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我倒覺得這篇寫得挺中肯的...王建民現在跳過一次先發真得調得回來嗎? 他需要的是多點局數練身手...既然無法技術性弄進DL...但不給他局數真 的調得回來嗎? 原文: http://blog.nj.com/yankees/ Damaso, Jose & Wang.... Posted by SteveB April 20, 2009 12:45PM Anybody here... see my old friend Chien-Ming. Can you tell me where he's gone.......... Damaso, Jose & Wang.... I won't go through the whole song, by now you get the idea. On April 20, 2008, this was CC Sabathia's line--- 0-3, 13.50ERA, 18IP, 32H, 14BB, 14K, 5HR, .390/.475/.695 Of course, after that he was virtually unhittable the rest of the season. ..................but I'm just sayin' Barring injury, I never preach making quick decisions on veteran ballplayers who have a series of poor performances. Oh sure, there is always the shadow of Steve Blass or Steve Trout, both of whom seemed to lose it overnight. You can throw in Mr Yips, Chuck Knoblauch, too. But they were extreme cases out of 1000s of MLB ballplayers. When we got Marte last season, there were many who thought we 'stole' him from the Pirates for 'only' minor leaguers. Veras pitched well for us last season and pitched 7 great games out of 9 appearances in 2007, forcing Joe Torre to use somebody different. Wang, despite his poor showing in the postseason, has been nothing less than terrific since he came up in 2005. I don't think all these guys have forgotten how to pitch. You gotta give them some time. Veras and Marte have a shorter leash because there are several relief pitchers in the Yankees' organization who are destroying the competition-- short guys Melancon & Robertson don't belong in AAA anymore and long guys Tomko & Johnson have pitched quite well too. Back to Wang, you just gotta give him time to get over it. Sending him down to the minors isn't on the list of options, as I believe he would need to clear waivers. What's the point of DL-ing him if he pitches well on the sidelines as it is? Personally, I don't think it will happen for him in Yankee Stadium, I think he needs a couple of starts on the road. If his turn comes up at Fenway this weekend, I don't feel there is any reason to bypass him, as that will only make it worse. I don't understand why he's been ineffective either. Is it mental, physical, mechanical? Yeah, he had that 'deer in the headlights' look sitting on the bench Saturday afternoon, what would you expect? The only thing that will cure him is more innings. I understand the desire by Yankees fans to want every start by every pitcher to be a special one. But there is a bigger picture here. The Yankees, despite having a kind of strange April thus far, have a winning record. They have played well enough to be competitive and that's without their cleanup hitter, who will be returning sometime in the next 2-3 weeks. Their terrific 1B-man has been subpar. Playing in Yankee Stadium feels like there has been a minor shift in the space-time continuum. So THAT word panic