[洋基] Phil Hughes’ Mechanics: What’s The Deal?

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資料來源:

http://0rz.tw/513WE

Hughes的投球機制那裡出了問題?

針對Hughes的投球機制影響球速的問題, 昨晚比賽後這位球探將Hughes 2006年和2008年
仔細作了比較。

簡單說一下重點: (請自行參考原文的圖片比較)

1. 針對有些人認為是放球出手過程(delivery)出了問題, Piliere發現其實並沒有太大的
   改變, 就算有也沒什麼太大值得注意的。

2. 經過仔細用影片進行比較, 2008年的投球機制與2006年不同的是從Hughes投球的後腿抬
   起後, 之前則差異不太。2006年時投球時他充份運用了他的前腿去投球, 從圖片可以看
   到他投出後後腿沒有彎曲直直地向上。但2008年作者發現他用他的右肩膀去拉或帶領
   身體其他的部份, 06年時他的腿的動作讓身體其他部份有效地運作, 但08年時卻會發現
   在他手臂動作的最後, 他的頭部已經經轉向或是頓了一下。但06年的動作不是這樣,
   06年時他的頭部還保持往上且轉向本壘板方向, 08年時他的頭部則被他積極往下的右肩
   拉得往下, 可以參看作者提供的影片片斷。

3. 作者認為放球點並沒有改變, 所以問題不在此, 那會不會是去大腿筋拉傷出的問題?
   根據分析, 的確有可能。作者認為Hughes對左腿施力後沒有有效地帶領身體後半部的
   力量, 是這裡產生的問題, 不是手臂角度, 放球點, 手臂速度等上面的問題, 至少有
   75%以上的問題不是出在那裡。

4. 作者建議修正: 但不見得洋基隊想要作這樣的改變, 因為可能洋基隊認為Hughes這種
   出手方式控球會比較好。那要怎麼改呢? 他認為第一步是把右肩的施放的壓力拿掉
   (沒改的話肩膀是不是會...), Hughes要更積極地去運用腿的力量, 讓右後腿去抬高,
   那他腰部會彎曲地更順暢點, 而不是用右肩膀的力量去往下拉。以作者的意見, Hughes
   應該是把他的重量經由前半部平順地運用出去, 而不是只是把重量傳送到前腿而沒有
   施力上去。(對照去年po的13368, 這個傷, 唉...)

5. 作者認為這是他的意見, 若有投球機制的專家有其他看法, 可以到網站和他討論。

6. Hughes的球速問題, John Sickels的評論是這樣, 88-91的球速的確不見得就不能在大
   聯盟中吃飯, 但這樣的球速配合Hughes現在的投球, 他將不再是預期中的Ace級投手,
   而只是個2-3號的先發投手。唉.......(這篇有空再post吧)

Phil Hughes’ Mechanics: What’s The Deal?

April 9, 2008 by fpiliere44

By Frankie Piliere

When you are the youngest pitcher in Major League Baseball and being touted
as the future ace of the New York Yankees, I suppose that it is normal to be
under the microscope at all times. And, boy has Phil Hughes been under the
microscope.

What has come in question about Hughes the most is his velocity and its
relationship to his mechanics. Has his delivery changed as so many have
speculated? If so, what has changed? Why does he look so confused in the
picture to the right?

Stick around and find out the answers to these questions and others after the
jump…

(Phil Hughes Photo Credit: Hot Stove New York)


Hughes’ delivery has changed over the course of the last year or so: FACT

It is not as drastic a change as it’s being made out to be, as I’ll get to
in a minute, but there is most definitely a change as far as I can tell.

Hughes’ current arm angle is higher than it was during his minor league
career: FACT

This is very, very slight. I’m not even convinced that it is part of the
problem. But, Hughes’ arm angle is just a tiny bit higher than it was a
couple years ago. Check out the photos below and keep the slightly different
camera angles in mind. ‘06 is on the left and ‘08 is on the right.

If you can really see a significant different then I give you all the credit
in the world. But although I think he is maybe just a shade higher than he
was in ‘06, I really don’t think there’s as much to it as people are
making it out like it is.

Where’s The Difference?

Everyone seems to have an opinion of late about what is different about Phil
Hughes mechanics. Surely, everyone is not wrong; there is something different
as I established above. But, what no one has nailed down for sure is what
exactly has changed. From what I’ve found after some excruciatingly long
looks at video clips is something different than what’s previous been talked
about. Take a look at these comparisons below. Again, ‘08 is on the right
and ‘06 is on the left.

From balance point, to hands breaking, to the point where Hughes’ is about
to begin his rear leg lift, there is nothing different worth noting. The top
comparison may look slightly different but keep in mind the ‘08 angle is far
more straight on. Again, there is nothing significantly changed at this point
through his delivery.

The Real Change

I wish I had a better visual for this but stay with me. From the video
analysis, it appears Hughes’ mechanic change begins after his rear leg lift.
Before that, I don’t see anything that looks like a legitimate difference in
his delivery. This, however, is. Check out the picture comparison.

See anything? If you look close I think you will. In ‘06, Hughes throwing
right over that front leg. It was firming up beautifully and his rear leg was
lifting straight up. I’ve been trying to think of the best way to describe
this, but the only thing that keeps coming into my mind is that it looks like
his right shoulder is pulling or leading the rest of his body here in ‘08.
In ‘06 it was leg drive making his follow through work. Also take note that
his head seems to get turned or snapped at the end of his arm action in ‘08.
This was not the case in ‘06. His head in ‘06 was still upright and turned
toward the plate. In ‘08, his head is being pulled down by his aggressive
front shoulder pulling downward. Check out the clip of what I’m talking
about.

