23:29
推 krara:誰又預知得到跑壘會出事？ 05/23 23:40
推 appshjkli:尊重XD 05/23 23:49
推 iflyy:王版死忠迷:這文章膽敢不尊重連2年19勝,已準備好的投手bala~ 05/23 23:51
推 killbaga:套句某版友說的話(忘記是哪位) 05/23 23:51
推 donnylee:這裡可以討論王?! 05/23 23:52
→ killbaga:如果將投手名字蓋掉再拿數據給你看 還會說要尊重他嗎? 05/23 23:53
推 gerkk:3A已經沒甚麼好練了 05/23 23:54
推 mepass:這次上場很明顯就是不及格 離及格邊緣還好長一段距離 05/24 00:00
推 jayin07:Phillies的打線有多可怕，你不知道嗎...？ 05/24 00:02
推 j094097:及格? 要投的怎樣才叫及格? 05/24 00:03
推 jonnydamon:對!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!假如今天把名字遮掉，表現真的 05/24 00:03
→ jonnydamon:及格!!但是，要與之前幾場球賽做個比較阿!還有，這是 05/24 00:04
→ jonnydamon:短暫的中繼，我想保守一點得作法，應該看下一場中繼的 05/24 00:05
→ jonnydamon:表現而定。已經有進步了....當然，還可以更好! 05/24 00:06
→ jonnydamon:上面打錯@@，應為"不及格"(光看帳面上數據) 05/24 00:07
推 kimifort:6.0era是及格成績 (筆記) 05/24 00:17
推 sycc:洋基怕的就是王一上來還是被打到爆掉 三局失兩分當然不能說好 05/24 00:31
→ sycc:但至少沒有爆掉 滾球風格也有回來的跡象 05/24 00:32
推 warchiefdodo:我最高興的是球速有回到92~95 雖然控球還是有些囧 05/24 00:42
推 poqwer:老是要把名字遮掉，有些人是有病是不是...... 05/24 00:59
→ poqwer:名字都遮掉，有些人開季就被fire啦，有夠小白....... 05/24 01:00
推 gerkk:哈哈哈,乾脆連薪水也遮掉好了 05/24 01:05
推 chuck0000:真要講的話某人ERA7.06，真的夠資格取代王? 05/24 01:17
→ chuck0000:把某人的名字遮掉EAR7.06很猛?笑死人了 05/24 01:18
推 appshjkli:夠,因為王建民的ERA是25 05/24 01:18
→ chuck0000:王的25是腦殘教練團下什麼禁跑害的吧?到爆了才開始讓王 05/24 01:19
→ chuck0000:跑，某人好像沒有讓人禁跑EAR也不低啊 05/24 01:19
→ appshjkli:XDDDDD,好啦;你爽就好,反正現在還是某人在輪值裡 05/24 01:19
→ chuck0000:是啊某人若不是因為現金人想證明自己沒拿他換山大王是正 05/24 01:20
→ chuck0000:確的決定，EAR7.06也早就該到三A報到了 05/24 01:21
推 jdtrue:我想Hughes的耳朵不低應該是搭配他的臉型來著... 05/24 01:21
推 appshjkli:..XD 05/24 01:21
推 jayin07:喔，某人被改了arm slot之後，不只球速變慢 05/24 01:23
→ jayin07:連12-6的曲球也差點不見 05/24 01:23
推 chuck0000:王若有這麼差，那就不用找一堆理由讓王進DL、直接下放 05/24 01:26
→ chuck0000:反正ERA3X，也沒人會撿，問題在王的情況有很大的原因是 05/24 01:26
→ chuck0000:是那鳥禁跑搞出來的，不然為何不敢下放? 05/24 01:27
→ chuck0000:Hughes真有這麼棒先拿下十勝再說吧= =" 05/24 01:27
推 a1868859:就不能下放 不然要給別人撿? 05/24 01:28
推 appshjkli:又是勝投XDDDDDDDDD 05/24 01:28
→ a1868859:如果真的不重視王 早就讓王給別人撿了阿 05/24 01:28
→ chuck0000:是啊，就是怕人撿，代表的是王還是有行情在 05/24 01:28
推 jayin07:不太懂，洋基有不好的地方大家都知道 05/24 01:28
→ jayin07:當洋基已經拼命補救的時候，還是不滿意 05/24 01:29
→ chuck0000:那請把某人ERA降到四以下再來說吧= = 05/24 01:29
→ jayin07:然後就圍繞在那個「早知道」的點上 05/24 01:29
→ a1868859:那你怎麼不說王ERA先降到10以下... 05/24 01:29
→ chuck0000:搞不懂一些人的心態，好像王投不好很開心一樣 05/24 01:30
→ chuck0000:再怎說，也是自己的同胞吧，有些人心態真的很怪 05/24 01:30
→ appshjkli:看完你再來罵也不遲XD 05/24 01:30
→ appshjkli:同胞論XD 05/24 01:30
→ a1868859:沒有人開心阿 只是王真的有實力 就一定會有他的位置 05/24 01:30
→ chuck0000:對啊、同胞論，至少比酸言酸語的某些人好 05/24 01:31
推 jayin07:喔 05/24 01:32
→ chuck0000: appshjkli你的文章是一回事，我覺得你的心態很怪罷了 05/24 01:32
推 a1868859:你這樣盲目支持 跟酸言酸語的差在哪 05/24 01:33
→ appshjkli:那可不是我的文章阿XD,那是人家隨隊記者寫的XDD 05/24 01:33
→ a1868859:支持王就相信他有那實力能證明他是個19勝等級的先發阿 05/24 01:33
推 jdtrue:唔 其實他證明過了 05/24 01:38
推 luckseven:盲目支持? 是人都會有低潮 王這時最需要我們的支持 05/24 02:05
推 a1868859:所以批評Hughes比王弱 不夠格暫代先發 就是支持了嗎 05/24 02:08
推 kimifort:需要你個貂 = = 你以為悟空集元氣彈阿 05/24 02:08
推 crystallai:還是那句話，這裡談到小王要很小心，不過這次比較好， 05/24 02:10
推 raul7777777:Hughes真可憐不知道招誰惹誰了 05/24 02:10
→ crystallai:沒有出面趕人去王版 05/24 02:11
推 a1868859:真的很可憐 上來練個經驗值 就要被罵到灰頭土臉 05/24 02:11
推 killbaga:因為戰場已經轉到王版去了 某篇文章可以轉就可了XD 05/24 02:35
推 Sustainer:Hughes真可憐不知道招誰惹誰了+1 05/24 06:59
→ agoodjob:他又沒說要支持Hughes XDD 05/24 08:45
→ sean666:要完全沒失投球的投手?拿3000萬/年來或叫神來投吧! 05/24 19:39