should not be used. Veras & Marte certainly feel the heat of competition & they know if they don't get their act together, there will be changes. The recent Yankees' roster-flipping of Robertson, Claggett & Jackson is obviously intended to clarify the decision-making process. And don't be surprised if you hear (maybe sooner than later) about the Yankees clearing room on their 40-man roster in order to promote one of- Melancon, Tomko or Johnson. (My bet is on one of the veterans coming up first) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.131.240.113
abc12812:她可以跟Joba玩雙先發 04/22 00:34
noahlin:現在最好的時機應該是垃圾局數上去練吧 04/22 00:35
dp44:在他調整好之前 我也不想看到他先發= = 04/22 00:36
tekid726:目前不想看他先發+1~先吃點中繼應該比較好吧@@" 04/22 00:36
warchiefdodo:徵求本人同意下MILB先發吃局數可行嗎? 04/22 00:39
bulualien:樓上... 04/22 00:44
webrose:如果不是DL狀況下milb不是說了會被撿走...不是他同意就好 04/22 00:45
west1996:真的先發萬一沒調好牛棚燒太大了 很傷 而且會傷好幾天 04/22 00:46
Schnell:現在這樣先發真的對大家都傷 04/22 00:57
MRCool:領先8分常理來看應該是垃圾局了 不過對他來說好像不是 04/22 01:06
MRCool:要是大幅領先還被逆轉他就要黑到底了 04/22 01:07
jayin07:簡言之,除了DL之外,你要離開active roster就一定要通過 04/22 01:27
jayin07:waiver 04/22 01:27
philluke:趕快DL讓他下去吧..... 04/22 01:27
owenwangbaba:其實洋基如果敢賭大的話 可以讓他每兩天中繼一局 04/22 01:28
philluke:這樣沒啥用耶... 他需要的是一次長局數 04/22 01:28
philluke:他上次也是一局解決三人 還有K咧 04/22 01:29
owenwangbaba:或者 三天長中繼一次 這樣搞不好可以讓他找到投球的 04/22 01:29
owenwangbaba:感覺 我不覺得沒啥用 要是他每次都一局 然後順利解決 04/22 01:30
philluke:長中繼 就怕他上去整個黑掉.... 04/22 01:30
owenwangbaba:這樣信心也會慢慢回來 只不過洋基肯嗎?? 要顧戰積的 04/22 01:31
philluke:一局真的不能說明什麼....他要證明的是他可以維持很多局 04/22 01:31
philluke:而不只是一局.... 04/22 01:31
Picoro:那就準備一個3A長中繼或先發 , 排在王的後面 04/22 01:31
owenwangbaba:為啥不能說明甚麼? 如果你能在一局內順利解決三個打 04/22 01:32
Picoro:反正以王來說 , 會爆都是前三局就爆 04/22 01:32
Picoro:有個準先發在後面backup , 應該可以當練兵 04/22 01:32
owenwangbaba:者 也不是簡單的事 04/22 01:33
dp44:哪來那麼簡單 讓他先發 就有很大的機會賠上一場比賽... 04/22 01:34
philluke:他上次就這樣啦...下一局呢..爆了... 04/22 01:34
philluke:這每局每局這樣練下去 他就真的變RP了... 04/22 01:35
Picoro:通常會賠上一場比賽 , 是因為大家以為他可以撐完幾局 04/22 01:35
owenwangbaba:我覺得信心是要慢慢累積的 或許現在一次太長局數 對 04/22 01:35
Picoro:所以牛棚也沒有辦法馬上在危機要發生時就遞補 04/22 01:35
philluke:他現在不是信心問題... 04/22 01:35
owenwangbaba:他是個負擔了 反正就讓教練團去苦心 不過到下次先發 04/22 01:36
Picoro:雖然對王很不好意思 , 但只好第一局投完就開始叫牛棚準備了 04/22 01:36
philluke:他自己不也說了... 就他的姿勢跟方法不能長時間保持 04/22 01:36
owenwangbaba:之前 不知道教練團會不會讓他上場 04/22 01:36
Picoro:在4分內的比賽 , 都可以讓王繼續撐才對 04/22 01:36
philluke:我覺得最好就是DL下3A去 要爆就爆到爽 04/22 01:37
Picoro:一到4分 , 就牛棚有辦法馬上上來 , 4分有機會追的 04/22 01:38
philluke:反正3A爆了也沒差 又不算戰績 04/22 01:38
owenwangbaba:阿不就說了沒辦法DL下去 04/22 01:38
Picoro:如果是假的DL下3A , 以現在的情況來說 , 連獨眼龍都知 04/22 01:39
Picoro:你希望他真的DL下去 , 我看今年他都不見得回得來 04/22 01:39
owenwangbaba:不知道用"害怕對付打者症候群"可不可以 04/22 01:40
jayin07:參考D-Train 04/22 01:42
birdy590:DL 下去的復健賽是有時間限制的, 不可能無限制的待下去 04/22 02:59
birdy590:所以 Picoro 是多慮了... 王的狀況多帶備胎還有機會調整 04/22 03:01
birdy590:但是野手的狀況也必須先穩定下來才行~ 名單才好控制 04/22 03:01
philluke:誰說不行= = 不就先例了嗎,,, 04/22 03:11
philluke:前面都有PO啊 爬一下文好唄 04/22 03:21
philluke:下篇文提到DL了 更新一下資訊吧 04/22 06:59
t8422022:怎樣算垃圾局數....領先八分也不敢讓他上場吧.... 04/22 15:20