My Final Theory

I’ve yet to weigh in on this and stood by while other analysts on the web
have examined in. So, what’s my point in this article? A. Too much is being
made of other supposed issues in his mechanics prior to his follow through. I
hope I was able to ease some Yankee fans fears that there really is no other
changes up this point in his delivery. The change I did touch on however, I
do think could be a direct cause of his lessened velocity since over the past
year. Is it because of the hamstring injury? I can’t say for sure either
way, but considering much of my focus in this article has been on that front
leg in question, it is certainly possible.

But, the bottom line is right now is that from what I can see, Hughes is
pushing against that front leg and not driving over and through it. Hence,
the reason for the less aggressive looking follow through with his leg that I
pointed out above. The problem is not arm speed, nor is it arm angle or the
way his hands are breaking, at least from what I can tell. Through 75% of his
delivery, essentially nothing has changed. The leg lift and follow through
certainly appear different, though.

Recommendation For Repair

Whether the Yankees want this repaired I don’t know. Perhaps they feel with
his delivery his command will be better. What I see, however, besides
effecting velocity, it is impacting command as well. With his shoulder
pulling downwards towards his left side, it is essentially creating the same
situation as pulling off his pitches. And, pulling off, typically causes
pitches to leak arm side (In Hughes’ case, in on righty hitters). From
watching most of Hughes’ starts, pitches leaking back towards the middle has
gotten him in some trouble quite frequently.

So, what to do? I’d say the first step would be taking some pressure off of
that right shoulder. And, to do that, Hughes would need to once again be
aggressive with his legs and get that high rear leg lift. This will certainly
make his bend at the waist much more smooth, rather being pulled down by his
shoulder. In my opinion, he simply needs to get his weight transfer flowing
smoothly right over and through his front side rather than his weight
transfering into that front leg but not over it.

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I’d like to be clear that this is my opinion. I do not claim to be right at
all times; in fact I know I’m not. People have differing mechanical
philosophies and I applied mine in this article. I’m making this little
disclaimer because I know what a hot topic Hughes’ mechanics have become.
This is simply what I view to be the potential mechanical change/flaw behind
Phil Hughes’ supposed loss off velocity. Enjoy the article.

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推 deathcustom:嘆
推 Beretta:大帝啊大帝...希望能調整回來
推 yuppy1314:樓上ID很熟..
推 bymee:球速降了以外，曲球好像也投不進去...
推 bigsun0709:不會今年打完才後悔當初沒拿去換山大王吧(哭哭)
→ hergan:樓上 搞不好= =
推 TomCourtenay:沒有球速的Hughes...把大帝這個很諷刺的綽號丟掉吧！
推 unknowday:那就叫他大弟吧 = =
→ redzero:還是他的能力是介於3A跟MLB之間
推 siliver:Ace掉到2~3號也還好吧 =.=a
推 TheBeast:差很多喔..... 2~3號跟之前的期待是有落差的
推 loloool:大帝都不大帝了 現金人以為每個農作物都像王或cano一樣吧
→ TheBeast:調不回來的話  是不是只剩張獅 ... 慘
推 belister:最早還希望是...火箭人
推 tonychou:大弟是賴東進的弱智弟弟嗎?(有看過乞丐孩子的人應該知道)
※ 編輯: leddy           來自: 140.130.152.70       (04/10 15:36)
推 mdbbd:能自己養出3號以上就不錯了 昂牌那麼好出還叫王牌?
→ mdbbd:基本上養出來的能站穩就算賺到了
推 kauw:真投不出來 交易價值也會大減..留著自己用吧 3號先發也不錯
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推 raygod:還年輕又不急...
推 CarlPainvano:都是我的錯QQ
推 qlz:樓上orz
推 tigernaxo:大帝上來之前很多人預測肯定排在19勝的王前面...
推 Nilthoron:Hughes還很年輕大家不要急
推 playball:球迷們不用擔心
推 slidshodness:重點是球速阿，很少有人越老球速越快
推 Aldousphyx:沒錯.現在看他投球很像在看35歲的moose.控球還比較差..
推 iawhite:希望Hughes在五月之前恢復正常會很貪心嗎=v=;
推 hotcom:像王?王的期盼本來沒那麼高唷
推 henk:王本來評估只能做RP喔.....香汗的評估比較好 3號SP
推 superjerry2:王完全是自己發奮練出A++的伸卡...不然..= =
→ superjerry2:想像一下現在的王沒有伸卡就知道了
推 andy114425:王當初的簽初金全部加一加有201萬，花了這麼多錢簽一個
→ andy114425:評估只能做RP的選手，就算當初沒有料到會有現在的好表
→ andy114425:現，應該也沒這麼不堪吧？
→ andy114425:這種簽約金應該有第一輪的水準了吧？有高手可以告知一
→ andy114425:下洋基當初對他的期待嗎？
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推 bryon:若是只有2.3號的話.當初沒換山大王這件事…就有待商確了XD
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推 wjc:王當初的簽約金是第一輪的水準,洋基的期望當然是養成王牌
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→ wjc:後來評估王只能做RP是因為王在2A成績太差,可能無法在MLB當先發
→ wjc:如果能當RP那簽約金也不算浪費,由來就是如此